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I should check the rules again, but as this is a open forum, I don't think frontosa hijacked any thread. I don't mean to make a fuss about it, but the original poster made a thread about training in China at the national training center, and another commenter decided to add more information about alternative choices. Creation of a thread shouldn't imply control of content within, especially if the content is sufficiently related to the original topic. Frontosa has done nothing to censor the original message, but only has commented in a public forum. For example, I have seen many threads that started with an advertisement for one online store, only to have others suggest other stores.

In certain scenarios Frontosa's action may not be entirely "respectful" if it in effect shut down a lone voice, but I have no reason to think that in this situation, especially given the widespread attention called to the national Chinese training center already.

That said, I appreciate all of the information given so far from all posters.
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may  i  know  whether  the chance is available now
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zhaoxiaoxuesnow,
what are you doing?
since you provide the topic,why do not you answer the questions?
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she just spammed her advertisement like 10 times and then left. 
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i am so sorry to you,queen821114
maybe we are in the different time zone
we still provide the training ,if you are interested,you could contact me though email [email protected] or msn [email protected]
thanks for your interests in the training
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote zhaoxiaoxuesnow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/06/2007 at 10:03pm
[QUOTE=kenneyy88]she just spammed her advertisement like 10 times and then left.  [/QUOTE]
i want to say something.
i feel so frustrated today.
first,it is my first job,i need to work hard to get good performance.
yes,i promoted here,but i do not think there is anything wrong.
 
second,i did not think it was a spam.i did not set up 10 or more topics.
 
third,i was on a long holiday--chinese traditional holidy,spring festival.
when i was back, i think the topic get a good ending,because a member said "he appreciated all...",it is ok,right?
 
finally,i did not left. i browse the forum everyday,because i love tt too.
 
please do not hurt someone,when you know nothing about.
 
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zhaoxiaoxuesnow, what would happen if you only spoke English - how will you communicate?
Will there be a lot of international students from across the world: and do the coaches speak English?
 
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there are many foreign players, and the coaches can speak english, and also we will be there the whole day to take care of the whole team and deal with their problems.
 
yes,we just could speak english and could not provide other foreign languages now.
 
if someone are interested in china, in chinese, you could join us to teach your language and get the chinese course equally.
then maybe we could provide other  language.
 
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This is a very interesting opportunity!

regarding the price:

Coaching in the US is $30 - $40 USD per hour, and few will have access to a dedicated coach for many hours a week.  When you add up this many hours of training with a coach, it would probably end up costing MORE in the US, and being stretched over a longer period of time.  Price of accomodations is also included in fee, not to mention for those of us in canada / states, a chance to travel!  Any "vacation" overseas is going to run you something along these lines in cost, this one also happens to let you focus on TT (what better vacation than that)

Suppose you want to take a course in XYZ at a local college - you'll be paying roughly what this school charges.  But this is one of the few places I know to offer a course in ping pong Wink Now if only it were possible to get a degree in it (certainly there is enough material to fill out a whole curriculum of courses)

Thanks for the info zhaoxiaoxuesnow!

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Here's a link (at the bottom) from my post of last year's trip to the training camp promoted here on Mytabletennis.net in Beijing.

Training was top notch, with an ex-national team coach and one of the top TT university programs in China.  Most players were top notch, from 13 year olds to 23 year olds at the camp. Only real complaint was the heat and no air in the gym, which exhausted me too quickly each day, some days it wasn't as bad.  My appetite increased quite a bit during training to keep up with the physical demand and the cafeteria food didn't do it. I ate out for more healthier, well rounded meals each day.

In my opinion, at  any level lower than 2200 USATT rating, it's not going to matter if you train at the National Training Center or with the Peking University team (who took 2nd and 1st place at the Stiga NA last year)... you'll benefit either way.

This year, a couple friends are traveling to the Grenzau training camp in Germany in a month for a session or two. One of the fellows, Philip Klimant attended 3 or 2 tournaments here and went home with a 2300+ USATT rating.  I'm hoping to go there within the year or early next year and also have my eye on training in China again as well. I cannot find training in the area i live and have to drive 1.5 hours to get any real coaching, which the coach's time is split between a few people each session and I can't do it on a consistent basis, I hope to figure something out soon.

Oh i should add, I'm not good enough to go to a local training center and qualified, so I have to search out and pay for it pretty well as most of us do. :)   I'm only about 1500 level i believe but still improving, I still don't play well under pressure sometimes and playing more tournaments should help that.  I really agree with Samson Dubina's philosophy to look at tournaments as places to get practice against higher level players.  Everyone should also support their local club nights and practice sessions too.


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i like the pictures.

share mine with you.
 
 
 
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Ma Lin - Impressive Wink
Has anyone from this forum decided to go to this training camp, I am very interested.
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many people inquire about the training
 
some of them made the decision but i do not know whether they are from this forum
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if i enrole, do i get to train with liqin, ma lin, wang hao and ma long?
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Whoa.  Would love to go.  Kind of expencive though.  How many of the trainers there actually speak English?  And if not many, are there translators?
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ya do you get to play or meet with the national team players???
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the trainers who are responsibale for trainee from foreign countries all can speak english.
 
and at the mean time  i could translate for you
 
if you are interested in the training, or you have other questions
contact me though e-mail [email protected]
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i can not promise you could meet the national players
but if you are lucky enough, you may
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Originally posted by chronos chronos wrote:



Suppose you want to take a course in XYZ at a local college - you'll be paying roughly what this school charges.  But this is one of the few places I know to offer a course in ping pong Wink Now if only it were possible to get a degree in it (certainly there is enough material to fill out a whole curriculum of courses)


actually that guy with the short shorts/ combover from the training videos that alink put on youtube really does have a PhD in table tennis
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If I remember correctly, Ms. Cao Qin, the former coach of the PKU team also studied TT there and is now a board member of the Founders TT Club, where one of the top pro Beijing teams, the Founders Team are managed and located.  I guess in a country where it's the National sport,  they probably have some in-depth programs in their schools at higher levels to support and manage such enterprises and sports business affairs. She is also an ITTF certified umpire and works the ITTF sanctioned tournaments in China.

Santa Monica City College in California also offers a class or two in table tennis, I heard. So it's out there. :)

If the price was cheaper on the Chinese National Training Center one, I'd probably go. But at that price it's more affordable to go to Germany to train for me. But it does look like a great facility and center, I could have used a hot tub/whirlpool at the last one after each hard day's training. ;)
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@phrixion

Could you quantify your improvements after the camp you went to last summer?  For example how much in ratings did you improve or if you are unrated are you able to beat players consistently now whom you couldn't beat before.  I just wanted to get some idea about it.  Thanks.
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Originally posted by GenomicsKnight GenomicsKnight wrote:

@phrixion

Could you quantify your improvements after the camp you went to last summer?  For example how much in ratings did you improve or if you are unrated are you able to beat players consistently now whom you couldn't beat before.  I just wanted to get some idea about it.  Thanks.


I went from about 600 USATT rating to almost 900 USATT rating right after camp.  You can see it in my USATT rating and that was soon after the camp so no time to rest or decompress and I was ambitious... but now that the training has settled in and I've worked on my other weak spots in the game a little, I'm practicing and playing consistently against 1500 level players.  I think I'm going to hit a hard spot right around this level until the next training to work on other aspects of the game I lack in.
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Thanks for sharing this valuable experience.  That gives me some rough idea about the overal results one can get by attending such camp.
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Originally posted by GenomicsKnight GenomicsKnight wrote:

@phrixion

Thanks for sharing this valuable experience.  That gives me some rough idea about the overal results one can get by attending such camp.


Well...  I hope to see some improvement in some tournaments coming up and see if this rating thing goes up. Wink
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zhaoxiaoxuesnow, what would happen if you only spoke English - how will you communicate?
Will there be a lot of international students from across the world: and do the coaches speak English?
 
Thanks 

there are also coaches can speak Japanese and Russian

there are many Japanese players
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Do they provide trainings against players who uses other equipment like LPs?
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choose the equipment you like best

we have all kinds of tables which are used in the world table tennis championships
 
you could choose any of them
 
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what are you talking about?
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my english is not good enough to understand you
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