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    Posted: 08/23/2006 at 7:24pm
best butterfly blade there is?
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you may perhaps ask which blade, Butterfly or other products, is best suit for your style of play.
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Iolite FL.  Beautifully made and pretty fast. 
BTY rated as hard but in contrary, I have found it nicely soft and responsive.  The handle is thinner than most blades in the market but fits me well since I find most handles are too fat.

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Schlager Carbon -- blade on steroids!
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maze/boll spirit/korbel
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I would have to go with Gundam.  Schlager Carbon definately!!!
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Primorac Off- is their bestselling blade...
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Originally posted by bigreddawgie bigreddawgie wrote:

maze/boll spirit/korbel

I also agree with him, these are possibly the cream of good looping blades...

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Primorac OFF-
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Primorac OFF-
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stop trying to find the so call best blade and start playing. =)
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Primorac Off -
Blade: Timo Boll Spirit (st)

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Boll spirit and kreanga carbon
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There is no best BTY blade. However there is one for YOU ! That's their strengh. They have such a wide range od product that there should be one meeting you exact needs. Ex : you're a newbie in the sport, take primorac off -. You're getting better, go for boll forte or legout. You're hooked, can't live w/o TT, go for TBS, Maze, Kreanga etc...You're a looper, a defender, a hitter, whatever you want, they have it ! It's very good quality, rather consistent and widely sold all over the world. That said, the other manufacters are not so bad either...
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Timo Boll Spirit and P.Korbel blades.
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Maze is at least as good as TBS. Balsa carbo X5 rocks. Primorac carbon and Schlager carbon are beloved by their owner. Same as Sardius, gergerly, Iolite, Viscaria. Odd topic...
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I'm guessing either the Sardius or the TBS. Butterfly's arylate/carbon blades are the best in the world after all.
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I hope one day the "best equipment" topics will stop appearing on this forum, though it's probably my wishfull thinking.

IMO, there's no such thing as "best blade", "best rubber", "best shoe", "best sock", "best table", "best net", "best glue", "best ball" or "best anything" as it relates to equipment, though many might have their FAVORITE or MOST SUITABLE gear.
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Don't fool yourself. There's really a best blade. Just take a poll on the pros. The blade that most of them play IS the BEST blade. At the pro level, the strokes aren't all that different from each other as they all converge to perfection. The blade that most of them pick would be the fittest one for the sport.

 

 

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Originally posted by khvn khvn wrote:

Don't fool yourself. There's really a best blade. Just take a poll on the pros. The blade that most of them play IS the BEST blade. At the pro level, the strokes aren't all that different from each other as they all converge to perfection. The blade that most of them pick would be the fittest one for the sport.



... and the BEST blade award goes to ...


I respectfully disagree with you point that ".. the strokes aren't all that different from each other ...".  Being around TT for over 30 years (including few years as semi-pro in Europe) I've seen hundreds of professional players live and on video with different playing styles and different techniques and strokes, which might affect equipment preference (e.g. heavier/harder blades for power players with wide strokes). 

Based on my experience (I haven't taken the poll though), I believe, that vast majority of competitive/professional players would rather say "this is my favorite blade" or "this blade suits me best" rather than saying "this is the best blade".  Would you say that Matsush*ta or Boll play with inferior equipment because very few pro players choose to play with their blades?

Ps. I typically hear best blade/rubber discussions among beginners who believe that the most efficient way to improve their game is to have the "best equipment".

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BTY Sardius is the legendary one
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In search for the relatively-speaking best blade, I would stay away from any individual case. Say, after polling the top 100 players in the world, it turns out that 60 of them use this xyz blade, wouldn't this xyz blade deserves to be given the best blade award?

 

 

 

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VictorK wow you really know a lot about tt. i agree with you. yes blade do affect a lot. pro players stroke are really different. legout is the best example. there is no best blade.it is what suit u that is important. my coach uses stiga offensive classic, i dunno the name of the blade, it's a penhold blade made in the 38mm ball era. he said it is not a very good blade but he says it gives him a lot of feel.
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emm...in my mind now i want to buy....kong linghui SP AN...second choice korbel AN....someone help me make a comparison this 2 blade..my style shakehand medium loop both side allround...
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Ther is no blade that is the best. It's depends on your plating style and how exprerience you are.
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Originally posted by khvn khvn wrote:

In search for the relatively-speaking best blade, I would stay away from any individual case. Say, after polling the top 100 players in the world, it turns out that 60 of them use this xyz blade, wouldn't this xyz blade deserves to be given the best blade award?






IMO, if that was the case it would deserve the "most popular blade" - not necessarily the "best blade" award.

I'm not an equipment expert, but I believe that if you looked at blades used by top 100 players you'd probably find that very few players use the same blade.

To examplify my point, I did some digging and found an old (and most likely inaccurate) list of world-class players and blades they use (see below). Looking at the list can we say which of the blades is the BEST, or even the MOST POPULAR?


J-O Waldner (SWE)     Waldner Senso Carbon
Kong Linghui (CHN)     Kong Special
Vladamir Samsonov (BLR)     Samsonov Alpha
Liu Gouliang (CHN)     Clipper Wood WRB
Zoran Primorac (CRO)      Primorac Carbon
Peter Karlsson (SWE)      Stiga Allround Classic WRB
Kim Taek Soo (KOR)     Cypress PenHolder
Jorg Rosskopf (GER)     Rosskopf Viva
J.M. Saive (BEL)     Andro Kinetic OFF+
Ding Song (CHN)             Double Happiness
J.P. Gatien (FRA)     Gatien Extra 3D
Ma Wenge (CHN)              Avalox 5-ply
Johnny Huang (CAN)     Avalox 7-ply
Jorgen Persson (SWE)     Persson Powerplay
Ma Lin (CHN)             Yasaka Gatien Extra
Timo Boll(GER)      Timo Boll Spirit
Ryu Seung Min             Penholder Kim Teak Soo
Michael Maze(DEN)     Michael Maze OFF
Joo Se Hyuk(KOR)      Spezial All+
Werner Schager(AUT)      Werner Schlager Carbon OFF+
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