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Baal
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Definitely true there. But the topsheet is quite grippy so that the speed/spin ratio is not bad and you will be able to have enough topspin to control the speed. This is not true with some other new rubbers I have tried. But Calibra is not a spin monster like T05. I also think that the properties of the topsheet in terms of grip on the ball are somewhat like Boost series. The one thing I am still a bit worried about it is how I will play with it over the table. I need to use it more myself. |
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High_Arc
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What's the thickness of your red 64 gr Calibra? |
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interesting.... 'cause on its' speed rating calibra lt is 177 and sound is 175... will consider buying this rubber ... hopefully soon.. thanks for the reviews... Edited by vader555 - 09/08/2010 at 6:35am |
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Both are in Max the red one is Calibra LT and the black one is the Sound. After a few sessions playing i came to the conclusion that this is not my rubber. I is a sort of upgrade for the boost rubbers. LT Sound plays like Boost TC but with more sound and a little faster. It's an easy and forgiving playing rubber. Blocking and topspin is very easy but the effect is the same as the boost TC/TS, unfortunatily there is also almost no arc when looping. If you like soft rubbers like Boost TC/TS, nimbus sound/soft, desto F3 big slam or other soft tensor rubbers with sound, the Calibra LT Sound is your rubber. The topsheet seems also very durable like the Boost series and the sponge seems stronger build. This rubber is not a tenergy replacement About the Calibra LT i will be short: This rubber plays between Boost TX and Boost TP, you must perform you're strokes well the get the best out of this rubber, this rubber is less forgiving. There is only a little bit sound.
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patrick1v
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why would i want to play with something to replace tenergy no thanks don't like tenergy too heavy and i don't need this rubber to generate a lot of spin.btw Calibra LT sound is nothing like tc, it is a bit softer and quite a bit louder and about the same speed as Tc when tc is boosted. have tried all three tenergy cannot figure out what the big deal is about these rubbers 05fx i found too heavy and too slow.and for $65 this is a waste of money.
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I have tried this Calibra LT Sound and i liked it a lot, though it wasn´t my type. Way faster than tenergy, not as soft as expected but much lighter than Tenergys, loud sound but not as spinny. It´s the lowerst arc pips-in rubber i´ve ever tried, ball travels almost straight. At the beggining its a little weird coz you have to adapt you bat-angle with some strokes, specially pushing, but once mastered it´s pretty forgiving.
I really would recommend it for BH-Pushers. |
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bh pushers? you mean pusher as in chopper? a pusher would be better of with something slow and very spinny.
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tomas.gt
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I cant get it as well. Furthermore, what is forgiving about extreme low arc? Just be little bit late and you are in deep...trouble.
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JKC
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This is a high throw rubber. Off the table it is better than Tenergy IMO as it has just as much spin when you hit harder and the extra speed means you can play more deliberate strokes with less effort. I was asked if I had glued up last night as the sound is so impressive though my rubber is neither glued nor boosted.
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speaquinox
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I think the throw is still low compared to latest Tensors or any Tenergy. I tried it (Calibra LT) today, but it was not as good as I expected. It's fast and it's spinny when hit hard but spin is not good during slower strokes. This is always the best attribute for Tenergy, producing spin with little movement. This is just after a 1,5 hour session, so it may change later if I decide to keep it on my bat. BTW, Boost rubbers were always a bit dead when new but they got much better after a couple of weeks. I wonder whether this does apply to Calibra as well.
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Baal
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I agree with this. I still prefer T05. But it if didn't exist, I would use Calibra LT. |
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JKC
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Still getting on well with the Calibra LT. Probably over 30 hours of play in the month since I got the rubber. You can tell by looking at the rubber that is has been used now. There is quite a scuff where my thumb goes on the red rubber though not much of a mark where my finger goes on the black rubber. If you look very carefully just after cleaning, you can see the very beginnings of wear in the middle of the rubber where I hit the ball often. I do tend to wear rubbers out quickly though due to my spinny loops so this one is doing well - Tenergy was at this stage maybe 5-10 hours earlier. Players who drive the ball rather than looping will probably find that it takes quite a bit longer to reach this stage of wear though.
It took a while to reach its peak (maybe 5-10 hours), but it still seems to be performing at its best as far as I can tell. It still has a fantastic ping when you really put bat to ball and I am starting to work out how to get Tenergy-like spin from it on opening loops.
Just waiting now to see if there will be a drop off in performance as the rubber starts to wear more. Of course I'll keep you informed as and when that happens.
To boost my Adsense Account, I might just make a service video with it when I get time.
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I played again Calibra LT sound yesterday. Slightly faster than Boost series, very good sound. Good for counter drives and loops. It looks durable. Not so spiny as Tenergy of course but overall very good rubber.
Calibra LT sound is a softer and updated version of TX. Some say that it plays similar to TC but I disagree. TC is a classic looping rubber. The hardness of LTsound is similar to TC but the playing characteristics are similar to TX. The performance was consistent. I think it is very good rubber, similar but not alternative to Tenergy 64. LTsound it's lighter and it doesn't shrinks like Tenergys, though. |
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Regular LT was probably the hardest (to play) rubber I've tried. Even after couple of hours, I couldn't feel the bat. It has amazing power but I couldn't figure out the racket angles and "click". Needs more time I guess.
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calibra sound Lt is quite grippy((not as girppy as boost series), the speed is more than t64 this is using the same blade which i have tested! alot of my friends from the same club tried the calibra sound LT and they really like it compared to t64.
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High_Arc
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I've seen quite some local top players switch from T05/64 to Calibra (and Vega Pro and Omega 4 Pro). Local top players means that they are ranked in the top 20 of Switzerland, which is pretty low level compared to the top players of other countries (probably comparable to the US I guess without wanting to offend anyone), but most likely extremely high level for the standards on MYTT. I'm currently ranked 69 in Switzerland (was 44 some weeks ago), probably around 2300 USATT rating.
So I could not resist the temptation (after also reading Baal's and other peoples review on MYTT) to give this rubber a shot. I bought a black sheet of Calibra LT (max) and a red sheet of Calibra LT Sound (max) and glued them on a spare blade (Viscaria). I asked for a heavy Calibra LT and got a rubber which weights uncut 66 gr, and a medium heavy sheet of Calibra LT Sound (59 gr uncut). First I must say that it is great fun to play with these rubbers, good sound, impressing catapult and reasonable feeling for the short game. Besides that statement, I can in principle only repeat what Baal said (if I remember correctly) in my own words. Claibra LT: The rubber has a orange non porous sponge and is medium hard (mine is perhaps a tad harder than an average T05). The rubber has an extremely grippy topsheet (it is certainly much harder to tear a ball across the rubber surface as compared to a T05), which is ideal for serves loaded with spin. I certainly get more spin from the top sheet than with a T05, where the sponge needs to work a bit to get that tremendous spin. The Calibra LT is very very fast, notably faster than a T05, in every aspect. It has a medium high throw, enough to easily loop bottom spin. When the sponge is just involved weakly in the shot, then the rubber is a bit tricky to handle I guess. It asks for proper strokes, then it generates extreme speed and hilarious spin. In fact, during warm up looping and counter looping, my opponents had serious troubles to handle the amount of spin that I generated. Overall it is a bit less spinny than a T05 when not used properly, but also less sensitive to incoming spin. Summarizing my impressions, I honestly think that the Calibra LT is overall at the level of a T05, a bit better in some respects, a bit worse in others. However, it needs some skills to get the impression that you can to some extent unleash its potential (in contrast to a T05, where everybody can generate loads of spin (but doesn't realize that he's suffering more due to the rubber than he's actually gaining)). Calibra LT Sound: The top sheet is the same as for the Calibra LT, but the sponge is notably softer. The rubber is quite a bit slower compared to the non-sound version (somebody said something else on this forum, but I am very very sure of this statement), I think it is also slower than a T05/64 except for people with hmm rather weak strokes. Far off the table, it lacks some gears and the ball penetrates the blade too much for my liking. However, it is still a very fast rubber and it creates a lot of spin also when using small non proper strokes. Further, it gave me a very controlled impression, in particular when blocking, which can be a weak point of soft rubbers. Summarizing, I think the Calibra LT Sound is an extremely nice rubber for most players with a European technique, and it has a very loud and clear sound, which I really enjoyed. |
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JKC
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This rubber (Calibra) continues to impress me with its durability. 40-50 hours play and though the surface shows the initial signs of wear, it still plays beautifully. Fred has whacked his on the table a few times and there are no signs of any cracks or tears at all.
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High_Arc
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I glued this rubber on my JM and played with it today. I must say that I have never had such a ridiculously fast racket in my hand in my entire life, even in the times of speed glue!!!
I couldn't keep the ball on the table when doing simple forehand countering for warm up. Things were a bit better when looping, but I simply did not manage to do slow loops loaded with spin. I mean some loops were loaded with spin, but also incredibly fast. Besides the fact that I could not play slow loops, I had surprisingly little problem to handle the rubber in a training match. Even serves and the short game in general worked out just fine, which really surprised me considering my problems during warm up. The throw and trajectory of the Calibra LT are ideal for counter looping in my opinion, even close to the table. On the Viscaria, this rubber had manners, on the JM it is simply a beast. I will stick to my rubbers till the Christmas break (I think that it is more than three months with these rubbers by now, so I could perhaps add a heart icon), but will give the Calibra LT a serious chance in that break. Edited by High_Arc - 10/26/2010 at 5:08pm |
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i don't understand what's new 'conceptwise'?
its the same old story for all the rubbers from this factory (the japanese factory making stiga boost, coppa speed, cornellieu rubbers) ...
- they are incredibly speedy
- non porous sponge
- not heavy like tenergy or gen4 esn rubbers
- grippy topsheet which loses part of the grip soon...stilll have some
- not great for short game
- great for drives
what else? same DNA, new name .. this time 'calibra' ... !!! Edited by debraj - 10/26/2010 at 8:21pm |
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Baal
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The Calibra is really fast and it does take a bit of getting used to, but as with High_Arc I found that in matches it is pretty well behaved. For the rest of this year I will stick with T05 since I have several sheets in reserve. Once they are used up I will probably switch too. FWIW, a Swiss National team member named Christian Hotz played at a tournament in Houston summer of 2008 (which was won by Liu Song over Eugene Wang from Canada in the finals). The Swiss guy lost in the quarterfinals and ended up with a 2516 USATT rating, so Swiss level at the top end is a bit below top North American, since that would get you somewhere between 30 and 40 in the US at the moment (and the Canadians are stronger). In fact, the guy he beat in the round of 16 at deuce in the last game is currently US #34 (which I remember well, since the later is a friend of mine from Houston, now about 2502, and I watched the match). This Swiss fellow, very friendly young guy quite smooth style, was willing to hit around with just about anybody including idiots like me -- he ended up being completely and utterly destroyed by Shao Yu from New York City (11-3, 11-2, 11-9). Sadly, economics have caused that very nice tournament to be put on hold for the time being. We would always get at least a couple of world top 100 to show up for it since there was pretty decent prize money but the guy who put up the money is a real estate developer who has lost some money of late. Also, FWIW someone 44 in the US would be about 2450, someone 60 would be around 2400. All that to say that North American table tennis is not quite as pitiful as it sometimes seems. Almost but not quite. Acutally, among girls and women it is almost getting respectable. And also that High_Arc may well be better than 2300 assuming a comparable number of players in Switzerland as here, which actually does seem possible to me given club systems I have seen in Europe. |
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Agree.
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+1, Calibra LT is like an upgraded TX or TC. It's one of the fastest rubbers I've tried. |
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Nice to read the name of a Swiss guy in this thread! Seems like the North American is indeed a bit better at the top as compared to the Swiss. By the way, Hotz is currently ranked number 18 in Switzerland (best ranking ever around Nr. 10), but still one of the two members of the (male) Swiss National team. As you've stated it, he has a quite smooth style, and it is good fun to play against him because he doesn't have such lethal serves as many other players at his level (or a bit above) and not the fastest loops in the world. So you have quite a nice feeling when playing against him even when you loose. However, the last time I saw him he used T05 on forehand and Express (maybe Express 2) on the backhand. To name some examples, a guy who switched to Vega Pro is Michael Christe (Nr. 14) and a guy who switched to Calibra LT is Beat Staufer (around Nr. 30). If I'm not mistaken then the Nr. 1 Hu Jiashun is now using Vega Pro on the backhand and not T05 (at least the last time I saw him). Bit off topic, sorry for that, but I felt like I had to reply. |
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probably there is no new 'concept'. i have never used the coppa speed or cornilleau rubbers (the latter have a porous sponge by the way), but in my opinion the calibra lt is 'better' than the boost series in almost every aspect. considering the topsheet, i must repeat what many other have already said: it is very durable. moreover, on the viscaria the rubber had a very nice short game, for me personally easier to handle than a t05. on the mj, the short game suffered a bit but was still not a big issue. i can really recommend the calibra lt to people looking for a very fast rubber with great spin capabilities. |
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High Arc, mine was off topic too, but I thought you might find it interesting and also you pulled it back nicely to the subject of the thread. |
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I play with a Viscaria also. I can't imagine what Calibra LT must be like on a faster blade (although I gave my sheet away to a guy who plays with a Xiom Axelo, resulting in an overall setup that is absolutely insane-- but he likes it).
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I found it interesting indeed (and thanks for the info by the way). It's kind of funny that I don't find the MJ much faster than the Viscaria or the TBS when using T05 (have not used JM and Viscaria with T05 'simultaneously' but done so with the TBS and the JM). In fact, I even find the TBS a bit faster than the JM with T05 in average. I usually refrain from posting things which I find a bit awkward, but the difference between JM with Calibra and Viscaria with Calibra is so extremely obvious. (Side note: The JM has been my main blade since pretty much the ban of speed glue, and the Viscaria is the first blade which really makes it tempting for me to switch.) I'm somewhat disappointed that the rubber does not get more attention on this forum because as the title says 'Calibra LT is very good'. Whereas the Calibra LT is perhaps not ment for everybody, the Sound version should suit most players who like (or don't mind) rather soft sponges. |
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since calibra is such a fast rubber, is it a good rubber fast counterhitting and blocking?
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Yes, the Calibra LT is particularly good for counter loops and for blocks. For me, counter loops work out fine both close to the table and from further distance. The throw of the rubber is just perfect for my liking. (I never felt comfortable with counter looping close to the table when I used T05, almost every attempt went long due to the high throw and the reactivity to the incoming spin. I also thought that the T05 is a horrible blocking rubber when the timing is not close to perfect.) The more I think about it the more likely it becomes that I will change from the H3 to the Calibra even in the middle (sort of beginning actually) of the season (I have never ever switched rubbers during the season up to now, but I'm slowely but surely becoming sort of an EJ). The H3 has large benefits, but it takes so much effort to use it. The Calibra LT brings much more joy to my game. |
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....may be at your level this is a problem to block and counter with T05. you should practice more than changing your rubber!! [or take personal training from me] NOT!! But there are people in this forum who comes up with self-complacent comments like this...so i couldn't resist the temptation of mimicing them enjoy your transition and keep updating this thread...because the rubbers from this factory have a ill repute of surface degradation. hope they got over it in calibra generation.
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