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Kolev
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Thanks a lot for the excellent review nicefrog.Nice to read. Though I am badly tempted to try it, I am a bit reluctant because of the weight and the inconvenient smash.On the other hand you've mentioned that it performs better than H2 in dusty conditions and that's tempting, cause I've discovered the same. BTW,my H2 also changes when there is humidity(not theTG3 though)
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Kolev, If you are happy with TG3 then I probably wouldn't swap to Thors either since TG3 is already a really nice rubber. For myself I've been trying to find a way to have better mid range looping (since H2 really sucks for this) while still being able to play very well close to the table and Thor's is as close to what I want as I've found so far. For what it does (little bit better than the normal tacky rubber) and at double the price of most tacky rubbers it's fairly expensive so you have to take that into account too. But it's great that a sticky topsheet on a tensor sponge can be made to work :) and I think they can make even better variations of this theme in the future
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Anton Chigurh
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nicefrog: Thanks for the awesome review. I'm pretty much sold. The next time I have $35 I'm picking up some Thor's.
Right now, I have a sheet of Giant Dragon Tai Chi hard to try out. I'm worried cuz the pips look big and I don't normally like large pips. Anyway, thanks again and maybe Palio should hook you up with a discount next time, cuz I'm buying a sheet of Thor's bases solely on your review. |
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Leatherback
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....excited????
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BeaverMD
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I was searching for Thor reviews and came across deb's comment. LMAO
As for Thor, I probabably won't try it because I didn't even like Neo H3 Comm. I was hoping Thor would be a cheaper SpinArt but I guess not. Edited by BeaverMD - 10/18/2010 at 3:11pm |
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My sheet doesn't have a T and its new.
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Anton Chigurh
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I'd like to hear some more input from some other people about this rubber... and I wouldn't mind hearing nicefrog's opinion about it now that some time has passed.
Is it still a viable rubber? |
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nicefrog
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Hi mate yeah I've been practicing with all kids of rubbers and blades trying to figure out what I'm going to use next year, I'm certainly learning some things about the relationship between the shape of the curve a ball flys and how difficult it is to return, my acoustic with H2 feels and looks like it has enormous spin on it but it's just so easy to return compared to a sharper lower flying blade. Thors is improving with age I have probably used it constantly for 10 hours now and learning to use it better all the time.
I've had some people ask me what rubber I'm using because they felt I was making extraordinary amount of spin but those were guys I don't normally play. My usual playing partners all think it's the hardest rubber to return of all the ones I've been hitting with lately, I myself don't think it's because it has much more spin than anything else, but it is a little faster and something they aren't used to, I still think it would be really good on a light stiff hard blade, it has heaps of control and low speed touch so I think you could use it on a straight up OFF blade no problem but then again I haven't used it on a bendy all wood blade yet either so you never know :) maybe that will work too. It is a good rubber, you just have to decide if it's worth the money compared to some of the other fancy tensors that don't cost so much more
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dragon kid
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Nicefrog, have you use it in competition or serious play??
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nicefrog
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It's the off season now but 80% of my practice is serious games, mostly against guys not at my level but I try to put a cap on the points they score, like keep them under 5 points for example. So that way I'm trying hard. I did have some games with a guy at a higher level than me and I lost, it was close though and not the rubbers fault :)
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Anton Chigurh
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Thanks nicefrog. I just started playing again. I had an unopened sheet of Tai Chi Hard to use, so that's what's on my blade now. So far I'm enjoying it but we'll see what happens with time. Even if I continue to dig it, I think I'll still have to pick up a sheet of Thor's. Last question: How does Thor's compare with Black Power, in terms of throw? |
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debraj
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oh shh8..!!! you got a new sheet from the older batch ...
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nicefrog
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I haven't used black power long term but do you have a sheet of Red Diamond? I can compare it to that, they have the same sponge anyway. Red Diamond has a lower throw and feels more crisp and sporting. Thor's is a bit more "doughy/dead" feeling but probably still almost as fast as Red Diamond, Thor's I would say does everything better than Red Diamond other than loop low over the table and counter loop, which Red Diamond is veeery good at. I'm really a big Red Diamond fan, it's my favorite el cheapo rubber so it's still in the number one spot to get a place on the backhand of my blade, I also want to try LKT rapid speed which should be pretty awesome I think. I'm happy with Thors on the FH for now
Edited by nicefrog - 10/20/2010 at 2:06am |
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debraj
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nicefrog... don't waste your money on rapid speed extrapolating red diamond performance. :)
you will be surprised ... and you wont like that surprise |
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rawrtje
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Rapid Sound is a very swell do-it-all rubber on the backhand, if you want to consider other ones in the Rapid series
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nicefrog
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Did you like it?, it's kinda lonely in the Thor using camp for some reason :p
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Anton Chigurh
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When my Tai Chi Hard "dies" then I'll likely try some Thor's. You won't be lonely forever! |
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nicefrog
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You might be waiting years, well we will get to see how long Thors lasts :). I'll be up to about ten hours after this week, hasn't changed for the worse yet. I'm going to try hitting lots of smashes with it this week to see if it's better at that than I first thought (seems it might be)
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nicefrog
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Ok I'm over 10 hours continuos full on hitting with this rubber now, getting more and more used to it. Seems like now I'm more used to it than I am with H2, like if I pick up H2 I go slightly backwards. For mid range looping this rubber is unbelievable good. I always had the problem with H2 that if I got pushed back then for me the point didn't have much hope of being saved (although in the last 4 weeks with the extra speed and higher throw I've got from Thors I've been able to totally change my loops swing from mid range and retain how it was close to the table), with the changes if I get pushed back then the point is 90% mine in fact I'm often going back on purpose, It's still great at the table and over the table, you need to hit it a bit different to H2 but I'm pretty much adapted now. I tried some smashes today and it seems pretty consistant. It chops really really well, I'm trying to find a good backhand rubber, I'm narrowing down what I need and I actually like Thors on the backhand too but there's no red one yet :(. Apart from that I think I need a high throw medium speed slightly tacky or VERY grippy rubber. I really want to improve my game next year and I almost never miss a point with my FH now so getting my backhand up to a decent level will be by far the most simple way for me to gain. Anyway, Thors is great even better than I first thought. It doesn't play like H2 and is much faster and also much harder for the opponent to return than H2 which in itself is very hard to return compared to most rubbers so I figure Thors must be very very good. While comparing it to H2 I had a rally that took 7 big mid range loops with H2 to win the point and another took 5 or 6, I don't think any mid range rally lasted more than 3 or 4 loops with Thors in the same session and I can hit from further back with Thors, so it's all around win
Edited by nicefrog - 10/24/2010 at 2:39am |
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dragon kid
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How good is thor on slow loops nicefrog? The kind that you really graze the ball and produce a heavy spin?? Is it better than H2 on this? This is my favorite shot to open up play with..
Mate, you really make me interested to try thor. And i still have one unused H3 Provincial... Darrnnn... |
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rawrtje
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You mentioned it's better than RD in most respects...is the degree of its "better-ness" proportional to its higher cost (more than 2x)? I suppose what I'm asking is, would you say to a RD user: "I know it's twice as expensive, but it's so much better than what you're using that you gotta try it!"
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nicefrog
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Dragonkid it's good for slow loops, it'll take you a while to get used to the change from a DHS rubber because it doesn't fly the same way.
rawrtje, It's not twice as good as Red Diamond, but it's probably 20 dollars better depending on how important 20 dollars is to you and how long it's going to last. I can play pretty much just as well with Red Diamond as Thors, Red Diamond more suits the game I was playing with H2, but the game I can play with Thors is going to be a more high level game and that's the direction I want to go in. I feel like a bit of a knob being the only person talking about it :p but as far as I see, it's worth talking about
Edited by nicefrog - 10/24/2010 at 4:15am |
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rawrtje
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Aw that's a might shame. I was sold on RD based on how people compared it to BP, and now I'm sold on Thors! I actually have a sheet of RD coming in, so Thors will have to wait for at least another 3-4 months, until BP and RD die, if they last that long
Well, hopefully we'll get your verdict on Thors' durability by then!
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Anton Chigurh
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As hungry as I was for info about this rubber, I'm now forced to ask you, "Please stop talking about it!" I don't have the spare cash to buy any Thor's right now (no, not even $35... the life of a grad student is one of small financial reward ). Yet every thing you say about it makes me want to try it. So, for the sake of my EJ soul, please say bad things about it... even if you don't mean it! I have a week before I get paid, and then it's on! But until then, nicefrog, I need you to write a one page (single-spaced) paper about how horrible this rubber is. |
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nicefrog
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Ok I wont mention it any more until you get your cash :). But I do find it really strange that all the Chinese rubber users that dream of a high performance tacky rubber and are happy to pay 100$ for national versions of this and that which at least 50% aren't real and aren't any better than this even when they are real haven't jumped on it. It also gives me the warm fuzzys to know some of the money has gone to Germany rather than all to China which right now I'm not very happy with (for all the fake stuff and general dodgyness). In the end I don't have much money either but if I don't continuously buy low end rubbers just to see how they play I can surely afford two medium price rubbers each 6 months that I know are good and I can use to whatever level I may be able to reach during the rest of my playing life, so that surely the sensible thing to do
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JohnnyChop
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as i am short on money too... but if Thor can last 6 month then i can afford it... just hope and pray
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nicefrog
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I've already used it for more minutes than I play in competition in a season lol so I'm sure it will last me, it plays better now than when it was new. But I'm going to put another 30-40 hours on it and see what happens
Edited by nicefrog - 10/25/2010 at 10:26am |
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debraj
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nice frog...
i had been trying to move from tenergy... and found acuda pretty nice for everything else except durability and spin on serves. then i am now on h3 NEO... i don't know if it is because i took the neo off one blade and pasted on another...(losing the tuning layer)...neo H3 feels incredibly slow and dead after acuda or tenergy. i do love the smashes and other short fishing strokes and out-of-position recoveries ..with NEO. but miss the sheer finishing power of acuda or tenergy in loop-loop encounters. thors seem to have ignited my ej spirit once more.. thinking this has the dead chinese rubber DNA in short game and alive power looper rubber in power game. i want to know if that is correct? i also want to know how thor blocks?...because tackies usually are not known for their blocking prowess. and how it serves after so many days of playing? because tensors lose some surface grip over time. |
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nicefrog
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Thors absolutely has that dead feel in the short game, it has basically no speed in that role like any dead non tuned chinese rubber, in fact I think it feels more dead than the neo rubbers, That's because it's a very tacky rubber, even with a plastic cover on the rubber it feels kinda dead but when you do that it's fairly fast while feeling dead lol. It's just got a different feeling to a rock hard sponge, if you can imagine that the sponge is "dense" rather than "hard" then you can kind of imagine how it feels. I haven't taken much notice of how it blocks I guess that's a sign that it's ok, plus I've always used tacky rubber on both sides and can block well with them so I probably wouldn't notice anyway. It serves really well, I don't think this rubber can be compared to a grippy tensor that may loose it's surface grip because Thors is very tacky and made from this rubber that's kind of.... almost permanently not quite dry stuff but it's also got like rough particles in the rubber. I think if it stays covered it will stay tacky and grippy forever. But yes the main thing is that it has endless control in the touch game but can attack very well from mid distance, I don't think it's comparable to the NEO's it's a better rubber than that
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