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    Posted: 02/06/2007 at 2:50am
take a 5 ply and 7 ply blade made of more or less the same wood or wood/fiber material etc.. What is the difference between these 2 blades? I would assume the 7 ply is stiffer with more speed. What tends to be the other differences. I've only ever played with 5 ply blades so im curious as im thinking about getting a particular blade which is 7 ply.
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A 7-ply is heavier and faster, typically favoured by players with a weaker far table game.
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Typically 5ply all-wood blades have a thicker core; but a 7ply usually has a core of 3 thinner plies. It is likely that the thicker core would give a 5ply more power, away from the table. (assuming that the overall thickness of a 5ply and 7ply being the same).

Maybe it is just a hypothesis.

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We have a topic about this on the French forum and what came out mostly was that 7 plys were often thicker, stiffer and faster. But even if the 7 plys are faster they require more efforts to get the most speed out of it. 7 plys better for blocking and smashing because stiffer and 5 plys better for spinny top spin because they have more felx. Quite a few also felt that 7 plys were better for short game because less bouncy in that kind of game. 

This is just a general feeling, not a rule because it all depends a lot on thicknesses of each ply and also the way they are glued together. 
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Would you say a 5ply is faster than a 7ply with same type(s) of wood and same overall thickness?
With overall thickness being the same, 5ply will have a thicker core, but the 7ply will have a thinner core.
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Originally posted by W0LovePP W0LovePP wrote:

Would you say a 5ply is faster than a 7ply with same type(s) of wood and same overall thickness?
With overall thickness being the same, 5ply will have a thicker core, but the 7ply will have a thinner core.

I can't give you an answer to that but maybe the explanation here can help: http://www.misterping.com/catalogues/sanwei/index.html

Have a look at page 35. It's quite interesting. 
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Page 35? Maybe you don't mean the page with glues and balls?
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aha. I found it. It is actually page 31. Interesting indeed

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Originally posted by ttping85 ttping85 wrote:

Originally posted by W0LovePP W0LovePP wrote:

Would you say a 5ply is faster than a 7ply with same type(s) of wood and same overall thickness?
With overall thickness being the same, 5ply will have a thicker core, but the 7ply will have a thinner core.

I can't give you an answer to that but maybe the explanation here can help: http://www.misterping.com/catalogues/sanwei/index.html

Have a look at page 35. It's quite interesting. 

Do you mean the page with the illustration of 1st and 2nd speed?
You can see the Chinese use this term sometimes, Xu Xin with his Rosewood V is a good example of a guy who goes for slower 1st speed & faster 2nd speed, with the high spin kicking the ball when it hits the table.

But I think something has been lost in the translation on these pages, they show what looks like a typical 5 ply construction with the text "short touch time, fast 1st speed."

Also, I have shopped several Sanwei blades on aliexpress and I have seen their advertisements. You should know that the third illustration (the 9 ply with "integrated function" and "all attack") is just promotion for their "domino" structure which they claim is better than traditional construction types used by Galaxy, DHS and so on.


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Originally posted by Kolev Kolev wrote:

aha. I found it. It is actually page 31. Interesting indeed

yeah sorry page 31 on the catalog, page 35 was referring to the pages written on the top left. 
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Wow, Sanwei are no joke-17/18/19 ply blades. According to their description those should be really flexible. My hands are itching for some extra flex
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