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    Posted: 09/25/2008 at 12:33pm
Finally I make my video. It is from Serbian national high school final 2007. I was 5 in men singles, and 3rd in men team. This video shows my first set of quarter finals in singles when I lose from Radonjic Vladimir who is in national junior team 3:2. Second match is battle for 3rd place in men team where my high school team won 2:0. I crushed my opponent who is nothing special. But he plays with Butterfly super anti, and he looks funny, but you wouldnt believe me when I say you guys that this guy with his funny TT style beat some very good junior players in Serbia. Please post your comments.
 
 
PS: My game is for about 30% better now than in this video. I updated my serves and BH loop alot, and I little cut my FH loop move because it was so long (Simply telled I work that every my TT movement look like Mizutani TT movement). Now I am in Top80 in Serbia for seniors. But I will work harder to reach Top24. Soon (in begining of November) I will play 2 qualification tournaments for top24 in Serbia.
 
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Thanks MOL!!!I wanted to see you play...
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Bump!!!
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There is no need to "bump" the topic....it will get plenty of traffic.
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Originally posted by Master_of_loops Master_of_loops wrote:

Bump!!!

LOL made my day,
BTW, nice video.


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Ah Ha. MOL you can brag about yourself now (But don't brag too much LOL). Nice video Clap
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What is the problem with the kid in the second part? I hate players like that who don't wait before serving. That's my biggest peeve while playing.

Your forehand loops look good, though it seems like you take longer windup than needed before each shot. Also the rest of your game needs to catch up with your looping. Try adding some short serves and vary their location.
Hmm, I didn't mean to criticize your game, I just can't help giving tips to other players about improving their game.  Your game is pretty good as it is.
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Originally posted by praywin praywin wrote:

What is the problem with the kid in the second part? I hate players like that who don't wait before serving. That's my biggest peeve while playing.

Seriously. I think the second kid would probably be considered a good basement player; no form, no serve, and gives up on points he thinks he has lost.
The first match was very good though. good job MOL.
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Not bad, but you can't be 30% better if you have been  playing with guys like the second in your video .Smile
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MOL finally posts his video...

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 MOL, you are a good player  but I thought that the juniors level of play in Serbia is higher.. The boy in the second video didn't impress me much.
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Wait guys!!!!!!!! How do we know its him?:D:D:D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_Rtenkmt6M

Self-made video please watch and comment
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Quite nerdy looking. Nice game nontheless!!!

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I'll take old age and treachery over youth and inexperience any day!

...and what Ciprian said

No seriously though, your enthusiasm is enviable.
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Well well finally he did his best and post a real guy who play TT. But still we dont know for sure its really MOL yet. His opponent cant even take his first serve and the serbia junior play with pants? well the tournement must be kind of school level or something.
 
MOL I cant see anything that show us ur style like JM.
I have seen u comment about others who post their VID here and u said they suck. but what I can see ur not better urself, if its really u in THE MOL VID.
 
now.... funny VID.
 
 
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Going  by a few past pictures MOL has posted as well as a video..Unless he is stalking this one player I'd say that it is truely him.

Congratz on posting a video finally
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Didn't look like there was much of a backhand there and the forearm was good when you were able to connect against a lower level player but the guy in the yellow shirt in the first match was a little more quick and seemed to handle the "PMOL" (pseudo master of loops).  The lack of overall footwork and speed and the large stroke is not good for the game. When this person did connect it looked alright though. 
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Thanks guys! Second player plays with Butterfly super anti, and he looks funny, but you wouldnt believe me when I say you guys that this guy with his funny TT style beat some very good junior players in Serbia. You think right when you said that this was school championsip. You can see this in my first post of this topic. You are also right that my movement for FH loop is too long, and need very much speed in my footwork (words of my personal coach - my father), so I little cut my FH loop move because it was so long. I also imrove my game from video time. I also updated my serves (variations of short, long, underspin, .. and BH loop alot. Simply telled I work that every my TT movement look like Mizutani TT movement (this is hard task for me because I am 187cm tall, so my main problem is footwork because of my height and my long legs). 
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Don't blame the height for poor footwork, that can be a factor but can be easily corrected.  Do speed drills and footwork drills and you'll get over that in no time.  Look at how tall persson, oh, samsonov, liqin are and look at how fast they are.  I am 186 cm tall and i can move pretty fast for my height.  I'll get a video up here one of these days, i just need to bring that camera with and make one, i will do it.  But it looks like a lot of good parts of your game are there, they just need work to be put more together in a complete form.  And Mizutani plays a counter type style, i can see some resemblance in that but the overall motions you make don't resemble him much at all.
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Originally posted by Ciprian Ciprian wrote:

Not bad, but you can't be 30% better if you have been  playing with guys like the second in your video .Smile
 
From that tournament you saw (last year) I 70%only play with 30% better guys than first guy is. I will ask my club friend to record my training on Sunday, because I want to see you guys that I improve my game, and that I copy alot of moves from Mizutani. But this is last chance for recording on Sunday, because I in Thursday move to Belgrade (Serbia capital city) where I will live for 5 years. Also I am happy because of this, because my TT game will improve alot in Belgrade. I will train TT in Red Star, and playing for my old local club STK Krusevac on weekend. I cant wait to chalenge Wiliam Henzel who is playing for Red Star. I know that he is alot better than me, but my game will improve alot if I train and play with such big TT star.
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Originally posted by bull_harrier bull_harrier wrote:

Don't blame the height for poor footwork, that can be a factor but can be easily corrected.  Do speed drills and footwork drills and you'll get over that in no time.  Look at how tall persson, oh, samsonov, liqin are and look at how fast they are.  I am 186 cm tall and i can move pretty fast for my height.  I'll get a video up here one of these days, i just need to bring that camera with and make one, i will do it.  But it looks like a lot of good parts of your game are there, they just need work to be put more together in a complete form.  And Mizutani plays a counter type style, i can see some resemblance in that but the overall motions you make don't resemble him much at all.
 
I know I cant 100% to copy Mizutani, but I work and I will work alot to copy shots of him most I can.
 
 
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I have the same problem I am about 190cm and although I have developed a big Wang Liqin like forehand it's not much good with out the foot work
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No offense but that is definitely not 2200-2300
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Originally posted by Master_of_loops Master_of_loops wrote:

Originally posted by Ciprian Ciprian wrote:

Not bad, but you can't be 30% better if you have been  playing with guys like the second in your video .Smile
 
From that tournament you saw (last year) I 70%only play with 30% better guys than first guy is. I will ask my club friend to record my training on Sunday, because I want to see you guys that I improve my game, and that I copy alot of moves from Mizutani. But this is last chance for recording on Sunday, because I in Thursday move to Belgrade (Serbia capital city) where I will live for 5 years. Also I am happy because of this, because my TT game will improve alot in Belgrade. I will train TT in Red Star, and playing for my old local club STK Krusevac on weekend. I cant wait to chalenge Wiliam Henzel who is playing for Red Star. I know that he is alot better than me, but my game will improve alot if I train and play with such big TT star.
 
are u sure MOL that William Henzell play for the Redstar?
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Originally posted by cmetsbeltran15 cmetsbeltran15 wrote:

No offense but that is definitely not 2200-2300
 
I know that, but this video is from last year, and I now play better for about 30%. I think that I am now about 2300 US rankings.
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Honestly if you are 30% better than that i still wouldn't put you at that high of a USATT rating
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Not to mention that your math is wrong
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Originally posted by Superserv Superserv wrote:

Originally posted by Master_of_loops Master_of_loops wrote:

Originally posted by Ciprian Ciprian wrote:

Not bad, but you can't be 30% better if you have been  playing with guys like the second in your video .Smile
 
From that tournament you saw (last year) I 70%only play with 30% better guys than first guy is. I will ask my club friend to record my training on Sunday, because I want to see you guys that I improve my game, and that I copy alot of moves from Mizutani. But this is last chance for recording on Sunday, because I in Thursday move to Belgrade (Serbia capital city) where I will live for 5 years. Also I am happy because of this, because my TT game will improve alot in Belgrade. I will train TT in Red Star, and playing for my old local club STK Krusevac on weekend. I cant wait to chalenge Wiliam Henzel who is playing for Red Star. I know that he is alot better than me, but my game will improve alot if I train and play with such big TT star.
 
are u sure MOL that William Henzell play for the Redstar?
 
President of red star told me that William will play for red star, because he wants this. He wants that Red star pay him airplane thickets, and give him money for pro tours around Serbia. Red star agree with his wishes, so I think they sign a contract.
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Originally posted by bull_harrier bull_harrier wrote:

Honestly if you are 30% better than that i still wouldn't put you at that high of a USATT rating
 
Everybody has rights for his own oppinion. Dont forget that this is video, and videos make players skill alot worser then they are really are.
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