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jackass22 
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If you want off+ - off, choose donic crest off. If you want off blade, choose donic crest ar+.
Crest off ist a little bit stiffer, harder, less wood feel. Both blades are the top of their catheogries.
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AndySmith
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Posted: 09/11/2015 at 7:34am |
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Not sure what your budget is, but get in touch with tibi if you're looking to get hold of a Crest for less than retail.
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With Kiri core of the Crest off, I'm afraid of its stiffness. If it is not too stiff and has some flexibility at high impact, it should be good.
Actually I love to hear the drawback/disadvantage of the blades. Because it helps slowing down my EJ things and save my money.  |
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AndySmith
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Sure, I can go full negative for you if you like. The head size is big, so with heavy rubbers they become a bit head-heavy. Not massively so, but it's noticeable. The FL AR+ handle I have is an improvement on the Donic WC89 series because it's a bit thicker and the lenses don't stick out, but it's still a bit on the thin side (although it's plenty wide enough). And the handle has a super-smooth finish which you may or may not like. Finishing is generally excellent but there are some little bits of fibre sticking out of the bottom of the handle. This is a tiny thing to mention really. Ummm. It came in a standard Donic box? Which is a bit cheap and nasty compared with proper origami sliding SoulSpin boxes, which are a work of art. I'm reaching now. But that's it. It plays really well though - that's the crucial part. Well worth approx €100 of your hard earned currency.
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Thanks everyone especially Andy. Your latest comment really helps me (to spend).
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AndySmith
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Yeah, I felt like I drifted away from the objective with that post.
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AndySmith
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Might be worth mentioning that the two Crest AR+ blades I have are both 6.2mm thick. Just to add an extra little LOL to the official specs on the Donic website.
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the_theologian
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This was my only complaint with the WC89 Appelgren I had |
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AndySmith
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I much prefer the Crest handle - not as flat, and no unexpected lens protrusions. The Crest is a good blade, I'm sure you'd like it a lot. It's probably very similar to a lot of things you've already tried though.
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NextLevel
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Crest or IF ZLC? Who wins?
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AndySmith
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This is a close one. Crest has a crisper feel, sharp and definite, but has the nice limba feel on brush shots. It's thicker and feels more solid, I prefer the handle. Speed is very close and they both have that great combination of feel up close and power away from the table - I find the Crest is slightly faster overall and the stiffness helps with drives and blocks. But - the Crest's head size makes it a little more head-heavy in comparison, and mine are both 92g which is heavier than the IF-ZLC I had for a bit (86g), so some of these differences might be down to weight. Crest is half the price of the IF-ZLC (via our forum's resident Donic) and is incredibly close in performance.
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Hello Andy,
just to mention that i hate you :) damn this damn blade look bloody good. I dont want to spend........... damnnn |
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AndySmith
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Yeah, I get that a lot.  It's a good blade, well-made, reasonable if you don't pay retail price. It's not so different to many blades you've already tried or own though, so I doubt you'll find it a revelation or anything.
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the_theologian
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Posted: 09/19/2015 at 7:28pm |
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Andy... please stop tempting me |
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AndySmith
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Posted: 09/21/2015 at 10:51am |
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What, me? What have I said?
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Posted: 09/21/2015 at 10:59am |
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All this comparing to IF ZLC.... 
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NextLevel
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Theologian suspects his IF is too fast, is considering boosting... All I need to know is that he is considering Tenergy 05 and the sky is falling on our heads.
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AndySmith
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Posted: 09/21/2015 at 11:37am |
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Well then, I'd say the Crest is a step in the wrong direction. If that's still where he wants to go?
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Crest AR+ still too fast?
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the_theologian
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I don't think IF ZLC is too fast. And I won't be boosting my main setup (I'm going to experiment with H3 and old rubbers for fun).
My interest in the Crest is due to the price and availability of the IF ZLC in ST |
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AndySmith
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Posted: 09/21/2015 at 1:01pm |
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Nah, it's just right daddy bear. Just not slower than the if-zlc. |
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Posted: 09/21/2015 at 1:02pm |
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Hmm. It's worth a go then! If you hate it I will lose all respect for you and then take it off your hands. |
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I thought the IF ZLC was beast. Did I buy a Beetle? |
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AndySmith
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Everyone has a cut off point I suppose. It's quick, but I found it to be easier to handle than the Boll ZLC and JM. The Crest is right on the limit of what I can cope with in practical terms, but I don't use the fastest rubbers in the world. What stands out to me with the Crest over the IF is the combination of loop ability and clear, pure feel on hits and drives. No compromises, and plenty of power for put aways. But with fast rubbers it would be a handful. |
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I had some questions whether playing Tenergy 05 in connection with the Donic Crest Off ?
Today tested and I can say that this combination can find its fans . Tested 05 2.1 mm on the front side . It is not go wrong with this combination . Topspin on the front side it has a nice bow, and offers tremendous precision and a good rotation .A long time ago I played last time with Tenergy 05,but basically I liked it more than the Butterfly Maze Off or Boll Spirit . A few days ago, I tried and MXP EVO Max and also works very well . If I had to rate the accuracy of the location , so with Tenergy 05 , I had the feeling that I can more accurately place the ball on the table than with the EVO MXP . However, if I judge the rotation , so the EVO MXP and according to the words of Sparring spin have the better and the worse of the block on its side . However, both rubber work on the Crest Off very well and it just depends on the tastes of who is what like ? W.
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Lmao Andy said he's "reaching". This guy got me dyinggggg. |
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did we figure out the country of origin for the Crest series?
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AndySmith
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Nothing concrete, but it does look like SoulSpin to me. |
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Well if history serves us, when a manufacturer doesn't declare the origin it's typically made in China.
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True. Could be an amazing fake out if so. The generic Donic box it cones in doesn't say anything about country of origin. I'll ask around. Don't really care though. Awesome blade regardless of where it comes from. |
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