Best rubber for close to the table attackers?

Hi, I am looking to try new rubbers an suggestions on good ones for close to the table play? 

Sonic or Supersonic?

oh who makes Sonic?

T25 FX 2.1mm. It behave like medium/hard sponge rubber when Loop/hit with low or medium power but soft feel (holds the ball) when you power loop.

i would go for something with harder sponge and fast. i feel that hard sponge works better close to the table and you will need speed for put away power. tenergy 05?

 Spectol 

Caution:
There are a lot of really questionable recommendations here for a US1100 player

(Spectol, Tenergy of any flavor, Hurricane II, Xiom Vega Asia, etc.)

I'm sure that there are some coaches who will disagree with me, but it's in their best interests that their students wind up requiring continuing coaching to keep the paychecks coming.

cotdt wrote: off topic but why are we always assuming that everyone here is a 1100 player? i personally know some good players who post on this forum.

Why not simple short pips?   Last night I saw an 70+ yr old Chinese c-pen with short pips player beat all comers and that included some 2000 level players. He played like He Zhi Wen with a little less speed. It was a treat to see some one play with such economy of motion and still move the opponents around so much that they couldn't make good shots most of the time.

Too many people think it is the equipment. I know it isn't. It is the skill of the person and last night was proof to me.

cotdt wrote: Why not short pips? Because they are harder to learn. It is general knowledge that it takes an average player 5 years to get good at inverted but 7 years to get good at short pips. Inverted is easier and can do most of the same things as short pips, but the opposite is not true.

Woooh!!!!   Learning to play with SP is easy. There is less spin involved. I think that learning to play with hard bat would be even easier.

I learned to play hard bat long ago. I like playing with my hard bat. I realize that I am at a disadvantage once my opponents are at a level where they can loop kill. I try to offset that advantage by not letting the opponent loop and blocking the loops that do happen.   I try to use placement like that Chinese master.

pnachtwey wrote: Woooh!!!!   Learning to play with SP is easy. There is less spin involved. I think that learning to play with hard bat would be even easier. I learned to play hard bat long ago. I like playing with my hard bat. I realize that I am at a disadvantage once my opponents are at a level where they can loop kill. I try to offset that advantage by not letting the opponent loop and blocking the loops that do happen.   I try to use placement like that Chinese master.

I tried playing with short pips but playing against choppers was a nightmare. I couldn't lift and smash their backspin like I can with inverted. There are techniques to what short pips players can do, but it would take a while to learn.

Taking the ball on the rise and flip-smashing shots takes some practice to be consistent in. It also takes a while to master the art of flip-smashing short spinny serves with short pips. Your timing with short pips needs to be better. Also you have to be fast with short pips, as you are standing closer to the table.


Edited by cotdt - 11/11/2011 at 11:31pm

cotdt wrote: off topic but why are we always assuming that everyone here is a 1100 player? i personally know some good players who post on this forum.

I make no such assumptions; I was referring to the OP based on his name, state and one year out of date USATT rating.

ddaw wrote: Hi, I am looking to try new rubbers an suggestions on good ones for close to the table play?

Why would a 1100 player use a Cermet on a TBS I would have thought that's someone well into the 2000s. I like Imagos close to the table setups except I haven't tried Apollo II yet, am I missing out?

Recommending hexer hd to a developing player is just mean.

oh, i see OP is a beginner. well, it's a strange question for a beginner. beginner should just learn the correct stokes and develop the feel for just getting the ball on the table.