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real- kreanga
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yes I think kreanga has the best backhand in the world, wang might be #1 , but he can t do same shot as kreanga does and kreanga has been playing for only 15 years.....
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ha ha ! too bad kreanga does not use kreanga carbon you bought the wrong blade.
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I don t think that Kreanga could do that weird sidespin (big curl) with a stiff blade like kreanga ucl.and I can T belive it s a primorac carbon with kreanga grip. It should be an all-wood flexible blade |
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eerrr, adambty, i talked to him at the team worlds in bremen...
he signed my kreanga aeros and said, that he doesn t play it anymore, because of too low weight. so he plays kreanga carbon.....he showed me :D
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where is the video of him ?
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can we see the blade w. signature pleeeeease...
Are u gonna put it on ebay??? let me now if you do. |
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know one can say who has the best for sure. We all have differnt defintions. Kreaga might have the most powerful, but its certaintly bad off the bounce and he makes lots of mistakes when he doesnt get a pop up. By my definition, I would say Chiang Peng-lung, pearson, wang hao (5 years ago), who ever was teh first to chop on the bh side. |
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Sabito
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yes, you can say so, according to the best coaches in the world, including world s #1 Ferenc Karsai the order is this for shakehand players: Most complete bh: wan liqin Most efective, long distance defensive, powerful, mastered Bh: Kalinikos Kreanga Best bh loop kill: Werner Schlager Best of-the-bounce bh: Alexei Smirnov (to chinese coaches Chuan s faster) Technically perfect bh, including footwork : Kong Linghui so you could deduce why people gets so amazed with kreanga.
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Schlager
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I have seen a video (cant remember which) and I am absolute sure he used the Kreanga Carbon in that match!
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I love watching him, Kreanga has amazing rallies whenhe is warm, but his mental is what truly holds him back from winning major championships. I also think Kong is one of the best players ever. He is so fast and crisp with his style.... everything is so tight and perfect it is amazing.. Just wish he was a little younger these days. |
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Very good synopsis. I personally would go with chuan on quickest off the bounce. I think smirnov s is prettiest. Kudo s to primorac for developing the modern bh, and also I like watching the flowing fluttering backhand of persson. |
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Hey guys, ur missing one player who has a good backhand-----Alexander Karakasevic!!! For me, his backhand is very powerful!
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Sabito Qouted a lot, so I wont do it
Very fun reading, do you have any announcment for the FH as well? Or maybe the serve? Quite interesting to know what thoose with a trained eye thinks! |
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Yeah its great>
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Also, we must not forget TIMO BOLL. He has great technique in his backhand topspin loop. Many times he has shown this FAR from the table, and still won the point. |
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aron care about those other players and u people........ |
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Sabito
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Ya... Technically perfect, best placement, most mastered, most body-balanced Fh: Wang Liqin. (well you can actually deduce it, even the killerspin guys talk about it) I d add Best fh ever... Best Fh-Bh against defensive players Kkreanga, Kostopoulus says that hes the only player who attacks with bh along with schlager spin-loaded backspin shots. Most consistent FH in general Timo Boll, but its been said he has a big weakness when playing against players who make fh stroke fordwards like chinese players, in an interview he said he had to train exclusively on that in order to be able to counter wang liqin s fh topspins in the last world cup. and the best penhold fh ryu seung min well thats all I ve heard about fh... The best server in the world: werner schlager, he has 13 different serves all loaded with heavy spin, just check his training video to look some of his.. European players have the worst foot-work. And I agree with it, at least danish players look unconfortable.
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paracite
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what about penhold backhand? Jpen or Cpen whichever. Which one of them have master penhold backhand. Not rpb.
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Sabito wrote: European players have the worst foot-work. And I agree with it, at least danish players look unconfortable. Yes, I totally agree, but doesnt all Danish people look unconfortable whne they move around Thanks for the info on FH. On the serve I have always believed that Waldner was the greatest, but I might be subjectiv in that matter. |
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paracite
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Liu Guoliang serves pretty well. At the end of his serves he makes a follow-through sometimes to trick what kind of serve he has.
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yes, its been said waldner had good serves but he doesnt seem very effective with the new ball. ha.... and I wonder whats the matter betwen swedish and danish people? could you explain me, please? |
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Yeah I don t understand this either.
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Sabito wrote:
and I wonder whats the matter betwen swedish and danish people? could you explain me, please? Just a little friendly neighbour competition. In little Scandinavia Sweden allways try to act like a big brother to Denmark, Finland and norway. Thats why we allways take every opportunity to pick on each other Now days its fun to be swedish again, but it was really hard a couple of years ago. Norway beat as a winterolympics, Finland beat us in hockey and the Danish people where laughing at our defeats. All ofcourse wiht the right sense of humour. |
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best penhold bh non rpb would be ryu. watch his match against wlq in the china super league. he loses, but his bh is really great. yeah im in finland for now, and they have rivalry with sweden, haha!
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a year ago....i try to copy kreanga backhand
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i wiil say kim taek soo |
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I agree with goldberg, but Ryu has a pretty good backhand too, since Kim Taek Soo is his coach(still is?)!
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I think waldners service still is very good, just watch the match against Timo Boll in athens. He had big problems with the return of waldners service. But Ok, it was better before. \R |
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what?? best penhold fh Ryu Seung Min?? All you have to do is watch Ma Lin to see that nobody using penhold grip can control the ball like he can.... period. I would say for whatever reason you choose Ryu for best, Ma Lin can do the very same thing, and probably better. After all, he is the world s HIGHEST ranked Penholder, with Wang Hao right behind. Plus, Ma Lin actually beats Wang Liqin, something that Ryu is trying very hard to accomplish. I respect all opinions, but this just doesn t seem right at all... All you have to do is watch the matches and training to see this. |
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wang beats ma 9 out of 10 and ma has a great 3-ball attack, but if you return that on him...
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