Darker Tanpan VS Darker Speed90 Shakehand

I see from this url below
http://www.tabletennis.com.tw/newgood.html
that there is other Darker single ply Hinoki shakehands blade, other than Darker Hinoki Tanpan.

Is it the same blade, or different blade? Could you guys review it?

Tx Stefanus

Yupp that's right. It is darker speed 90 shakehands. Iruiru and darker catalogue 2004 only has darker speed 90 jpen.

As far as I know , the Speed90 shakehand is sold outside Japan . In Japan there is only have Tanpan. I'm not sure that it is the same model , but it look different in handle wood style and I think that the hinoki wood quality should be the same. You can compare picture of Tanpan from iruiru and speed 90 on the link above. I have a pdf file of complete catalog of Darker Japan and it don't have speed 90 shake on catalog.
Another thing is the speed 90 shake is much more expensive than Tanpan . My choice is buying Tanpan from iruiru and buy butterfly cypress shake pro from tabletennis.com.tw .

Tx touch and superloop,

I've already have darker catalogue 2005, 2004 and 2003. There is no speed 90 sahkehands. Maybe its a fake or maybe darker never supply it in japan.

I have asked iruiru if that blade available in their store. I'm very like darker tanpan. Already used it almost 2 weeks, and so far its matched my play. Like superloop and other friends that already has tanpan, it can play slow/soft and power/speed. it is a wide range blade, maybe that's the reason why it has no spec (like all, all+, off, etc).

if speed 90 shakehands is true, then I has to try it as well. I think it has more power/speed than tanpan. I believe in darker quality.

I'd like to try a Darker Speed90 shakehand too...

did u try emailing iruiru to chk with em, stefanus?
it could be a made-to-order blade.

well....at least tats what my fren told me la.
i dun know how true is tat cos i wanna get
Nittaku Acoustic first so didn't bother to
pursue the matter further....

Yea! soon i will be in the Acoustic Club too!!
getting blade prob in around Sept.

i'm sorry i didn't read carefully.
u did ask if its available in their store already...
i'm guessing even if its not, prob they will inform u if its a made-to-order blade.

well, i would certainly like to know if other sites have it too.
and prob many other pongers as well.

my Tanpan is pretty threshed already...as it is


( can someone pls help delete my double post?? sry....)

ah, so desu ka!! oh i see....

well...in tat case, i'll jus get another Tanpan after Acoustic.
or perhaps the elusive Cypress shakehand pro for a change

thks for helping Aeoliah !

stefanus, hv u consider perhaps Cypress shakehand pro if its easier to get?
i mean both blades are hinoki 1 ply anyhow. mmmmmn....

well maybe u wun buy a btfly la cos general consensus is that Darker is better quality.
only if u r curious enuff to try i guess...

actually i'm very curious abt Accoustic's performance!! i would like to experience it for myself.
to find out whatz so special abt this blade. seems like most who tried it, love it.

its kinda like the Farrari of blades....hahaha...
not the fastest around but sounds like music to the ears...

as for the vibration...i dun really mind it cos i enjoy ping pong very much & can appreciate each
blade's uniqueness. to me, making frens, having a fun time & learning new techniques in ping pong
is more important than winning (although its also part of the sport & we should try to win as much as possible too)

tx touch,

for your information. if it wasn't much different in quality then i don't have to buy it then.

Right now i'm very happy with tanpan...

Yuna, pls review your accoustic after you use it, tx adn looking fwd to it.

hi pingpongist,

glad you joined this forum,

you can read some review about tanpan, if you search more, there is some comment from superloop and other friends.

I bought this blades because of my curiousity about misterious hinoki woods

just like superloop, i use bty schlager carbon, which you can assumed as a superfast-super hard-non vibrates blades.

After using it for 2 weeks, i found that i can do chop, slow push in front of net and other soft moves which i found it really hard with blade that has a fast/power feel. When i hit it very hard, you also be amazed with how much power a "weak" blade like this. Superloop once told me that it has 95% power of schlager carbon, firstly i dont believe it, but somehow it's true.

the negative thing abt this blade, is it's really really FAT (with big F)
. most likely you will scratch your rubber with table.

again, you should search other comments, and you must remeber this : every blade has a "taste", maybe it's for you, maybe it's not. You can't judge it only by other opninons, you have to try it yourself.

Sorry aeloiah,
I don't understand what you mean by rings. But I really like darker woods than butterfly. The wood is really top class.

mmmmm........lemme try to give a shot at reviewing the Tanpan.
hopefully it will give all those who are interested a better idea about it

firstly, being hinoki wood, evy Tanpan will be slightly different from each other.
some may be more powerful but heavier, others maybe light & weaker.
so my Tanpan may be a bit diff from urs ya... hahaha..
i'm reviewing on what i've got...

when i first got my Tanpan, there's one thing that i mus highlight & that is
pride of craftmanship. besides the nice even grain, the uniformity of the
curved sides is impressive.

overall power rating is ALL+ i feel. i also have a KLH special & Tanpan is slower
(i've tested it with same rubber) this blade is good close to the table.
its easier to place short balls accurately cos the soft feeling is jus great!
close range, u still can create blazing spinballs with confidence cos the dwell time is long.

mid distance is when Tanpan will lose out a bit. its jus not powerful enuf compare to the carbon blades.
however u can increase the speed a little by extending ur arm when driving/looping & matching it with
powerful rubbers like Bryce or Sprungfeder. tis blade will reduce the power of any rubber i put on it.
can be a bit tiring as u'll prob need to use whole body often to drive/loop jus to keep up!
speedgluing is a easier way out...hahaha..

tis part depends on personal preferences. i like to match Tanpan w/ Hurricane series rubbers
cos the smacking sound is so nice! and service is dam spiny!! but tis setup is heavy.
so recently i chg to sprung instead and lost some spin in the process.

as a wrap, i feel tat tis blade is good for beginner tt players cos control & feedback is great for
gameplay & learning proper strokes. furthermore if match w/ tacky chinese rubbers, it is
great for students to become more aware of the component of spin in tt due to long dwell time & soft feel.

tis is my first review, hope it helps...

Tip: try not to wet ur hinoki blade cos it'll become heavier & may lose some power.
after playing, i keep my blade in the dry cabinet along with my cameras to dry out the sweat.

hello pingpongist...I have a Tanpan that I bought about 4 weeks ago.  When stefanusj asked about the Tanpan, I told him that it was almost as fast as my old Schlager Carbon when you smash or power loop.  I have used speed-glued Bryce and Bryce FX on my Tanpan and I am a close to mid-distance looper.  Yuna said that his Tanpan loses power from mid-distance but I have not found that to be the case.  The Bryce was almost too fast so I switched back to Bryce FX.  Like yuna said...since wood is a natural material, each blade with have some differences.  The weight of my Tanpan is 92g.

I am also interested in the differences between the shakehands Speed 90 and the Tanpan.   I saw the shakehands Speed 90 on the Taiwan website before I bought my Tanpan from iruiru but I could not figure out how to order it and also it was more expensive.  I am thinking about ordering a Speed 90 with the chinese penhold grip from iruiru and using it as a shakehands blade.  Then I could compare the Speed 90 to the Tanpan.

superloop