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FireAndForget
Member Joined: 12/28/2008 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4 |
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Posted: 12/28/2008 at 11:27pm |
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Hi,
I am a recreational user. I have read some rules found on the Internet but there are some scenarios I am not sure how to interpret. Can you please help me to clarify a few questions? Q1. Hit finger: The ball was correct (either service or return) but the ball hit partially the finger. Is it legal? Q2. Service, single player. The service is correct but after bouncing on the opponent court, the ball doesn�t have enough energy to leave the table, if not touched, the ball can still bounce a 3rd or even 4th time on the opponent court. In other words, is there any obligation to make a strong service so that the ball must contact the table only twice, once on the server court and once on the opponent court? Q3. Service, single player. The service is correct. But the trajectory is a diagonal with a high angle. If not touched, after the ball contacts the opponent court, the ball will bounce off the table on the side. Is it legal? Q4. Missed return, hit opponent. The return missed the table and hit the opponent. Who won the point? Q5. Missed return, hit oppenent's bat. The return missed the table and hit the oppenent's bat (or the opponent hit the ball with the bat even though if the ball didn't bounce on the table). Who won the point? Q6. Etiquette: what is the typical ping pong etiquette? Here is a scenario that I find quite puzzling. In some impressive videos, one player keeps striking the ball with a lot of power and the other player stays far away from the table and returning the ball high and slow. Instead of tiring himself by striking all the time, why didn't the attacker just drop the ball close to the net and the other player would not have enough time to come to catch the ball. Is it because it is not possible technically or because it is not nice? Thanks in advance for any help. EDIT: Sorry for the font and weird color & underline effects. I have no idea why the text appears like that. Moderators: if there is any way to remove these random fancy effects, please go ahead or please show me how to do it. Thanks. |
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kenneyy88
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1. It is legal to hit any part of the hand with the racket in it. As long as it doesn't double bounce anything, like rubber and hand.
2. You can bounce as many times as you want on your opponent's side. It is higher level play to have it bounce twice on their side and low. 3. This is a legal serve and an ace, if by side you mean the top side edge. 4. If you hit the opponent and he is leaning over the table, then it is your point. If the ball goes outside the area of the table, then it is their point, regardless if it hits them. 5. don't understand the question. If he hits the ball and it is off the table, it is still his point. 6. It is hard to drop a high and deep lob with topspin. There is a possibility that their drop shot will be too high. And the opponent will run in for a easy ball to kill. It is easier to just keep on smashing and try to win the point. If they drop shot, they are inviting them back into the table and taking away their advantage. Of course there are some pros with good dropshots like Ma lin, or decent like ma long. They drop the ball short and then hit back deep and move their opponents back and forth and left and right. I've seen some pros like Hao shuai or chen qi try to drop shot and there is too much topspin in the lob to stop the ball and it bounces off the table. |
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johnny89atc
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5. If your opponent hits the ball before it reaches the table(but it would have hit the table if your opponent hadn't strike it), then it's your point. But if the ball has gone off the table without touching it, then it is your opponent's point even if he hits it as kenneyy88 said...
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FireAndForget
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Thank you for your expert (and quick) answers.
Sorry my question was not clear. Let's imagine I am the server. I see the opponent court as a rectangle with 3 edges: left, middle and right. I make a service where the ball goes in diagonal. It bounces once on my court, once on the opponent court and exit the opponent court on the right edge while he was expecting the ball to go out by the middle edge. Is it a legal service, and in case it is, is it considered "not nice"?
I smashed the ball and totally missed it. The ball goes completely out of the opponent court and hit directly the opponent bat. Does that count as my point (which means the opponent had played and missed the point, whether he hit the ball intentionally or not). Or the opponent won the point (which means, I have missed the court and the opponent didn't play the ball intentionally). The scenario is more complicate when the ball just missed the opponent court by a few centimeters. By reflex, the opponent strikes the ball back and missed the point. FOr the sake of argument, let assume that the bass was about 10 centimer above the table. close to the end edge of the opponent court. By not letting the ball drop on the ground, the opponent made the job a little bit difficult to judge the fault. I just want to know how such a situation is judged by official rules. |
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kenneyy88
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3. It is a good serve, you can break the sidelines.
5. You smashed and hit the ball out. So you lose the point once it passes the table, regardless if the opponent hits it. If the opponent hits the ball out of reflex before it passes the end line of the table, then it is your point. It can only be your point if you hit the other side of the table or the opponent hits the ball while it is still over the table. Dropping on the floor, it doesn't matter. We only care if it passes over the end line. |
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FireAndForget
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Thanks Kenney for your help. I think I get it now.
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