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Stiga Calibra LT is very good |
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Tinykin_2
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Difference in cutting blade maybe?
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I'm getting two sheets of Calibra LT MAX. Any recommendations on to what blade to put them on? Choices are: TBS, Korbel, YEO, or MLC.
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No, everything is exactly as it was. Even the knife is the same one.
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scdit46
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I use Tenergy 05 on FH in my Nittaku Acoustic.
I want a bit harder rubber than T05. Calibra LT Plus is a good choice? |
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Maybe T25 is worth a try if you want a harder T05.
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When will butterfly release T05 Hard?
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The T25 I don´t like.
Calibra LT Plus is harder than T25? |
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Sorry for reviving an old topic, but I was interested in this part. After experimenting it seems to me that dwell time can be increased as much as you like, by switching to a more flexible blade. So my question is: do you think with a more flexible blade you could replace your T05, keeping the same dwell time of the spring sponge you are used to? Have you ever tried? |
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Some rubbers do not work well with some blades.
Calibra LT is one of them. it seems to shine on stiff BTY blades, but not the flexy Nexy blades. (Hey, that rhimes) (I works uber-cool on the Nexy Oscar though.)
T05 can work well on about any blade. EDIT: So does Tibhar Aurus. Edited by BH-Man - 02/09/2012 at 9:40am |
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Just curious: in what way does it not work on nexy blades? Are these blades soft or hard (apart from being flexy)? |
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Rakza on hyper flexy blade is equal or more than T on common blade (as 4 me)
I gonna try T05 on it ....It gonna be absolute looping machine
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Opening loop sucked rocks on Sparticus + Calibra LT. No feel, hard to place.
In contrast, Nexy Sparticus with T05 or Aurus on FH wing was simply a BEAST good combo. You could do everything with either rubber on that blade.
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update: i have now switched to calibra LT and I find it better than tenergy 05 in all respects. Calibra LT is more "deadly"; in particular counterlooping is much easier due to the lower throw and lower spin sensitivity; and the opening loop has much more penetration.
I think the reason why T05 is so widespread is that it has good spin and that it makes it easy to lift backspin; but once your skills are beyond a certain point, I think speed oriented rubbers like calibra lt become much more effective; spinny opening loops are useless with good players, while fast counterloops are very important, as are fast opening loops. Also service receive is difficult with t05 due to the high sensitivity. not so with Calibra. PS: I find calibra plays great on both flexible hard wooden blades such as Stiga OCR and stiff medium-soft carbon blades such as Dawei Wavestone. Not blade-dependent at all. Edited by seguso - 03/03/2012 at 4:54am |
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Agree. On stiff blades though, Calibra Spin perform better. On Ebenholz NCT 7 the feeling of Calibra LT Spin is better than Calibra LT.
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I am considering Calibra Spin on bh. I will glue it tomorrow on my wavestone. It is unlikely I will use it on fh as I think I've found the perfect rubber for fh in calibra lt regular.
Edited by seguso - 03/03/2012 at 5:45am |
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For who's interested I reviewed Calibra LT at tabletennisdb.
Edited by seguso - 03/03/2012 at 5:48am |
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glued calibra lt plus on my forehand. it really is fast, but coming from desto f1, its quite heavy
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What do you mean with "glued"? Do you mean VOC glued? All Calibras are extremely good with VOC normal glue.
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oh no no no, i meant i just glued it to my paddle, no voc or speed glue or any of those stuff, just normal glue... |
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Calibra LT simply sucked sorry rocks on a flexy blade I tried it on, yet totally rocked on a stiff blade (TBS) that out of having nothing else but Elmers Rubber Cement worked just fine up to two months later of daily play.
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Today I put calibra lt spin on backhand. On forehand I have calibra lt regular. I tried this combo on two blades: one carbon (dawei wavestone) and one wood (dhs pg3). I guarantee that calibra SPIN is slower than calibra lt, both in the top gear and in every other gear; OTOH it is capable of producing a shorter arc when brushing. This is useful for backhand flip.
What the guys at Stiga were thinking: "calibra LT (long trajectory) has too long a trajectory, so let's make a rubber with a shorter long trajectory." |
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Agreed. Calibra LT on a stiffer blade like the TBS was much more linear and predictable (although extremely fast ). In contrast, I felt a lack of stability when using it on flexier blades. Stiff--> lack of control because it is too fast, Flexy--> lack of control because of a lack of predictability and linearity.
Interesting. So, in your opinion, do you think Calibra Spin is the highest throw rubber in the series?
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No wait. I didn't say that. Throw is exactly the same. I could twiddle the blade without problems, I only felt a decrease in speed. The only difference is that the spin version is slower and can produce a shorter arc when brushing. |
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Maybe the significant speed difference you feel is because of LT Spin being a new sheet. All new generation Stiga rubbers need some break-in and after that they become faster, spinnier etc. Though there should be a bit of difference in speed.
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that its true, both of my calibra's are spinnier now than they were when new also the lt plus is a speed monster
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I see. Thanks for the info!
Yep, and the sponge gets noticeably softer after break-in, resulting in an increase of speed/mechanical spin.
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EPIC FAIL
Calibra lt spin removed from bh, after 2 days trial. Way too springy for my skill on bh, even on wood (dhs pg3). went back to vega pro. I won't kill with bh, but at least I can block, punch and sidespin flip, and open short balls safely. Edited by seguso - 03/07/2012 at 5:23am |
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to be clear, the speed difference between spin and regular is not much, but it is clearly noticeable. lt spin is still very fast, so much that I removed it from bh, as I said above. :) I have no doubt lt spin is clearly a fh rubber, and a fast one at that. I do know someone who uses it on bh (on ebenholz), but he is like the second best player in the country under 14. Edited by seguso - 03/07/2012 at 3:09am |
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I also know many low or high division pros in my country using regular LT on BH/FH on Rosewood 7 blades. Far too powerful setup for me though.
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I think Calibra Spin is clearly a F/H rubber because of the higher throw angle and the bigger dwell time. This makes it bad B/H rubber. The other Calibras are not bad for B/H but they are very fast for my taste.
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