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unagidon 
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what is ayous? what kind of performance can this wood provides? |
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The Shakehander
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Posted: 09/20/2009 at 9:53pm |
the wood of the obeche, apparently it's quite stiff |
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Shuangliao
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Posted: 09/20/2009 at 10:05pm |
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typhoon1
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Posted: 09/21/2009 at 3:57am |
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How about control and speed rate of these blades ?
Do you have any chart to compare the blade performance with other BTY ? |
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nicefrog
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Posted: 09/21/2009 at 12:12pm |
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Anyone see the amount of views on this thread?! really puts into perspective the huge amount of lurking Butterfly fans that are around the world
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LOOPMEISTER
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Posted: 09/21/2009 at 12:28pm |
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bbkon
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Posted: 09/21/2009 at 12:44pm |
the CPEN version is red
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nicefrog
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Posted: 09/21/2009 at 12:50pm |
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Are you suggesting this thread has been allowed through the great firewall ? :)
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Shuangliao
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Posted: 09/21/2009 at 7:34pm |
The following information is what I can get now, no further news.
A guy from Taiwan reviewed Innerforce ZLF(He got the test blade before Butterfly announced new product), by his word, this is a wonderful blade, more powerful and better than Boll ZLF, much much better than Timo Boll Spirit. Like the "Enforcing version of DHS Hurricane King", amazing looping and arc, it is hard to defence it, blocking/cutting/looping are all improved lot compare with old blades, even if Boll ZLC/ZLF/ALC.
Backhand is very goog blanced .
Old Aralate-Carbon blades use different center layer, lack of power, but this blade fixed all these knids of problem.
I checked butterfly Japanese web site, they haven't released the new chart yet, technicial index is not released yet.
I'm using Boll ZLF, I'll buy Innerforce ZLF and ZLC.
This is original review in Chinese, if you understand it, go to check it.
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typhoon1
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Posted: 09/21/2009 at 10:28pm |
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Thanks Shuanglia.
I have two questions to ask you. First: Why don't Innerforce series have ALC material ? BTY designers want to solve the problem as you wrote ,or new ALC version of Innerforce is Iolite Neo. Second: Have you got any information or review about Iolite Neo ? If you have, please tell me and cut it short to post a reply in English. (I have already goggled all new blade ,but what I found is in this forum and Chinese language forum. T-T) Thanks again. |
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doraemon
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Posted: 09/21/2009 at 10:59pm |
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I remember holding these blades months ago, before they are being introduced. A TT store nearby got samples of each type and they were on sale for like $140 (the owner got them for free but decided to sell at whatever he thought a good price). I bounce ball on them but can't remember the impression. They were gone in just few days after the sales announcement. I don't know if they are good or not. Too bad, I quit being an EJ and had no desire to purchase one back then.
I think with the vast collection of BTY, it is hard not to buy at least 2 - 3 blades. DAMN BTY !!!! |
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Shuangliao
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Posted: 09/22/2009 at 5:49am |
I have no idea about why BTY doesn't design a Aralate-Carbon blade in this series. I guess this is older technology, Zylon and Zylon-Carbon sounds like better than Aralate-Carbon, and it can be sold in higer price.
I didn't know they have these blade at beginning, I found they stated sale "Zhang Yining ZLC" in Chinese market, but that was limited version, too expensive..... Couple months ago, that Taiwan Guy post his review about the new Innerforce ZLF, I searched for long time, that is the only information I can get about this new blade.
I don't want spend 300 dollar for Zhang Yining ZLC(Now they have regular version in Chinese market, but still expensive), so I was keeping check any information about these blade.
I don't have any information about other 2 blades besides BTY Japan web site.
The review is written by a Taiwan guy, a sinor blade testing guy, a lot of people believe his review and his feeling. The original review was on a traditional Chinese website, it is called "Tang Qiao table tennis".
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Carryboy
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Posted: 09/22/2009 at 2:35pm |
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The ZLF what a beautiful blade, dammmmmmmn I want one!!!!!!
Will it be available worldwide in November or just specific countries (far east alone)????????
I have been trying to resist the temptations, but I have slowly come to the realization that I am a EJ or just a sucker when it comes to Butterfly Blades!! I need some help here people!!
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ThaiLe
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Posted: 09/22/2009 at 2:44pm |
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LOOPMEISTER
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Posted: 09/22/2009 at 5:25pm |
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The problem with the specs on these new blades is that they have the larger blade face, like the Korbel or original Zhang Yining. 158x152.
Most of BTY's other top blades like the Timo Boll series, Amultart, MJ, Maze, and TBS, etc, are 157x150. Once the rubbers are cut and stuck on, this small difference in blade size will make a big difference in weight. And it makes it more difficult to transfer your old rubbers to these blades. =( |
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t3h anarchist
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Posted: 09/22/2009 at 6:19pm |
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out for sale anywhere?/
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Shuangliao
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Posted: 09/22/2009 at 7:08pm |
We have to wait for 8 weeks, it's painful.........
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Shuangliao
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Posted: 09/22/2009 at 7:10pm |
We can cut rubber by this blade, after copule times glue-reglue, the rubber will be smaller, then we can use it on smaller blades (Such as TBS, Photino....).........
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Dominic123
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Posted: 09/22/2009 at 8:41pm |
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any new blades from butterfly under $100 these days?
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bozbrisvegas
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Posted: 09/23/2009 at 12:35am |
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omg ive lost touch - i usually know the latest blades - these are quite exciting at first, wonder if there is any substance behind them?
On the same note I predict there will be a Michael Maze new blade soon- the same as his old one but with different colours and every technology under his name.
need to get the speed weight readings thickness reading
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speedy
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Posted: 09/23/2009 at 10:11pm |
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Where can I buy these blades???
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Viscaria Super ALC ST JOOLA Rhyzen CMD(FH) Nittaku Moristo SP (BH) |
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qidsign
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Posted: 09/25/2009 at 2:59am |
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looks like Speedy is going to get some new collections..
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TBS ST 88gr
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speedy
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Posted: 09/26/2009 at 12:50am |
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I can tell that I want Iolite Neo and Innerforce ULC... depends their speed...
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mudr.nudl
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Posted: 10/28/2009 at 9:58am |
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i can tell you that innerforce zlc is really good blade... when it will be avaible i am thinking that i will buy it...
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bumpernets19
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Posted: 10/28/2009 at 12:14pm |
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hmm. These are all nice, but is there an english version of butterfly.co.jp? or did he just translate all of that for the prices? Because I would be interested in the iolite neo.
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Xiom Zetro Quad Hurricane 3 FH Hexer + BH |
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Shuangliao
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Posted: 10/28/2009 at 2:47pm |
There isn't a English Butterfly website except www.butterflyonline.com, they are a dealer.
アイオライト・ＮＥＯ(Iolite NEO)抜群の破壊力とスピードを継承 2009年11月21日発売 抜群の破壊力とスピードで長年にわたって好評を博した『アイオライト』の性能はそのままに、現代卓球に合わせてデザインと形状を一新。スピーディーでパワフルなプレーが可能です。 The following in English Inherit wonderful power and speed from IOLITE, which got many good reviews for many years, will be released on Nov.21, 2009, combines with modern table tennis design and new outlook. It is possible to play with both speed and power. Arylate-Carbon and 3 layers wood constructure, size 157mm x 150mm, thickness is 7.5mm, fast speed and soft touch.
Suggest retail price: 10500 Yen (Include tax)
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Timo Boll ZLF ST + Tenergy05/Tenergy64
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mizutani_jun
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Posted: 10/28/2009 at 7:00pm |
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the price for neo iolite at japan online shop is just like 8400yen.
same price as TBS,maze etc.
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Shuangliao
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Posted: 10/28/2009 at 7:54pm |
Yes! (Price/1.05)*80% is the price not include tax on some website, such as iruiru.com(There is a small icon(海外向けサイト) on the left top corner of their home page, click that, it will show you English version web pages)
In Japan, they have 2 sets of price almost for all products, one is called "Suggest retail price", another one is "Actual retail price".
Normally, "Actual retail price" is 80% of "Suggest retail price", sometimes maybe lower, depends on retail store.
On all manufactures' website, they show you "Suggest retail price" only.
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Timo Boll ZLF ST + Tenergy05/Tenergy64
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typhoon1
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Posted: 10/29/2009 at 12:56am |
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Which type of wood is on Iolite neo ?
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Posted: 10/29/2009 at 7:26am |
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