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ohhgourami
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The curly hair guy is nowhere near 1900. I'd be surprised if he's even 1600. Unless he comes from a state that isn't like California, New York, or Maryland then maybe he can have such an inflated rating. |
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spitfire
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Let's not judge other people's rating based on 1 video clip, remember the guy Pushblocker? How many of you guys thought he is only 1600? And he is a solid 2000plus player as we later found out.
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spitfire
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my 2cents
Post more video if you still want (takes courage but oh well), and post some of your good games as well.
Change the topic (or change your first post) to something like me versus a 1900 rated player so give nobody any excuse to misunderstand.
Is it me or you are having trouble reading his spin? (espically his serve)
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bumpernets19
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m.k guys its not like I'm a compulsive liar. His actual rating is b/t 18-1900. And we are both from Alabama. He went to baltimore with melarimsa and ken cameron from mytt. Like I already said. Hopefully the new vids will be up within the hour...I haven't even watched them yet though, and I'm not sure if they are great since they are just fun rallies not any games. God...are you there? Why are there haters on mytt? Its just a fun filled forum. Anyways vids will be up shortly. And to the guy asking about my shoe...Thats kind of important to me. I have never had a shoe come off and those are the energy 3's that I got for Christmas...I'm not sure why it came off because I have them really tight. I think it has something to do with the shoes not having a tongue.
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bumpernets19
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Well I like to have a gameplan no matter what his serve is because I know his main weaknesses b/c I have played him so many times. This tournament is for fun, not for trying to beat everyone to death. Barnabas is my friend, and I talk to him a lot in the match which distracts me from focusing on how many points I'm down and everything of importance in the match. I never even got a foothold in this match and could never get warmed up. He got a warm up b/c he played a good local first round, I however played a little kid...so to say the least, I wasn't ready. But to answer the question, his serves are better than par and I do have a little trouble reading them...but the one that I chopped at, was just a lack of confidence in looping since I hadn't hit a loop all night. His bottom spins are more bottom than side, and normally he puts more side...thats why I didn't get under those serves enough and hit them into the net. I did read one of them right and pushed it to his forehand and got lucky he didn't smash it. |
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spitfire
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I see, i guess you were beaten by a better player in a match where your shots just don't seems to fall....Well this is exactly the kind of match that make people a lot worse than they really are. If you have any other clips where you played somebody your level and you played decent, it would definitly give others a better idea of your true weakness. Everybody looks bad when playing someone a level above.
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spitfire
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Relax man, nobody is calling you a liar or anything close to that. If this is your first video post on this forum, remember that there will always be somebody jump out and grill you no matter what level you play at and who you played. It sucks but hey, this is the internet. Since you didn't do well in the video, i would suggest another video where you played your equivalent. Keep up the good work.
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Swiff
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As for the whole 1300 video that was posted.. I want to throw out there
that looks can be very deceiving when watching and trying to rate
someone. When someone has a "coached" technique, like service and
stroke, they can look very professional and robotic, making them look
higher rated than they are. The stroke alone can sometimes make you
want to bump them up a few hundred points. Just like someone who has
NO stroke technique and plays ugly, can still be better than he/she
looks.
Now for the critiquing. Your stroke and footwork need a lot of work. For your stroke, I would trust this video. It's a video I give to people who need to learn stroke. Now of course stroke will change with the situation, the ball your receiving, speed spin etc. But for basic stroke, follow this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqtfLYKOTD4 As for you're footwork. First, you need to bend your knees more, it's much easier to see the spin on the ball and it'll lead to more power, better balance, better foot work. Bend your knees. Your receiving stance needs to be a little more to the right (remember, bent knees=lower stance=seeing the spin on the serve). Also, you were pushing almost every serve. If a serve has any topspin at all, I would loop or smash it, not push. This is a very hard part of the game and will take practice. I'm running out of things to critique :) So bottom line. Keep low, knees bent. Work on the stroke and the footwork. Move your receiving stance to the right. And work on hitting different kinds of spin. |
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Anton Chigurh
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By no means did I do an exhaustive review of your vid, but here are a few things that jumped out at me: You have a bad habit that I used to have (and still sometimes fall back into). You watch your serves, and subsequently you're not ready when your opponent returns them. For me, I practiced the crap out of my serves so that they're second nature; then, I don't worry about watching to see if they made it over, or if my opponent returned them (always expect the ball to come back). In short, I suggest just serving and immediately get into ready position. Watch your opponent's paddle for better anticipation of the return. I think you missed out on a few third ball attack opportunities.
At 1:20, you did a pendulum serve from your forehand corner. It went into the net, but even if it went over you likely would have lost the point. Again, when I first started I used to do this serve. As my coach inevitably pointed out, it's a "suicide serve" as he used to say. You're opening up your entire backhand side for being attacked, while putting yourself in the most inconvenient position for defending an attack to your backhand side. I hope that makes sense the way I described it. Basically, don't do it.
Work on reading the spin of your opponent's serves. Many of his serves were too high and could've been easily flicked or even smashed.
You looked a little nervous. It could've been the fact that you knew you were being taped, but I assumed it's because you were slightly "intimidated" (for lack of a better term) by your opponent. Don't be. Table tennis is as mental (probably more) than it is physical. Be confident and take the initiative. Of course, this comes with time and confidence in your technique... and that only comes with practice. So, practice, practice, practice.
And kudos for posting, especially an unedited loss. It takes courage and humility.
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Krantz
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I am little worried about how you play with your racket all the time; proper, consistent grip is absolutely crucial if you think of any improvement in your game. Are you sure that you hold your racket exactly the same in each type of stroke? - at least in each backhand and forehand respectively? (I recommend one grip for both sizes' strokes personally).
Your opponent looked just too fast for you atm - you have to be able to quickly execute full movement strokes from Swiff video above to beat him... |
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bumpernets19
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thanks all for the more positive results. I have a few videos from my friend (a rec sports coach) and I but they are a tad boring ... I don't have a very good sense for video-ing so I just have the camera in a bad spot and You can't see either of us very well and he is a blocker and I am a looper so the whole time, I am just looping until it goes off the table...the camera ran out of memory before we got to play a game, but I will try to get at least one of the shorter vids up then a couple of my girlfriend and I, as she is looking for help improving as well. thnx again.
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BarnabasG
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LOL, wut a joke. i would beat u like a drum probably. please tell me ur anywhere from 1800-2000 so i can take like 40 points from u when ever i meet u. thanks
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BarnabasG
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please tell me wut ur rating is. i live n alabama and just played in the baltimore teams tournament against all 1600,1700, and 1800 players and went up 15 points. Holy crap every ones rating must b inflated. do sum actual research and stop trolling. |
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Fruit loop
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I disagree. Using a pendulum serve from the forehand side can be beneficial in setting up a backhand loop. Although i don't generally serve it from the forehand side, i definitely do it from just right of the middle of the table for this variation. Depending on which variation i serve because of the angle change they sometimes push their receive to the left of the table or push it right into the slot of my backhand loop. I wouldn't recommend doing this all the time though =] |
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Fruit loop
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I really hope this is a troll but i'm going to take the bait anyway. You think you're some hotshot kid with a average rating and you come here to sh*t talk players that are just voicing their opinions? My mind is blow on how such a mediocre player can be so cocky and conceited. Seriously buddy, stop being an assumptive little keyboard hero and grow up. |
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tpgh2k
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@fruit: you should have seen his serves back then lol! he would do like 15 stomps with both feet like he was running in place and then serve a soso underspin/sidespin ball...
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Takadigi
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That might be the case with lower rated opponents. But against any higher rated player (starting from say, about 1600), a pendulum serve from your forehand to their forehand would inevitable be strongly attached, particularly if they are right handed. And they would likely get it right for over 90% of the time as they would be really using your spin to make the shot. |
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Fruit loop
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Of course the serve would be short and most often chop/sidespin mix. if i serve plain side or top i would be expecting a flick. This works against players of around 2000 usatt level as well. |
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BarnabasG
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No Troll here, same goes for you. i will beat you also if you are 1800-2000. Keyboard hero, lmao. thats all these forums are. a bunch of guys who have dedicated there lives to something there not even good at. all these guys have been playing like 20 years and are like 1900. that is funny. i have been playing only a lil over 2 years. please do feel free to look me up on usatt. Barnabas Gonzalez. also let me know your name so i can check you out.
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Anton Chigurh
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You may or may not be "good", but that doesn't dismiss the fact that you're a troll. Did you start an account just to try to belittle people? What a douche. I sure am glad you joined the forum, and may I say, feel free to leave at any time and not return... ever. XOXO |
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ZingyDNA
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You're not a troll, but a douchebag! And you left your name here to make sure the small TT community know that. Way to go smart ass!
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bumpernets19
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sorry guys...but it would hurt my feelings to if my rating was upper 1800s and peope were comparing me to 12 year olds that are a little over 1300..thats kind of belittling as well correct? Barnabas is a good guy...maybe a little cocky, but he is a great table tennis player...I introduced him to this forum...just give him some time to adapt...We all know that we have been smart a$$es on the forum before.
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tdragon
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By the way, if you just come to the forum to show off your smart a$$, then you are not welcomed in here.
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Fruit loop
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I live in australia so i don't have a usatt rating. Feel free to check out my videos with boz. I've been playing for around 2 years also. You're a troll and a mediocre table tennis player with an ego. gtfo the forums plz. |
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ladiesman69
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Mr. Gonzalez, when you are finished cleaning my club's floors maybe we can organise to have a hit? I'd like to see what you've got. |
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BarnabasG
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I prolly wont ever b n Cali, but i will b n the Teams tourny n Baltimore. cya there if u wanna play.
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BarnabasG
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please send me sum links to ur vids. i dnt have time to waste looking up vids of sum1 i dnt know and dnt care to watch. i will watch them if u send them to me then i can talk trash about how bad u r cuz thats all u do anyway. TROLL!!!!
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BarnabasG
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Just tell me where u live and dnt expect me to clean any floors 4 u unless u r that great.
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BarnabasG
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send me links to ur vids.
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smackman
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the trouble is the attitude thing, so don't worry too much its mainly young men with egos. keep improving and take the time to get involved in this forum and just look for the positives and enjoy but don't be put down if advice comes your way
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