The pro's equipment -discussion and questions!
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Topic: The pro's equipment -discussion and questions!
Posted By: Schlager
Subject: The pro's equipment -discussion and questions!
Date Posted: 05/07/2010 at 5:44am
Together with Alex I have decided to start a thread to gather all questions, and discussions, about the pro's equipment!
This means:
1. All off topic will be deleted, or moved out in separate topics.
2. All new topics posted with questions about the pro's equipment will be moved into this one!
I have put in a few pro's that I know, and I will keep this first post updated with a list of the pro's and their equipment.
I will do alphabetically after their last name.
If you are absolutely certain about a players equipment, please put it like this in your post, so I can just copy it into the list:
Ma Long R:Timo Boll Spirit F:H3 Neo B:Tenergy 64
Boll, Timo R:Timo Boll ALC F:Tenergy 05 B:Tenergy 05
In other words:
The Players Name Blade FH rubber BH rubber
New list 9/1/11 Courtesy of LiXiao and Forum Member Contributions updated 2/3/2012: (please note, for retired players, equipment listed is from the peak of their careers)
Machi
Asuka (JPN) R:
Mizutani Jun (FL)
F:
Tenergy 05
B:
Tenergy 64
Timo Boll (GER) R: Timo Boll ALC (ST) F: Tenergy 05 B: Tenergy 05
Kazuhiro Chan (JPN) R: Barwell (FL) F: Renanos Hold B: Hammond Pro Beta
Longcan Chen (CHN) R: PF4 08 (CP) F: 889
Qi Chen (CHN) R: Michael Maze (FL) F: Hurricane III NEO B: Tenergy 64
Weixing Chen (AUT) R: Defense II (FL) F: Shark III B: Curl P-1R
Yuk Cheung (HKG) R: Custom (FL) F: Tenergy 05 B: Tenergy 64 Chih-Yuan
Chuang (TPE) R:
Viscaria (FL) F:
Tenergy 05 B: Tenergy 64 Song Ding (CHN) R: Hurricane 08 (ST) F: Hurricane II B: 802
Johnny Huang (CAN) R: P700 (FL) F: Spinpips B: Spinpips
Seiko Iseki (Wei Qingguang) (JPN) R: Texalium ALL+ (CP) F: 999 CHN B: Driva Smash Ultima
Jialiang Jiang (CHN) R: Shunfeng 50 (CP) B: PF4 652
Tianyi Jiang (HKG) R: Custom Arylate Carbon (FL) F: Tenergy 05 B: Tenergy 64 Ueda
Jin (JPN)
R:
Mizutani Jun (FL)
F:
Tenergy 05
B:
Tenergy 05
Se Hyuk Joo (KOR) R: Custom (FL) F: Tenergy 64 B: Grass D.Tecs OX Yo Kan
(JPN) R:
Rosewood V (CP) F:
Hurricane III NEO B: ?
Niwa
Koki (JPN)
R:
Liu Shiwen ZLC (FL)
F:
Tenergy 25
B:
Tenergy 05
Seiya
Kishikawa (JPN) R:
Timo Boll ALC (FL) F:
Tenergy 05 B: Tenergy 64 Lai Chak Ko (HKG) R: V-1 (CP) F: Hurricane III NEO B: Neos Sound Max
Linghui Kong (CHN) R: P500 (AN) F: Purot B: Sogno
Petr Korbel (CZE) R: Custom ZL Fiber/Inner Fiber (FL) F: Tenergy 05 B: Tenergy 05
Kalinikos Kreanga (GRE) R: Custom Carbon (ST) F: Tenergy 05 FX B: Tenergy 05 FX
Jung Woo Lee (KOR) R: Cypress MAX (JP) F: Tenergy 64
Ching Li (HKG) R: Ebenholz NCT V (CP) F: Hurricane III NEO B: Tenergy
Guoliang Liu (CHN) R: Clipper Wood (CP) F: Spinpips B: Mendo
Lin Ma (CHN) R: Ma Lin Extra Offensive (CP) F: Skyline II B: Bryce Speed FX
Long Ma (CHN) R: Custom Power G7 (FL) F: Skyline III B: Tenergy 05
Wenge Ma (CHN) R: P500 (AN) F: Magical Spin B: Magical Spin Yoshimura
Masaharu (JPN)
R:
Mizutani Jun
F:
Tenergy 05
B:
Tenergy 05
Kenji Matsudaira (JPN) R: SK7 (ST) F: Tenergy 64 B: Tenergy 05 FX
Kenta Matsudaira (JPN) R: Timo Boll ALC (FL) F: Tenergy 05 B: Tenergy 05
Koji Matsush*ta (JPN) R: Matsush*ta Pro Model (ST) F: Tackifire
Drive B: Feint Long
II
Michael Maze (DEN) R: Custom Arylate Carbon (ST) F: Bryce Speed B: Bryce Speed
Jun Mizutani (JPN) R: Mizutani Jun (ST) F: Tenergy 64 B: Tenergy 64 Sang Eun Oh (KOR) R: Custom (FL) F: Tenergy 05 B: Tenergy 05
Tatuya
Ono (JPN)
R:
Quartet Allround (ST)
F:
Tenergy 05
B:?
Dimitrij Ovtcharov (GER) R: Ovtcharov Senso V1 (ST) F: Tenergy 05 B: Tenergy 05
Zoran Primorac (CRO) R: Custom Arylate (FL) F: Tenergy 05 B: Tenergy 05
Seung Min Ryu (KOR) R: Ryu Seung Min G-MAX (JP) F: Tenergy 05
Werner Schlager (AUT) R: Schlager (FL) F: Tenergy 05 B: Tenergy 05
Hiroshi Shibutani (JPN) R: Shibutani (ST) F: Tackifire Special Soft B: Feint Long II
Bastian Steger (GER) R: Custom (ST) F: Tenergy 05 B: Tenergy 05
Taku Takakiwa (JPN) R: Custom ZL Carbon (FL) F: Tenergy 05 B: Tenergy 05
Peng Tang (HKG) R: Ebenholz NCT VII (FL) F: Blue Whale III B: Dolphin
Toshio Tasaki (JPN) R: Chinese Style L (CP) F: Original T-Version B: Feint Soft
Xin Xu (CHN) R: Rosewood NCT V (CP) F: Hurricane III NEO B: ?
Hao Wang (CHN) R: Hurricane Hao (CP) F: Skyline III B: Sriver on Bryce Speed sponge
Liqin Wang (CHN) R: Hurricane King (FL) F: Hurricane III NEO B: Tenergy 64
Tao Wang (CHN) R: P700 (ST) F: 999 B: Spectol
Yonggang Wang (CHN) R: Albored Offensive (CP) F: Spinpips
Jae Young Yoon (KOR) R: Custom Arylate Carbon (FL) F: Tenergy 05 B: Tenergy 64
Kaii Yoshida (JP) R: Yoshida Kaii (CP) F: Tenergy 64
Jian Zhan (SIN) R: Clipper CR
WRB (FL) F: Dolphin B: ?
Jike Zhang (CHN) R: Viscaria (FL) F: Hurricane III NEO B: Tenergy 64
Here
you are, the new updated list. Correct any errors i have made. R-
Racket, F-Forehand, B- Backhand, First name/last name, country, and
handle shape.
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WOMEN:
Boros, Tamara (HRV) Korbel SK7 (FL) Tenergy 05 Tenergy 05
Dodean, Daniela (ROU) Primorac Carbon (FL) Tenergy 64 Tenergy 64
Gao Jun (USA) Matsush*ta Pro CS Butterfly Challenger Attack
Kim Kyung Ah (KOR) Nittaku Kim Kyung Ah
Nittaku Narucross EX Nittaku Screw
Liu Shiwen (CHN) Korbel (FL) H3 Neo Blue Sponge Tenergy 64
Pavlovich, Viktoria (BLR) Defence Alpha Tenergy 05 1,7 mm Feint Long III
Stefanova, Nikoleta (ITA) Korbel SK7 (FL) Tenergy 05 2,1 mm Tenergy 05 2,1 mm
Tie Yana (HKG) Special Made Tenergy 05 2,1 mm Tenergy 05 2,1 mm
Toth, Krisztina (HUN) Tenergy 64 2,1 mm Tenergy 64 2,1 mm
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------------- Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST
Rubbers: Bluefire M2 2.0
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Replies:
Posted By: IceObsession
Date Posted: 05/07/2010 at 7:20am
Cool! What about female players?
------------- FH: DHS Neo Hurricane III
BH: TSP Spectol 21
Blade: TSP Limban Offensive(FL)
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Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 05/07/2010 at 7:55am
I have updated the first post, and will include both male and female players in the list.
Now I know that we have a thread for both male and female pro's equipment already, but the reason I'm doing this ks that both threads contain what the players used before the glue ban.
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Apolonia, Thiago (POR) Petr Korbel Off Tenergy 05 Tibhar Genius
Baum, Patrick (GER) Arylate-carbon blade (probably TBS) with Baum Carrera Senso handle. Tenergy (05?) Tenergy (05?)
Boll, Timo (GER) Timo Boll ALC Tenergy 05 Tenergy 05
Carneros, Alfredo (ESP) Acoustic Tenergy 05 Nianmor
Chen Qi (CHN) Michael Maze Off
Hurricane III Neo Blue Sponge Unknown Tenergy
Chih-Yuan, Chuang (TPE) BTY Custom blade Tenergy 05 Tenergy 64 Duran, Marc (ESP) Korbel SK7 Tenergy 64 Tenergy 64
Gerell, Pär (SWE) Stiga Rosewood Calibra LT Calibra LT
Hao Shuai (CHN) Viscaria Light H3 Neo Orange Sponge Bryce Speed
Hoyama, Hugo (BRA) Hasha Special (JPEN) Pryde
Kishikawa, Seiya (JPN) Custom Blade with Maze handle Tenergy Tenergy Korbel, Petr (CZE) Custom blade based on the Korbel Magic Hand with two glass fiber plies. Tenergy 05 Tenergy 05
Kreanga, Kalinikos (GRE)
Primorac Carbon with K.Kreanga off handle
Tenergy 05
Tenergy 05
Legout, Christophe (FRA) Timo Boll Spirit (with Legout handle) Tenergy 05 Tenergy 05
Ma Long (CHN) Timo Boll Spirit H3 Neo Tenergy 64
Ma Lin (CHN) Ma Lin Extra Offensive
Skyline II Blue sponge Bryce Speed
Machado, Carlos (ESP) Mazunov Tenergy 64 Tenergy 64
Matsumoto, Cazuo (BRA) Hasha Special (JPEN) Tenergy 05
Mattenet, Adrien (FRA) Butterfly Photino Tenergy Tenergy
Maze, Michael (DEN) Timo Boll Spirit Bryce Speed Bryce Speed
Mizutani, Jun (JPN) Jun Mizutani ZLC Tenergy 64 Tenergy 64
Monteiro, Joao (POR) Michael Maze Off Tenergy 05 Tibhar Genius
Monteiro, Thiago (BRA) Hinotec OFF Pilot Advance Pilot Advance
Oh San Eun (KOR) Oh Sang Eun Tenergy 64 Tenergy 64
Ovtcharov, Dimitrij (GER) Waldner Senso Carbon Tenergy of some sort Donic rubber of some sort
Panatagonis, Gionis (GRE) Petr Korbel Off Tenergy 05 Feint Long II
Persson, Jörgen (SWE)
Old Persson Powerplay
?
?
Saive, Jean-Michel (BEL) Clipper CR Calibra LT Calibra LT
Samsonov, Vladimir (BLR) Stratus Carbon Something with purple sponge Something with purple sponge
Schlager, Werner (AUT) Primorac Carbon with Schlager carbon handle (91 g) Tenergy 05 Tenergy 05
Smirnov, Alexei (RUS) Photino? Tenergy (64?) Tenergy (64?)
Steger, Bastian (GER) Korbel SK7 Tenergy 05 Tenergy 05
Süss, Christian (GER) Clipperlike blade with Andro handles
Tenergy 05 Tenergy 05
Tsuboi, Gustavo (BRA) SK7 Tenergy 05 Tenergy 05
Wang Hao (CHN) Hurricane Hao Skyline III Blue Sponge Sriver topsheet with somekind of white sponge
Wang Liqin (CHN) Timo Boll Spirit Hurricane II Neo Blue Sponge Hammond Pro Beta
Waldner, Jan-Ove (SWE) Waldner Senso Carbon JO Gold JO Platin
Zhang Jike (CHN) Viscaria FL H3 Neo Blue Sponge Tenergy 64
Xu Xin (CHN) Rosewood V Hurricane III Neo Orange Sponge Tenergy of some sort
------------- Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST
Rubbers: Bluefire M2 2.0
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Posted By: IceObsession
Date Posted: 05/07/2010 at 9:38am
Feng Tianwei (SIN) http://www.stigatabletennis.com/pro_objects_details.php?id=16 - http://www.stigatabletennis.com/pro_objects_details.php?id=16
Equipment
Blade: STIGA Ebenholz NCT VII
Rubber: STIGA Boost TC
------------- FH: DHS Neo Hurricane III
BH: TSP Spectol 21
Blade: TSP Limban Offensive(FL)
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Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 05/07/2010 at 10:11am
Looks more like a Kevtech/Carbokev to me?
by courtesy of the ITTF
I don't really trust Stiga's (or any other companies) website.
Anyway:
Zhang Jike Viscaria FL H3 Neo Blue Sponge Unknown
------------- Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST
Rubbers: Bluefire M2 2.0
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Posted By: IceObsession
Date Posted: 05/07/2010 at 10:24am
What's the diff between normal H3 neo and H3 neo blue sponge?
------------- FH: DHS Neo Hurricane III
BH: TSP Spectol 21
Blade: TSP Limban Offensive(FL)
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Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 05/07/2010 at 11:55am
The colour of the sponge! (I'm so glad I got here first)
One of them is probably a bit harder than the other. Could be other differences to, but I'm not sure..
------------- Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST
Rubbers: Bluefire M2 2.0
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Posted By: rui pedro81
Date Posted: 05/07/2010 at 12:36pm
Oh, Sang Eunblade: oh sang eun Rubber: Tenergy 64; Tenergy 64
joao monteiro
michael maze, Tenergy 05 Tenergy 05
------------- http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47168&KW=feedback+rui&" rel="nofollow - my feedback
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Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 05/07/2010 at 1:06pm
IceObsession wrote:
What's the diff between normal H3 neo and H3 neo blue sponge?�
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Some say that blue sponge is more elastic and react better with booster/tunning
------------- Dynaryz AGR /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Dynaryz AGR
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Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 05/07/2010 at 1:08pm
Brazilian National Team:
Thiago Monteiro: Cornilleau Hinotec OFF + Pilot Advance
Gustavo Tsuboi: BTY SK7 + Tenergy 05
Hugo Hoyama: Hasha Special + Pryde
Cazuo Matsumoto: Hasha Special + Tenergy 05
------------- Dynaryz AGR /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Dynaryz AGR
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Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 05/07/2010 at 1:50pm
Updated the first post.
Does anyone know what Christophe Legout is using?
It's some sort of Tenergy, and the blade is supposedly TBS, but that just doesn't seem right..
------------- Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST
Rubbers: Bluefire M2 2.0
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Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 05/07/2010 at 2:01pm
Schalger, note that Hoyama and Matsumoto are J-penholders. They use only one rubber.
For Legout, he uses T05 with TBS (legout handle)
------------- Dynaryz AGR /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Dynaryz AGR
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Posted By: IceObsession
Date Posted: 05/07/2010 at 2:06pm
Boros, Tamara (HRV) Korbel SK7 (FL) Tenergy 05 Tenergy 05
Dodean, Daniela (ROU) Primorac Carbon (FL) Tenergy 05
Tenergy 64
Liu Shiwen (CHN) Blade: Butterfly special blade (Arylate/Innerfibre)
H3 Neo Blue Sponge Tenergy 64
------------- FH: DHS Neo Hurricane III
BH: TSP Spectol 21
Blade: TSP Limban Offensive(FL)
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Posted By: gariklolkin
Date Posted: 05/10/2010 at 4:37pm
Wang Liqin has carbon blade? http://www.fotop.net/rxng/cntt/2009112912412798356_G?full=1
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Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 05/10/2010 at 4:41pm
Moved it into this topic, gariklokin..
It does look like a carbon mix, possibly arylate/carbon?
Edit: Found a picture of Xu Xin's racket, and that backhand rubber is certainly not Tenergy.
Also Chuang Chih-Yuan's racket which seems to be some sort of custom BTY blade with Tenergy 64 on the red side, and some type of Tenergy on the black side.
------------- Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST
Rubbers: Bluefire M2 2.0
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 05/10/2010 at 4:50pm
Vladimir Samsonov
Tibhar Stratus Carbon Tibhar Genius + Nimbus VIP
------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member
Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please...
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Posted By: Thylacine
Date Posted: 05/10/2010 at 5:02pm
Hugo Hoyama uses one rubber only. Same as Cazuo Matsumoto who was using some chinese rubber a few months ago.
------------- Single Ply Hinoki club
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Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 05/10/2010 at 5:08pm
Updated the first post with some posts that I must have missed..
IceObsession: Thanks for listing it up like that! So much faster to just copy them straight in!
------------- Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST
Rubbers: Bluefire M2 2.0
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Posted By: Sallom89
Date Posted: 05/10/2010 at 5:41pm
Schlager wrote:
Moved it into this topic, gariklokin..It does look like a carbon mix, possibly arylate/carbon?Edit: Found a picture of Xu Xin's racket, and that backhand rubber is certainly not Tenergy.Also Chuang Chih-Yuan's racket which seems to be some sort of custom BTY blade with Tenergy 64 on the red side, and some type of Tenergy on the black side.
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looks orange to me man.. :/
------------- Member of Wang Hao fan club.
Hurricane Hao III
FH: Thors
RPB: Omega Pro
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Posted By: SLee
Date Posted: 05/10/2010 at 9:08pm
Schlager wrote:
Moved it into this topic, gariklokin..It does look like a carbon mix, possibly arylate/carbon?Edit: Found a picture of Xu Xin's racket, and that backhand rubber is certainly not Tenergy.Also Chuang Chih-Yuan's racket which seems to be some sort of custom BTY blade with Tenergy 64 on the red side, and some type of Tenergy on the black side.
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Looks to me like Xu Xin's picture is an old one. I know that he uses the Stiga Offensive NCT now not the YEO(which is in the picture)
------------- USATT Rating: 2054
YEO CPen
FH: H3 NEO
BH: Express Xplode
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Posted By: Sallom89
Date Posted: 05/10/2010 at 9:44pm
SLee wrote:
Schlager wrote:
Moved it into this topic, gariklokin..It does look like a carbon mix, possibly arylate/carbon?Edit: Found a picture of Xu Xin's racket, and that backhand rubber is certainly not Tenergy.Also Chuang Chih-Yuan's racket which seems to be some sort of custom BTY blade with Tenergy 64 on the red side, and some type of Tenergy on the black side.
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Looks to me like Xu Xin's picture is an old one. I know that he uses the Stiga Offensive NCT now not the YEO(which is in the picture) |
The picture that I captured during Kuwait open shows that he is using an orange sponge.
------------- Member of Wang Hao fan club.
Hurricane Hao III
FH: Thors
RPB: Omega Pro
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Posted By: shaolinTT
Date Posted: 05/10/2010 at 9:54pm
Wang Hao's BH? I've read from somewhere that it is a thicker version of Sriver EL. I know it is hard to believe.
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Posted By: gariklolkin
Date Posted: 05/11/2010 at 3:27am
:))) maybe only handle is new?
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Posted By: gariklolkin
Date Posted: 05/11/2010 at 3:29am
SLee wrote:
Schlager wrote:
Moved it into this topic, gariklokin..It does look like a carbon mix, possibly arylate/carbon?Edit: Found a picture of Xu Xin's racket, and that backhand rubber is certainly not Tenergy.Also Chuang Chih-Yuan's racket which seems to be some sort of custom BTY blade with Tenergy 64 on the red side, and some type of Tenergy on the black side.
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Looks to me like Xu Xin's picture is an old one. I know that he uses the Stiga Offensive NCT now not the YEO(which is in the picture) |
maybe only handle is new?
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Posted By: atin
Date Posted: 05/11/2010 at 4:45am
Who knows what Wang Jian Jun equipment is at the moment? Still Stiga OC?
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Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 05/11/2010 at 11:23am
The picture with the white sponge was uploaded 4 days ago..
So I changed Xu Xin's backhand rubber to simply "Unknown"
------------- Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST
Rubbers: Bluefire M2 2.0
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Posted By: Sallom89
Date Posted: 05/11/2010 at 2:45pm
Schlager wrote:
The picture with the white sponge was uploaded 4 days ago.. So I changed Xu Xin's backhand rubber to simply "Unknown"
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"uploaded"?, but when was it captured? mine was captured during Kuwait open.
------------- Member of Wang Hao fan club.
Hurricane Hao III
FH: Thors
RPB: Omega Pro
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Posted By: rui pedro81
Date Posted: 05/11/2010 at 2:48pm
samsonov is not using grip s anymore? i doubt he changed it to genius... also chuang has his own blade not a custom one: http://www.butterflyonline.com/images/catalog/zoom/7090AN.jpg
------------- http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47168&KW=feedback+rui&" rel="nofollow - my feedback
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Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 05/11/2010 at 8:28pm
Doesn't look like the same blade to me..
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Sallom89 wrote:
Schlager wrote:
The picture with the white sponge was
uploaded 4 days ago.. So I changed Xu Xin's backhand rubber to simply
"Unknown"
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"uploaded"?, but when was it captured? mine was captured during
Kuwait open. |
It was uploaded to http://www.fotop.net/rxng/cntt/ - http://www.fotop.net/rxng/cntt/ 4, now 5, days ago.
The Kuwait open was over 2 months ago, so it's not unlikely that he has changed his bh since then..
------------- Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST
Rubbers: Bluefire M2 2.0
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Posted By: SLee
Date Posted: 05/11/2010 at 8:35pm
Schlager wrote:
Doesn't look like the same blade to me..
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Yeah I don't think so either. The top image has a line on the bottom of the handle where the butterfly logo is but the bottom image doesn't
------------- USATT Rating: 2054
YEO CPen
FH: H3 NEO
BH: Express Xplode
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Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 05/11/2010 at 8:49pm
Also the one he is using has a metal badge, does not have the blue lines across the handle and also has carbon layers of some kind.
------------- Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST
Rubbers: Bluefire M2 2.0
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Posted By: rui pedro81
Date Posted: 05/11/2010 at 10:18pm
timo boll spark then? http://www.butterflyonline.com/images/catalog/zoom/7048.jpg
------------- http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47168&KW=feedback+rui&" rel="nofollow - my feedback
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Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 05/11/2010 at 10:20pm
For me looks like a custom made that they put TB Spark handle without any lens..
TB Spark is only Arylate and this one looks like A/C.
------------- Dynaryz AGR /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Dynaryz AGR
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Posted By: TTdreamer1982
Date Posted: 05/11/2010 at 11:27pm
most of the top 20 player are using pure wood blade.
Including Ma long and Timo.
You would say "hey, but I see Ma's handle is Timo Boll Spirit!!"
Well....Like u just said....u saw the handle........
Same with Jun Mitzutani.
I played the blade which is made for him. Got the same handle as u see
that sells in TT store. But it is pure wood, light.... extremely controllable...
All pros' blade are not bouncy at all. Because for attack, U will need to learn
to put in strength on your own, not relying on blade. And All pros already
knew how to do that. But on defense and counter attacking shots, they
will have to have a extremely stable blade.
During intense and powerful rallies, it is impossible to count on bouncy
blades.
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Posted By: TBS9x
Date Posted: 05/12/2010 at 1:32am
Are you sure that Timo is using all wood with ALC handle ??? I dont know about the others but Schlager's stuff looks damn fast...
------------- Blade: Joo Se Hyuk
Stiga Boost TC
Tibhar Grass Dtecs 1.6mm
Video: - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u-p2VHaiDk
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7bHoFRj_oU
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYnqlW
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Posted By: TBS9x
Date Posted: 05/12/2010 at 1:35am
What does Joo use for blade? I've heard rumours that he use Matsush*ta pro alpha or matsush*ta pro with the JSH's handle. Before he used the special made diode...However, it's certain that he uses T64 and Tibhar Grass Dtecs
------------- Blade: Joo Se Hyuk
Stiga Boost TC
Tibhar Grass Dtecs 1.6mm
Video: - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u-p2VHaiDk
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7bHoFRj_oU
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYnqlW
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Posted By: TTdreamer1982
Date Posted: 05/12/2010 at 2:41am
TBS9x wrote:
Are you sure that Timo is using all wood with ALC handle ??? I dont know about the others but Schlager's stuff looks damn fast...
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Give them a blade bought from stationary, glued with Tenergy.
Believe me, when they do a drive, u still touch nothing.
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Posted By: anubhav1984
Date Posted: 05/12/2010 at 2:48am
TTdreamer1982 wrote:
TBS9x wrote:
Are you sure that Timo is using all wood with ALC handle ??? I dont know about the others but Schlager's stuff looks damn fast...
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Give them a blade bought from stationary, glued with Tenergy. Believe me, when they do a drive, u still touch nothing. |
I am sure that i have seen the blue colored ALC layers on Timo Boll's blade in one of the videos. Though i am very sure that you are correct about what you have said above, i just don't believe that they are using an all wood blade.
You should substantiate your verdict with pics to make all of us believe.
------------- Butterfly Viscaria FL FH - Undecided BH - Undecided
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Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 05/12/2010 at 7:20am
Here's Ma Long's TBS: http://www.fotop.net/rxng/cntt/20097161571118688_G - http://www.fotop.net/rxng/cntt/20097161571118688_G
And here's Boll's ALC: http://www.fotop.net/rxng/cntt/20091915302077018_G - http://www.fotop.net/rxng/cntt/20091915302077018_G
Both have layers of Arylate/Carbon.
------------- Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST
Rubbers: Bluefire M2 2.0
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Posted By: TBS9x
Date Posted: 05/12/2010 at 1:11pm
TTdreamer1982 wrote:
TBS9x wrote:
Are you sure that Timo is using all wood with ALC handle ??? I dont know about the others but Schlager's stuff looks damn fast...
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Give them a blade bought from stationary, glued with Tenergy.
Believe me, when they do a drive, u still touch nothing. |
Speed is not everything. Suppose all the pros are able to hit so powerful drives but then the they still can use carbon or ALC blades because if its already fast then they have to show that they are able to handle the speed in slow shot or they will be just like us, power but no control is nothing. Besides, Ma Long if he uses ALC, its possibly for the dead feeling ( little vibration ) that he wants.
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Stiga Boost TC
Tibhar Grass Dtecs 1.6mm
Video: - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u-p2VHaiDk
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7bHoFRj_oU
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYnqlW
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Posted By: debraj
Date Posted: 05/12/2010 at 3:00pm
Looks like the most popular BH rubber is: "unknown"
Where can i get a sheet?
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Posted By: saif
Date Posted: 05/14/2010 at 12:13pm
Doesn't Zhang Jike use Bryce speed in his backhand? I've always known it but can't confirm the source now.
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Posted By: Kaoendry
Date Posted: 05/14/2010 at 3:45pm
I was watching some videos on dttl , anyone know why Timo is using red rubber on his FH?
He changed his rubbers? Kishikawa now uses red rubber on his FH too, in smash he change to black side to smash.
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Posted By: timoboll89
Date Posted: 05/14/2010 at 3:57pm
because now there isn't disponibility of black tenergies of a certain weight...timo wrote on his site
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Posted By: Leshxa
Date Posted: 05/14/2010 at 10:58pm
Would this be too much to ask to list thickness of the sponge if known?
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Posted By: dauntless
Date Posted: 05/15/2010 at 1:32am
timoboll89 wrote:
because now there isn't disponibility of black tenergies of a certain weight...timo wrote on his site |
disponibility = availibilty
He is saying there aren't any blk t05 of a certain weight. I wonder what weight he is looking for... and gets!
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Posted By: IceObsession
Date Posted: 05/15/2010 at 9:07am
Pavlovich, Viktoria (BLR) Defence Alpha Tenergy 05 1,7 mm Feint Long III
Stefanova, Nikoleta (ITA) Korbel SK7 (FL) Tenergy 05 2,1 mm Tenergy 05 2,1 mm
Tie Yana (HKG) Special Made Tenergy 05 2,1 mm Tenergy 05 2,1 mm
Toth, Krisztina (HUN) Tenergy 64 2,1 mm Tenergy 64 2,1 mm
Gao Jun (USA) Matsush*ta Pro CS Butterfly Challenger Attack
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BH: TSP Spectol 21
Blade: TSP Limban Offensive(FL)
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Posted By: Pushblocker
Date Posted: 05/17/2010 at 3:17pm
Actually, Werner Schlager's blade is actually a Primorac Carbon blade with Schalger Carbon handles
Before Butterfly made the Schlager Carbon, Werner was playing the Primorac Carbon. In order for the Schlager Carbon to be different from the Primorac Carbon, Butterfly produced the Schlager Carbon blade with a slightly thicker inner ply. This of course brought the weight up. Werner likes his blades to be exactly 91 grams and the Primorac Carbon is exactly 91 grams while the Schlager Carbon is 95 - 96 grams. So, in order for him to play with a blade with his name on, they actually put Schlager Carbon handles on a Primorac Carbon for him..
For someone at a sub world class level, I doubt that they would even notice the difference between the Primorac an Schlager Carbon blade.. They are basically identical except for the inner ply which is only slightly thicker on the Schlager Carbon.. He does NOT have a special made blade (other than the handle with his name).. It actually is a off the shelf Primorac Carbon with only the handle being difference.. His rubbers (Tenergy 05) are also off the shelf Tenergy 05 rubbers..
------------- 2010 Florida State Champion
Dr. Neubauer Firewall Plus Blade with DHS G666 1.5mm on forehand Giant Dragon Talon National Team OX on backhand
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Posted By: ChichoFicho
Date Posted: 05/18/2010 at 12:28pm
How about Jian Sun?
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Posted By: Stavros
Date Posted: 05/18/2010 at 1:49pm
Pushblocker wrote:
Actually, Werner Schlager's blade is actually a Primorac Carbon blade with Schalger Carbon handles
Before Butterfly made the Schlager Carbon, Werner was playing the Primorac Carbon. In order for the Schlager Carbon to be different from the Primorac Carbon, Butterfly produced the Schlager Carbon blade with a slightly thicker inner ply. This of course brought the weight up. Werner likes his blades to be exactly 91 grams and the Primorac Carbon is exactly 91 grams while the Schlager Carbon is 95 - 96 grams. So, in order for him to play with a blade with his name on, they actually put Schlager Carbon handles on a Primorac Carbon for him..
For someone at a sub world class level, I doubt that they would even notice the difference between the Primorac an Schlager Carbon blade.. They are basically identical except for the inner ply which is only slightly thicker on the Schlager Carbon.. He does NOT have a special made blade (other than the handle with his name).. It actually is a off the shelf Primorac Carbon with only the handle being difference.. His rubbers (Tenergy 05) are also off the shelf Tenergy 05 rubbers.. |
Interesting, Pushblocker, how do you know all these things about Schlager?
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Posted By: mjamja
Date Posted: 05/18/2010 at 2:40pm
He kidnapped Schlager and forced Werner to play TT in his garage.
See http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31114&KW - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31114&KW =
Actually if you read through the thread you will find they were school friends at a young age and Schalger stopped to visit Pushblocker for a few days when he came to the US for a Killerspin event.
Mark
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Posted By: Stavros
Date Posted: 05/19/2010 at 3:20pm
Butterfly claims that uses Primorac Carbon, Tenergy 05 and Tenergy 64. Do you know which Tenergy uses on f/h?
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Edit: I moved this in from a separate thread. The question was about Daniela Dodean.
-Schlager
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Posted By: tokold
Date Posted: 05/19/2010 at 4:09pm
I've talked to her doubles partner, Elizabeta Samara and said she plays with Tenergy 64 both sides on a Primorac carbon.
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Posted By: Stavros
Date Posted: 05/19/2010 at 4:30pm
mjamja wrote:
He kidnapped Schlager and forced Werner to play TT in his garage.
See http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31114&KW - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31114&KW =
Actually if you read through the thread you will find they were school friends at a young age and Schalger stopped to visit Pushblocker for a few days when he came to the US for a Killerspin event.
Mark |
Yes I see. So Werner Schlager plays Primorac Carbon with Schlager handle.
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Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 05/19/2010 at 5:35pm
I have changed Zhang Jike's bh to Bryce Speed. I'm also pretty certain that's what he uses, but I can't remember where I saw it.
Pushblocker: That was a really interesting read! It's always fun with some inside info, and especially when it's about the player that really started my interest for TT about 7 years ago! (I have the DVD's from the 2003 WTTC and watch them whenever I get a bit tired of TT. Schlager was simply amazing through the whole tournament!)
IceObsession: Again, thank you so much!
Updated the first post with more female players!
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Posted By: tpgh2k
Date Posted: 05/19/2010 at 5:40pm
i thought he used t64 now....you could see it in those close up pictures...or at least some kind of tenergy.
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H3 Blue Sponge Black FH
Tenergy 64 Red BH
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Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 05/19/2010 at 5:57pm
You are absolutely right..
The picture showing a white sponge and a BTY logo was old, and all pictures from the ITTF from 2010 shows an orange/red sponge.
Tenergy 64 is more likely than both 05 and 25, so I'll put down T64.
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Rubbers: Bluefire M2 2.0
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Posted By: Stavros
Date Posted: 05/19/2010 at 6:56pm
tokold wrote:
I've talked to her doubles partner, Elizabeta Samara and said she plays with Tenergy 64 both sides on a Primorac carbon. |
Hi Dennis, You are not talking too much, 4 posts in 6 years !
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Posted By: tokold
Date Posted: 05/19/2010 at 7:01pm
Well, been kind of busy and I just happened to be asking Elizabeta the same question about a month ago.
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Posted By: shaolinTT
Date Posted: 05/19/2010 at 7:03pm
Does anyone know what set up (CPen) Wang Jian Jun has. (His previous JPen set up was probably a clone of RSM's)
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Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 05/19/2010 at 7:25pm
He uses a Yasaka Ma Lin Extra Offensive with Tenergy of some sort on his fh (probably 05) and some orange or orange/red sponged rubber on his bh..
------------- Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST
Rubbers: Bluefire M2 2.0
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Posted By: Pushblocker
Date Posted: 05/19/2010 at 8:51pm
Stavros wrote:
Interesting, Pushblocker, how do you know all these things about Schlager?
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Werner and I have been best friends since High School.. I grew up in Austria and moved to the US 13 years ago.. Werner was visiting me in December before he went up to Chicago to play at the Spinvitational. When we played in my garage, I asked him if he played a off the shelf Schlager Carbon and he told me that it's a off the shelf Primorac Carbon with a Schlager handle and that the difference between both blades is that the center ply is thicker on the Schlager Carbon and that this brings the weight to 95 - 96 grams and that he likes his blades exactly 91 grams.
------------- 2010 Florida State Champion
Dr. Neubauer Firewall Plus Blade with DHS G666 1.5mm on forehand Giant Dragon Talon National Team OX on backhand
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Posted By: Pushblocker
Date Posted: 05/19/2010 at 8:54pm
Schlager wrote:
I have changed Zhang Jike's bh to Bryce Speed. I'm also pretty certain that's what he uses, but I can't remember where I saw it.
Pushblocker: That was a really interesting read! It's always fun with some inside info, and especially when it's about the player that really started my interest for TT about 7 years ago! (I have the DVD's from the 2003 WTTC and watch them whenever I get a bit tired of TT. Schlager was simply amazing through the whole tournament!)
IceObsession: Again, thank you so much!
Updated the first post with more female players!
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I was actually surprised when he told me that it was actually basically a off the shelf blade (even though not really a Schlager Carbon).. I know that he would have the option that Butterfly makes a blade specifically for him. Some Pro's do NOT play off the shelf blades like Werner does. His blade (except for the grip) is no different than what anybody else plays if they get a Primorac Carbon from Butterfly.. Again, the difference to the Schlager Carbon is mostly the extra weight. Most Pro's are VERY specific when it comes to blade weight..
------------- 2010 Florida State Champion
Dr. Neubauer Firewall Plus Blade with DHS G666 1.5mm on forehand Giant Dragon Talon National Team OX on backhand
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Posted By: Stavros
Date Posted: 05/20/2010 at 5:33am
Congratulations to Butterfly for its quality control. Even Werner Schlager uses commercial Butterfly products, off the shelf.
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Posted By: Pushblocker
Date Posted: 05/20/2010 at 12:49pm
Stavros wrote:
Congratulations to Butterfly for its quality control. Even Werner Schlager uses commercial Butterfly products, off the shelf. |
I've used Butterfly blades and long pips rubbers before and the long pips lasted for 10 years.. Long Pips of other brands often start losing pips after 20 - 30 hours of play.. Butterfly definetely makes quality products! I also have pretty good experience with TSP products. Japanese quality is definetely better than chinese quality.. However, you can buy a lot more chinese equipment for the same money than japanese equipment..
Too bad that Butterfly doesn't make a slow long pips blocking rubber.. Their long pips are more geared towards choppers and not blockers..
------------- 2010 Florida State Champion
Dr. Neubauer Firewall Plus Blade with DHS G666 1.5mm on forehand Giant Dragon Talon National Team OX on backhand
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Posted By: Stavros
Date Posted: 05/20/2010 at 2:05pm
I'm impressed by member_profile.asp?PF=10328&FID=24 - Schlager 's dedication to this Topic. Very good administration.
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Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 05/20/2010 at 3:11pm
Good to hear, Stavros :)
It might take a day or two for me to update the list right now. Got both moving and exams going on right now, but I'll try my best to keep it up!
Does anyone know which blade Christian S�ss is using btw? And if he has changed his Tenergy's?
------------- Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST
Rubbers: Bluefire M2 2.0
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Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 05/26/2010 at 4:52pm
Any spottings from Moscow?
I think I saw some Tenergy looking sponge on Tugwell's racket, and a Clipper of some sort on Smirnov's racket.
------------- Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST
Rubbers: Bluefire M2 2.0
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Posted By: stepheN
Date Posted: 05/26/2010 at 6:43pm
afaik S�ss plays with a Boll Spirit, rubbers are still Tenergy05.
Ovtcharov's black (forehand) rubber is a tenergy aswell (didnt see exactly which one), his red bh rubber is a donic. when he is smashing the ball, he is changing to his red rubber!
smirnov with clipper + 2x Tenergy, got a picture from the ittf screen when his racket was laying on the table, you could see the tenergy sponge.
timo still with tenergy and alc but probably not that happy right now: after missing a shot vs. mizutani in the 5th set (the point from 8:7 to 8:8) he is shouting "Schei� Bel�ge" -> "f*cking rubbers"
if you watched the complete game, you could see him often looking to his (mostly fh-) rubber after missing a shot again...
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Posted By: AllezCho
Date Posted: 05/26/2010 at 11:45pm
From Moscow, Petr Korbel seems to have switched back to his old Korbel OFF (5-ply) blade and uses some kind of Tenergy on both sides. I'm assuming its T05 since that was what he used before.
From the Moscow discussion thread, courtesy of member AMontiero:
AMonteiro wrote:
Looks like Korbel is back to his trusty 5ply blade instead of Korbel SK7
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Posted By: martu35
Date Posted: 05/27/2010 at 6:37am
do you know skachkov's rubber?blade?
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Posted By: lild100
Date Posted: 05/29/2010 at 5:42pm
What rubber does Dimitrij Ovtcharov use on the backhand guys?? any pics
Thanks
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Posted By: Dafydd393
Date Posted: 05/29/2010 at 6:12pm
Pretty sure he was using Donic Coppa Speed although he may have moved onto one of their new rubbers, Acuda perhaps?
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Fh - Boost TC 2.0mm
Bh - Boost TC 2.0mm
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Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 05/30/2010 at 8:47am
stepheN wrote:
afaik S�ss plays with a Boll Spirit, rubbers are still Tenergy05.
Ovtcharov's black (forehand) rubber is a tenergy aswell (didnt see exactly which one), his red bh rubber is a donic. when he is smashing the ball, he is changing to his red rubber!
smirnov with clipper + 2x Tenergy, got a picture from the ittf screen when his racket was laying on the table, you could see the tenergy sponge.
timo still with tenergy and alc but probably not that happy right now: after missing a shot vs. mizutani in the 5th set (the point from 8:7 to 8:8) he is shouting "Schei� Bel�ge" -> "f*cking rubbers"
if you watched the complete game, you could see him often looking to his (mostly fh-) rubber after missing a shot again...
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do you know the set up of wu jiaduo,patrick franziska,floritz?
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Posted By: hut8
Date Posted: 05/30/2010 at 4:28pm
Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 05/31/2010 at 1:22am
tsp ludeack + tyrano pips
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Posted By: Ryu_S_M
Date Posted: 05/31/2010 at 3:06am
martu35 wrote:
do you know skachkov's rubber?blade?
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I am not sure but I think he is using nittaku accoustic and some kind of tenergies
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Fh: Donic JO Coppa Platin
Bh: Donic JO Coppa Platin
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Posted By: stepheN
Date Posted: 05/31/2010 at 3:51am
bbkon wrote:
do you know the set up of wu jiaduo,patrick franziska,floritz? |
Patrick Franziska: Boll ALC with 2x Tenergy05 Philipp Floritz: blade is switching between various old Stigas: Hornet/Mellis/Ehrlich, Grip-S or Genius (he used to use Genius, but there are guys who say he is playing Grip-S, cant tell for sure)
i dont know what wu jiaduo is playing, sorry.
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Posted By: netskater
Date Posted: 05/31/2010 at 4:24am
Feng Tianwei`s blade is Stiga Tube Carbo.
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Posted By: Re1Mu2R3
Date Posted: 05/31/2010 at 4:31am
netskater wrote:
Feng Tianwei`s blade is Stiga Tube Carbo.
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In the Ding Ning x Feng Tianwei video, there was a Tube Carbo and Ebenholz on the table. Don't know which belonged to Feng though. The Stiga website says Feng uses Ebenholz. Not sure though...
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Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 05/31/2010 at 6:22am
Feng Tianwei was using the Tube Carbo!
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Rubbers: Bluefire M2 2.0
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Posted By: Re1Mu2R3
Date Posted: 05/31/2010 at 6:35am
Schlager wrote:
Feng Tianwei was using the Tube Carbo!
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Thanks!
------------- How to play Table Tennis: #1. Be Chinese (Ethnicity) #2. Be Chinese(Citizenship) #3. BE CHINESE(In Heart, Mind and Spirit) #4: Get a Chinese Coach #5. Get a Chinese Forehand Rubber (Black)
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Posted By: Ciprian
Date Posted: 05/31/2010 at 11:46am
stepheN wrote:
afaik S�ss plays with a Boll Spirit, rubbers are still Tenergy05.
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Doesn't he use an Andro blade? From what I saw at this WTTC he wasn't playing with Boll Spirit. Maybe I'm wrong?!
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Posted By: LOOPMEISTER
Date Posted: 05/31/2010 at 12:09pm
stepheN wrote:
afaik S�ss plays with a Boll Spirit, rubbers are still Tenergy05.
Ovtcharov's black (forehand) rubber is a tenergy aswell (didnt see exactly which one), his red bh rubber is a donic. when he is smashing the ball, he is changing to his red rubber!
smirnov with clipper + 2x Tenergy, got a picture from the ittf screen when his racket was laying on the table, you could see the tenergy sponge.
timo still with tenergy and alc but probably not that happy right now: after missing a shot vs. mizutani in the 5th set (the point from 8:7 to 8:8) he is shouting "Schei� Bel�ge" -> "f*cking rubbers"
if you watched the complete game, you could see him often looking to his (mostly fh-) rubber after missing a shot again...
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"sh*tty rubbers!"?
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Posted By: le xex
Date Posted: 05/31/2010 at 12:30pm
was timo still using tenergy 05 on the black side? The sponge on the black seemed different than that on the red side, and he was using red for his FH...maybe he gave t05 fx a shot?
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Posted By: Hughes
Date Posted: 05/31/2010 at 1:04pm
Is there an online catalog for this equipment. I'll keep looking around here. Thanks.
Jordan.
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Posted By: Stavros
Date Posted: 05/31/2010 at 2:47pm
le xex wrote:
was timo still using tenergy 05 on the black side? The sponge on the black seemed different than that on the red side, and he was using red for his FH...maybe he gave t05 fx a shot? |
Look at 10:07 minute against Ma Long. Timo's black rubber is definitely not T05. The sponge is like Bryce Speed's or similar or something else. What's the sponge color of T05 FX?
------------- Blade: Stiga Infinity FH: Dignics 80 BH: Dignics 05
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Posted By: Ryu_S_M
Date Posted: 05/31/2010 at 2:57pm
Ciprian wrote:
stepheN wrote:
afaik S�ss plays with a Boll Spirit, rubbers are still Tenergy05.
| Doesn't he use� an Andro blade? From what I saw at this WTTC he wasn't playing� with Boll Spirit. Maybe I'm wrong?! |
no, I'm also saw some kind of andro handle in this wttc
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Fh: Donic JO Coppa Platin
Bh: Donic JO Coppa Platin
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Posted By: patrick1v
Date Posted: 05/31/2010 at 3:01pm
he still uses the supercore kinetic off+ blade recognizable by the handle
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Posted By: thewook82
Date Posted: 06/01/2010 at 2:49pm
Pushblocker wrote:
Stavros wrote:
Congratulations to Butterfly for its quality control. Even Werner Schlager uses commercial Butterfly products, off the shelf. |
I've used Butterfly blades and long pips rubbers before and the long pips lasted for 10 years.. Long Pips of other brands often start losing pips after 20 - 30 hours of play.. Butterfly definetely makes quality products! I also have pretty good experience with TSP products. Japanese quality is definetely better than chinese quality.. However, you can buy a lot more chinese equipment for the same money than japanese equipment..
Too bad that Butterfly doesn't make a slow long pips blocking rubber.. Their long pips are more geared towards choppers and not blockers.. |
Have you tried Donic Akkadi? Don't know much about it other than that Fabian Akerstrom (World's top frictionless long pimple players) is using that rubber. Not as good as the old Hallmark Original rubber (of course!) he used to use but he did say that he'd been using the same rubber for over a year... I remember the old ones randomly losing pips pretty quickly.
I did some filming with him at the Worlds Champs that just finished and I'll be making some videos in the not too distant future.
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Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 06/02/2010 at 1:23am
Re1Mu2R3 wrote:
Schlager wrote:
Feng Tianwei was using the Tube Carbo! |
Thanks!
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feng plays with stiga kevlar!!! and the rubbers of boll are not the same prolly bryce in bh
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Posted By: DreiZ
Date Posted: 06/02/2010 at 1:25am
bbkon wrote:
Re1Mu2R3 wrote:
Schlager wrote:
Feng Tianwei was using the Tube Carbo! |
Thanks!
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feng plays with stiga kevlar!!! and the rubbers of boll are not the same prolly bryce in bh |
if ur talking about timo boll then im pretty sure he uses t05 on both sides, maybe t05fx on bh...
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Posted By: chain_05
Date Posted: 06/02/2010 at 1:50am
bbkon wrote:
tsp ludeack + tyrano pips |
on match final wttc 2010 : Blade look like Donic sawtech
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Firefall
FH : Mantra H BH: Razanter R50
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Posted By: Stavros
Date Posted: 06/02/2010 at 3:49am
DreiZ wrote:
bbkon wrote:
Re1Mu2R3 wrote:
Schlager wrote:
Feng Tianwei was using the Tube Carbo! |
Thanks!
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feng plays with stiga kevlar!!! and the rubbers of boll are not the same prolly bryce in bh |
if ur talking about timo boll then im pretty sure he uses t05 on both sides, maybe t05fx on bh...
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One sponge is red (Tenergy) and the other is not red. How can you say that are both Tenergys?
------------- Blade: Stiga Infinity FH: Dignics 80 BH: Dignics 05
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Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 06/02/2010 at 6:17am
Stavros wrote:
DreiZ wrote:
bbkon wrote:
Re1Mu2R3 wrote:
Schlager wrote:
Feng Tianwei was using the Tube Carbo! |
Thanks!
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feng plays with stiga kevlar!!! and the rubbers of boll are not the same prolly bryce in bh |
if ur talking about timo boll then im pretty sure he uses t05 on both sides, maybe t05fx on bh...
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One sponge is red (Tenergy) and the other is not red. How can you say that are both Tenergys?
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Those sponges looks like the same color to me.. (btw, boll's racket is the one to the right, not to be confused with the TBS to the left)
Feng Tianwei at the 2010 WTTTC:
Edit: Picture by courtesy of the ITTF.
She has used the Stiga Kevlar for some time, but this looks more like a tube carbo to me! There is a better view of it in the match against Ding Ning, as mentioned earlier!
------------- Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST
Rubbers: Bluefire M2 2.0
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Posted By: Stavros
Date Posted: 06/02/2010 at 6:52am
Schlager wrote:
Stavros wrote:
DreiZ wrote:
bbkon wrote:
Re1Mu2R3 wrote:
Schlager wrote:
Feng Tianwei was using the Tube Carbo! |
Thanks!
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feng plays with stiga kevlar!!! and the rubbers of boll are not the same prolly bryce in bh |
if ur talking about timo boll then im pretty sure he uses t05 on both sides, maybe t05fx on bh...
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One sponge is red (Tenergy) and the other is not red. How can you say that are both Tenergys?
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Those sponges looks like the same color to me.. (btw, boll's racket is the one to the right, not to be confused with the TBS to the left)
Feng Tianwei at the 2010 WTTTC:
Edit: Picture by courtesy of the ITTF.
She has used the Stiga Kevlar for some time, but this looks more like a tube carbo to me! There is a better view of it in the match against Ding Ning, as mentioned earlier!
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OK, you're right, I was looking to TBS instead of ALC. Sorry!
------------- Blade: Stiga Infinity FH: Dignics 80 BH: Dignics 05
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Posted By: chain_05
Date Posted: 06/02/2010 at 7:47am
Posted By: TBS9x
Date Posted: 06/02/2010 at 3:41pm
1) I saw Feng Tianwei using some Stiga blade with the '' Tube '' written on the handle during the match. 2) Why do the players have to be so specific about the weight of the blade? Lighter = thinner = slower and more vibration and vice versa? And for example, does a 92gr blade feel different from a 91gr? I'm really curious in these things because weight has never been one of my real concern ( unless I can feel it's too heavy XD )
------------- Blade: Joo Se Hyuk
Stiga Boost TC
Tibhar Grass Dtecs 1.6mm
Video: - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u-p2VHaiDk
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7bHoFRj_oU
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYnqlW
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Posted By: DreiZ
Date Posted: 06/05/2010 at 1:44pm
looks like Liu Shiwen is using korbel fl... anyone knows wat rubber she uses?
------------- Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC 85g FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm USATT: 1725
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Posted By: Re1Mu2R3
Date Posted: 06/05/2010 at 2:01pm
TBS9x wrote:
...2) Why do the players have to be so specific about the weight of the blade?...does a 92gr blade feel different from a 91gr?
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------------- How to play Table Tennis: #1. Be Chinese (Ethnicity) #2. Be Chinese(Citizenship) #3. BE CHINESE(In Heart, Mind and Spirit) #4: Get a Chinese Coach #5. Get a Chinese Forehand Rubber (Black)
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