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    Posted: 02/22/2024 at 9:01am
I can firmly recommend Sieger PK50.

K3 was, to this point, the most amazing hybrid I had played with, offering short game and service of chinese rubbers, with easier looping and good pace and power - it was perfect if I was going to loop every ball with a fairly closed racket angle.

However, when it came time to flat hit easy shots with an open face, I found it erratic and unpredictable.

Sieger PK50 is slightly slower, but more forgiving on racquet angles. Loops and drives are similar in arc; maybe a little higher trajectory. But it flat hits much more predictably, and blocking has better pace. 

And Similar to K3, if someone attacks your elbow you can still counter, rather than passively block.


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It might be older and slower, but I am currently using Rakza Z.
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Originally posted by icontek icontek wrote:

I can firmly recommend Sieger PK50.

K3 was, to this point, the most amazing hybrid I had played with, offering short game and service of chinese rubbers, with easier looping and good pace and power - it was perfect if I was going to loop every ball with a fairly closed racket angle.

However, when it came time to flat hit easy shots with an open face, I found it erratic and unpredictable.

Sieger PK50 is slightly slower, but more forgiving on racquet angles. Loops and drives are similar in arc; maybe a little higher trajectory. But it flat hits much more predictably, and blocking has better pace. 

And Similar to K3, if someone attacks your elbow you can still counter, rather than passively block.


How long have you been using it? A common criticism of K3 is that it has poor durability lasting only 1-2 months. Is PK50 more durable?
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Is it a problem of hybrid rubbers more generally that they have poor durability? I really like the Rakza Z when new, but was disappointed by the durability. It's performance dropped of quite a bit with only about 30 hours of play on it. Other rubbers that I've played with - non-tacky ESN rubbers such as Rakza 7, Acuda, EL-S etc - I usually change after about 50-60 hours of play. 
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Its my take all Nitakku rubbers last longer than average. 
Especially longer than K3. 
It makes me very interested in this posters experience as its a much cheaper rubber he recommends and it last longer. 
I wonder how it would play boosted? 
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Originally posted by JoshD JoshD wrote:

Its my take all Nitakku rubbers last longer than average. 
Especially longer than K3. 
It makes me very interested in this posters experience as its a much cheaper rubber he recommends and it last longer. 
I wonder how it would play boosted? 


I ended up getting a sheet, red 2.0. It reminds me more of Dragon Grip. Out of the package, the spin feels similar to Dragon Grip. PK50 is faster than Dragon Grip but slower than K3. PK50 has a pretty high throw angle. The topsheet and spin is very durable but after a month the booster on the sponge feels like it's wearing out. But overall, PK50 seems more durable than both Dragon Grip and K3.

The bad news is that it seems like this rubber is being discontinued but I am not too worried about it as I will most likely just be using this until the full releases of Xiom Vega Hybrid and Omega 8 Hybrid rubbers.
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I didnt know they will come out with hybrids in the Vega and Omega lines. 
Sounds interesting. 
If PK50 gets discontinued I dont want to end up liking it ;)
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