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skatz
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Posted: 08/21/2007 at 2:11pm |
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Hi Everyone,
My son is 13. We both started playing in 2003. He is rated 1460 and I believe with a little work he could easily be 1700. Lately, he says he is kind of over table tennis. Says he finds it boring. Loves his Nintendo DS and Nintendo Wii and his PC.
I really would hate to see him give it up. On the other hand I am a fanatic. I play 4 - 6 days a week. We have a table in the basement and a Newgy 2040 robot. I can't get enough.
Does anyone have any suggestions how to motivate him? He still likes to play tournaments but he hates to train. Is this just a stage he is going through? It's been so long since I was 13 I can't remember! (I'm 52).
Any help or encouragement will be appreciated!
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Gaute
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Is he in good shape? OR is he owerweight? I am 14 years old for my self. So i think I might can help you with this...
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tiehwen
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well..that sounds so very familiar..But don't FORCE him too much, as ur wish is not his command n he's a teen now. We've bn there so we know..I'm keeping my eyes on this post as I need help too.
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skatz
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He is not overweight at all! We just started going to the gym together!
Any help would be appreciated!
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skatz
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Thanks! Lets stick together! I agree not to force him too much.
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tommyzai
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Are there any cute girls at the club you play at? At some point in the near future those little hotties will be more attractive to him than ANY video game. Don't pressure him or he will rebel and quit.
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tiehwen
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Mine 1 plays bcuz I wanna get him off the couch, off his DS, TV n computer games. But he swims everyday tho' n into Basketball this fall. He plays t/t mainly bcuz. I ask him to n also there r group of frenz @ the t/t club whom he can mingle wif during coaching, which is good. Good t/t teens around him or hang out wif him also motivate him to a certain extent but I don't expect him to excel in this sport as myself can't even find time to play more. U r in better situation than I'm, u've table n robot @ home. Ur interests/hobbies are NOT his! There are few members who can help us here...namely, master-pong, 7homuz, gaute, ttman or others I can think of, ask them how their parents moltivate/push them.
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skatz
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Thanks Tommy. I probably have been pressuring him too much. Unfortunately, the cutest thing we have at our club is a 62 year old Russian woman. She's very nice but not his type.
Having kids his own age to play with would be a great motivation. Unfortunately, kids in this country don't seem to play this game much.
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debraj
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try changing his equipment ... people get bored playing same style same faces same results. if something new improves his game, it will renew interest. and it's true .. at this age people do move for sports that attract admiration from chicks and cheerleaders
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melarimsa
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My son is 9y. He is going with me twice a week to play. Again Sheldon like your son, he is bored and he go running arround the building. I will sometimes put new rubbers for him (I have 3 set ups for him and always tell him it is new better speed and spin, he is into that). No pushing, let him do his stuff. He'll come arround.
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tiehwen
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At that age, even 2 yrs b4 that I remember I already went after girls n got big time REJECTED! So, so funny..come to think of it. Some kids I know @ ta club are so self-moltivated, so focus...just amazing...7homuz I know is one. There r also pretty girls of his age to hang around wif. that helps him too.
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Gaute
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The best thing to have like around when you are playing table tennis is many at same level, and many at same age, or best of all, many at same age and same level. Give him a couple of days off, and try to talk to him, give him inspiration. You can for example give him an offer. IF you train alot, I�ll send you to a big tournament.
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tiehwen
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Has ur parent ever made deal wif u like if u train this much or do this, do that I'll buy u this n that...alot of parent do these I know as my wife still does to him..he'll not do good that way I believe. He then will train hard just for that new game or toy or someth'n else. Competition/challenges/failures/losing are also good to moltivate them, like this chubby kid just beat me, 11-9 the 3rd game, can't be right..I wanna train harder to get even next week or next game..This one I've seen it @ ta club.
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skatz
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I agree with you. Making an "if you do this you get that" deal is not the way to go. One of his complaints is that playing me is too boring. When we play he usually beats me but very close like 11-9 in the fifth game.
I think maybe quality versus quantity might be the best thing for him now. Maybe I'll try discussing that with him. I guess I need to find out what would motivate him and try to provide it.
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skatz
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New rubbers is a good idea. He likes trying different setups.
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tiehwen
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Bear in mind that at that age, we parent can only say/do so much, any th'n more sometimes can be "unhelpful" n could have negative effect..also at that age they have to deal w/lots of things from their perspectives, like growing up, frenz...etc..etc..Life is more complicated these days compares to our older days.... |
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jt99sf
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"Loves his Nintendo DS and Nintendo Wii and his PC. "
IMHO, you can stop buying him these game systems. Just my 2 cents.
JL
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tommyzai
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Be careful . . . I'm not saying you should buy him these games, but if you forbid him and try to force him to practice his ping pong you will be taking a BIG step towards alienating yourself from him and ruining his playing for a long, long time. Look, I'm not saying I have the best advice, but I will say this . . . I am a licensed professional counselor (when not playing ping pong or pimping gear on here), specializing in adolescents treatment. Here's what I would say, "Son, I love you. I'm proud of you. Everything you do, you do well. I would never force you to do what I like or forbid you from doing anything you like, but as your father I need to tell you something I feel is important. You are gifted and could a GREAT ping pong player, and I'm not just saying this because you're my son. You are young and have talent. If you find it in yourself to keep the passion . . . the love for the game alive, you will be SO glad you did. Think about what it would take to keep playing fun and challenging. I will respect your decision, no matter what it is, but it's real special that we share this special sport together and I'm hoping we can keep sharing it . . . and I get to watch you SPANK the living daylights out of higher and higer level players along the way. I won't be here forever, and some day I hope you will look back and think it how special it was that we played and learned and shared this game. I love you and if it's not in your heart to do this anymore, get me a freakin' joystick or whatever they call it nowadays and teach me to play PS3." Well, you can laugh if you want, but be REAL. Don't play any of those ridiculous power-struggle parenting games that will ultimately lead to hurting your relationship for years. This is my 3 freakin' cents! |
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skatz
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I do agree. Those things are a curse. We gave in to "everyone has one".
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tiehwen
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We r talking abt "How to moltivate.." n yet u r now into these "shutting down", "controlling", "enforcing" territories...well, sure not all parent can stop buying all those gadgets...but when all these kids go to school, they will talk/discuss abt all these games/stuffs/things like that...try stop their conversations/mingling/socializing abt those..eh?
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skatz
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That is a very good point. The question is how to motivate him enough so he will want to do both. Not one or the other!
Thanks.
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tiehwen
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to b honest, there was a 12-13 yr old kid here who played his Nintendo DS or whatever right in front of my n his parent'S faceS one morning @ ta club during a tourney not too long ago...after his focused games he went onto the table n beat the crap outta some older opponent, n came back by his parent to play his game somemore wif his group of frenz. He is good n he loves those gadgets too..wonder how his parent do it..should track them down n seeK advice..the key thing here I believe is BALANCE. Expose him to goods n also evils but be there when they need u.
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Gaute
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Dont misunderstand. My parents dont give me toys or games if I train a lot. But the only way I can travel to different places to play tournaments every month is because I train a lot. The club supports me, and my parents only give me premission to travel if I do train. What is wrong with that. You give and get. :) On the other hand it is cool to play:P |
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mdjenders
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how about LONG PIPS. The sheer wackiness might entertain him, and you could tell him about choppers. Running around like a wild man (while still techinically playing tt) > pushing
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jt99sf
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I'm no parenting expert. I have 14 yr-old twin boys and they don't play TT and I don't force it on them.
I will certainly help them and train them if they express desire to play TT. I will also tell them that this is a life sport for me. I enjoy TT for the friendships, the great workout it gives me and sometimes if I'm really lucky - a trophy!
"the key thing here I believe is BALANCE." Thanks Tiehwen, I totally agree with you.
JL
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alfie
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take away the nintendo and PC....problem solved
btw very soon he is going to know EVERYTHING and you will be as dumb as dumb gets,that will last until he is about 22-23 then you will all of a sudden be smart again
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did he loose alot, especially in matches against his peers? thats can always be a bummer...
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skatz
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No, he has done very well in tournaments. Rarely loses to anyone below him. Won the Connecticut under 13, under 15 and runner up in under 18 when he was only 11!
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skatz
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Tommy, that is really beautiful. I have been trying to communicate just that to him. So has his mother. I have to admit that I have prpobably been pushing him too much because I want someone to play with. He went to camp for 4 weeks and just came back. I actually played more when he was away. I found a practice partner and went to the local club more.
I guess that's what I need to keep doing. If he doesn't want to play or if he only wants to play for a short while, then find someone/somewhere else to play.
Thanks Tommy that was really helpful!
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I would stop buying videogames for him, limit his time with videogames.
when you are 13yr old you dont know what you want in your life so you go about trying new things, just keep an open window for tt. |
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