Pushblocker vs. Cho Yoon Je (KOR)

 

Good video for interested players to study - about long-pips vs. inverted rubber.  Keep it coming, for games you won AND YOU LOST.  Also videos of long-pips against other long-pips will be very interesting.

Pushblocker wrote: skip3119 wrote: Good video for interested players to study - about long-pips vs. inverted rubber.  Keep it coming, for games you won AND YOU LOST.  Also videos of long-pips against other long-pips will be very interesting. ==========================   Your advantage:  No need for you to remember your own earlier strokes.   Your opponent's disadvantage:  He (she) has to remember his (her) own earlier strokes, otherwise he (she) will lose the point.  (As top-spin comes back with back-spin, or back-spin comes back with top-spin.)   *** Certainly, you are very good in using long-pips, very few long-pips players can reach 2100, but you have reached 2200+. Too bad that I didn't record my matches against Robert Shahnazari and Duc Loi at the club as also William Lin.. While I did beat Robert 3:0 3:1 and 3:2 (in the 3 matches that we played), I did beat Duc Loi 3:0 last time that I played him.. However, I have not beaten William Lin yet.. He plays the PERFECT style against me.. long pips backhand block, short pip forehand attack and twiddling short pips backhand attack.. You never know what he is going to do.... William (roundrobin) destroys most other long pips blockers.. Neither me nor Robert Shahnazari have ever beaten him and he is lower rated than both of us.. I'm actually uploading a match that I lost right now.. It's against Cory Eider(2311) and I lost the match in 5 games after leading 2:0.. Started cramping in game 3

cramping from lack of movement? i hate that ='[

Fruit loop wrote: cramping from lack of movement? i hate that ='[

that guy has one of the poorest attitudes I've ever seen at the table. i'm sure you've seen much worse though lol

beeray1 wrote: that guy has one of the poorest attitudes I've ever seen at the table. i'm sure you've seen much worse though lol   where's game 5?

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Pushblocker, it takes a lot of skill to cover all the table with your BH only. Many ppl on this forum seem to only take note of big and fast FH/BH shots, but fail to realise that pushing, blocking and counterhits are the true fundamentals of the game. I won quite a lot of games at a recent tournament, just with a heavy FH and BH push, blocking/countering and some consistent slow loops. It's a similar control style like yours, except I'm using double inverted....

Just wondering, have you met a quality server who serves fast and deep with massive variation of spin? I have quite some trouble with those players. They really punish those who do not attack their serves. There is one i faced who can serve to the nastiest angles (some balls exiting the sides of the table,coupled with some down the line serves) with speed, then loops a heavy sidespin loop to the other end. I absolutely hate playing those players, because I can no longer play my control game against those! If you have, do you have any tips for answering those tactics?

How about playing a low-fast dead ball to either center or extreme end of both court during service? Fast low dead ball, if the receiver is not careful, the return will be high and can setup for a smash. It is useless against attacking opponent that either counter-loop or smash. But since I notice you don't/hardly attack/smash so I wonder if it will be effective?

Edited by TT_haru - 12/25/2010 at 12:07pm

Yap, sort of like safe, defensive play, looking for opening. I guess majority of attacking players failed since their style urge them to finish things fast (3rd ball attack, etc). Their spin, loop doesnt work and that cause frustration and when frustrated, that's it ...

TT_haru wrote: Yap, sort of like safe, defensive play, looking for opening. I guess majority of attacking players failed since their style urge them to finish things fast (3rd ball attack, etc). Their spin, loop doesnt work and that cause frustration and when frustrated, that's it ...   Ask someone who always attack, to play safe? Only a few of them can do it. And even if one can do it, it is all about ball placement and unless I can place the ball better than u, it is in for a tough fight. That's y your style is effective against the majority or rather long pip style. While others are crazy practising on looping & spinning, you r trained in push/block and placement of ball ...

Pushblocker,

If you don't mind, going back to the video of you playing with Schlager...

Now I know you guys are just hitting around and Werner isn't doing much at all, but even then, it looks like you're playing out of your normal comfort zone---completely misreading the spin on one serve, out of position trying to return several loops, and forced to back off from the table.

What were Werner's shots like, as casually as he executed them? Was it difficult to read the spin and direction even then? Were the loops just too fast?

Would you say that all of your opponents at tournaments cannot even hit like Werner does so casually in the video? If so that really puts things into perspective. The pros have more skill in one finger than 2000+ players have in their entire hand.

Thanks.

Oh yeah, Merry Christmas!



Edited by racquetsforsale - 12/25/2010 at 2:00pm

Pushblocker wrote: My cramps however bothered me.. Even though, I'm not moving a lot, I still have to move around a little bit..

Pushblocker wrote: jt99sf wrote: Pushblocker wrote: My cramps however bothered me.. Even though, I'm not moving a lot, I still have to move around a little bit..   What is the proper protocol on cramps/injury? I was playing in the Semi's at the Nationals and my opponent had leg cramps, what is the amount of time can be taken? Call a timeout? and if he already have used his timeout before the cramp/injury?  I really need to know this for the 'next' time.   thanks. I don't know what the protocol is but cramps aren't going to go away quickly... I was dehydrated.. I didn't take a injury timeout as it would have taken too long.. I thought that I still could take him, even with the cramps but I was wrong.. My leg actually still hurt on the next day but I wasn't cramping anymore..

Pushblocker,
Thanks for uploading the videos. No offense, after watched some of them, I think the method to beat you is: (1) must release and stay cool, DO NOT get mad. (2) play ping pong (hit / push) for a easy / assure ball placement (3) use slow-lift-high loop, only use topspin power loop when you are out of position. Or try to push you away from the table.
On the other hand, you seem to have trouble with long serve, do you? Do you consider to switch the blade-side and loop/drive on backhand making a surprise attack once in a while?



Edited by Egghead - 12/27/2010 at 1:49pm

Pushblocker wrote: That's a good strategy! However, most players can't execute it. If you watch my video against Adam Brown (just look through my videos). He is a high 2100 level player  and he played exactly the right strategy and I still beat him.. Against Cory Eider, I was ahead 9:7 in game 5 an he played a good strategy etc. etc.. I'm used to playing players who know what do do against my game.. Even if they do the right things, they still have to fight for every point.. The difference is that they don't give me easy points if they play patient.. I do occasionally attack from the backhand by twiddling, depends a lot on the opponent.. If I can win without attacking, I won't do it. If you look through my videos, you'll see that I do attack occasionally.. Long serves bother me if they are done occasionally.. If they are done frequently, I easily adjust to them..