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Originally posted by PointEngineer PointEngineer wrote:

Originally posted by pingpongpaul pingpongpaul wrote:

Youll just have to get and the weights and get massive lad. But you are right new plastic balls allows a rubber to produce less spin/.....


I seems to me that usually the poly balls do not get less spin off the rubber, but do in general result in a lot less spin by the time the receiver has to deal with it. In general they seem to have a higher friction than celluloid, but most rubbers during most types of shot grip all of them enough that the initial spin is similar. It feels to me like perhaps the bounce on the table and the air resistance contribute to this final spin difference.  While I know that people often don't like slidy table surfaces, it could be that a tiny adjustment to the table surface might rectify this poly ball spin issue.  I know that the higher hardness of all poly balls is also likely to be a factor in this, and I wonder why they are so pressurised (NP balls when they crack become quite soft so).

I have not tried the G40+ balls yet but have used XSF, Nittaku Premium, and Nittaku SHA which I find have reducing grip in that order with the SHA one not so dissimilar in grip to celluloid (though having such an inconsistent bounce).  The XSF in particular seem to be very grippy.


Instead of affecting the table, why not add a little residue to the ball to make it easier to spin and give a more consistent bounce ?
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Because residue will be gone after a few minutes unless you are suggesting a ball which is kind of decomposing throughout its life.  You kind of the get that effect when playing with someone using a sand paper bat (as it wears the ball, and leaves some sand/dust on the ball).  For me it just adds another point of inconsistency to the already inconsistent game (eg the humidity and hand-sweat effects on the ball grip are already a big enough problem).
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Originally posted by PointEngineer PointEngineer wrote:

Because residue will be gone after a few minutes unless you are suggesting a ball which is kind of decomposing throughout its life.  You kind of the get that effect when playing with someone using a sand paper bat (as it wears the ball, and leaves some sand/dust on the ball).  For me it just adds another point of inconsistency to the already inconsistent game (eg the humidity and hand-sweat effects on the ball grip are already a big enough problem).


Sorry, correction, instead of residue. I meant resin.
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