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chroot
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I am still waiting...
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angelleye
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If the payment was funded using your credit card you can call your credit card company and file a dispute there instead of disputing through PayPal.
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bns7117
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I got my refund back from buy&sell as he promised, he followed through with his words. You did the right thing, buy&sell, i am glad that you chose the right path to follow.
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tuco
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You can certainly try. Most credit card companies allow you to dispute your transactions up to 90 days (as opposed to 45 days by Paypal). the problem is when you sent money, you are admitting you are sending him money as a gift rather than goods purchased. If you have saved the PMs or emails you have communicated with him, that may help.
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angelleye
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Actually, I've seen people submit chargebacks over a year after their purchase and still get their money back. Unfortunately, it's common to see fraud with that sort of thing, too, but when used morally it's a handy thing to know about.
CC companies want to protect their consumers. When the chargeback is submitted you can specify that you never received the item, and unless the seller can provide tracking information that proves the item was delivered then you'll get your money back. Marking it as a gift on PayPal is just a PayPal thing. PayPal could potentially try to argue on behalf of the seller that the payer marked it as a gift, but just take a quick look at paypalsucks.com and you'll find plenty of stories about sellers who are pissed off because PayPal couldn't help them in such a scenario. |
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chroot
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I also got my refund back from Buys&sellsblades.
Thank everyone who helped resolve this issue. Edited by chroot - 08/08/2014 at 11:02am |
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Baal
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Many thanks to Theologian. Hopefully this is the end of this particular episode.
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chroot
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Edited by chroot - 08/08/2014 at 11:02am |
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the_theologian
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Cameron (buy&sellblades) has followed through with refunding everyone. His account was frozen before being able to refund bns7117 and chroot so I allowed him to give me cash and I refunded them on his behalf through my paypal account. I do hope that no one will be tempted to scam Cameron in some way. Let's simply forgive and move on. If you had any paypal interaction with Cameron, please check your paypal account to ensure you were only refunded the appropriate amount. A midst his rush to refund people and various paypal disputes, things got pretty convoluted. |
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limjo
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I will update and post here when I actually receive the blade or receive a refund from Cameron (Buy&SellBlades).
Edited by limjo - 08/08/2014 at 9:55pm |
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My feedback link:
http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=65760&title=limjo-buy-sell-trade-feedback |
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the_theologian
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Limjo,
I'll look into this |
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Baal
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Along with others.
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limjo
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Hi guys, just want to let you know that Cameron (buy&sellblades) has refunded my money this morning at 9:24 AM sent by his girlfriend as his account is locked by Paypal due to complaints against him. This serves as a lesson to all not to rush/throw our guards down on enticing/sweet deals if the other party does not have enough feedback and refrain from using Paypal as Gift as payment. Once again my great appreciation and thanks to "the Theologian" on this assistance in getting the refund.
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My feedback link:
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Baal
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Theologian is the one who is responsible for getting everyone their refunds. Thanks again!
Based on what we know, this affair my finally be finished. |
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vishal_dindoyal
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I still haven't received anything...
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the_theologian
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Haven't forgot about you. Still working on it. |
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Baal
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I spoke too soon.
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Antuan
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How is the_theologian getting the money for everyone?
Edited by Antuan - 08/13/2014 at 6:33pm |
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Baal
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At this point Cameron has been banned from Paypal, banned from here, and so it is difficult logistically. Theologian knows him, and is acting as a conduit so that people can get paid, and he is keeping the pressure on Cameron to pay up.
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Baal
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People need to be very careful making deals with people who have no history on this forum. Seriously.
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Antuan
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I have not received the money from this guy too. I returned the receipt from my bank but my balance in paypal is negative.
I will send an email to this guy..
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the_theologian
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If your bank already refunded the money, doesn't that cover it?
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Antuan
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My bank returned the receipt to Paypal, but Paypal has charged to me that money, so i have -150$ in my paypal account. This guy must refund my 150$. |
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the_theologian
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Perhaps I am still misunderstanding. The bank refunded your money, presumably to your bank account instead of to your paypal account. So essentially, your bank account went +150 while your paypal went -150. |
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Antuan
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No, my bank account is OK . My paypal account is -150$. This is what Paypal tells me: Estimado Antonio Varela Izquierdo: Gracias por ponerse en contacto con nosotros en referencia a un pago personal de 150.00USD. Dado que PayPal no cubrimos los pagos personales, le recomiendo que se ponga en contacto con [email protected] para que le realice una devolución de los fondos, ya que el vendedor tiene todavía este pago que usted le envió. Ha sido un placer atender su consulta y le deseo un feliz día. Si necesita más información, recuerde que también puede entrar en su cuenta PayPal y consultar el apartado de Ayuda rápida del vínculo Contactar, a pie de página. Edited by Antuan - 08/25/2014 at 6:33am |
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MAkira
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so the bank gave you your money? and then you are want more money? please explain this better because this isn't sound right.
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E.ZegnaFan
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My understand is paypal used other sources of Anhtuan money registered with paypal as a back up if a main money source wasn't available in this case is his bank account. So if he doesn't registered another card/bank account then he got a negative balance in his paypal's account.
That mean he doesn't get his money back yet, simply the money just goes around within his paypal account |
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MAkira
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make a new paypal, then there will be no minus balance hehe. and you will have the money you recieved from bank
Edited by MAkira - 08/25/2014 at 9:45am |
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Antuan
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Exact! I have lost 150$ until Cameron refund my money. I sold a blade 3 dats ago and paypal used that money to balance my account 😡. I still am waiting for my 150$. And Cameron tells me that he can't show me a pic were i can see my refunded money because he has his account blocked.... It sounds rare. He says he has -550$, and show me a pic were i saw it but if it is true i don't mind, paypal says that Cameron has my 150$ and i want them back. |
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Antuan
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Too late. Paypal took 150$ from a deal which i made 3 days ago 😡. |
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