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Another thing I should mention- Vega Euro now becomes very slow after 30-40 hours of play. That makes it much harder to put away the ball. But topsheet grip is still there.
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whether someone could compare Europe with Bryce FX
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Originally posted by LOOPMEISTER LOOPMEISTER wrote:

I think a lot of the sound comes from the soft sponge and tall pips, rather than some kind of manufacturing treatment that leaves a rubber brittle.

As for durability, last week I hit the table and splintered the edge of my blade but Vega Euro was not even scuffed. I also noticed the topsheet was durable when I was cutting the rubber. And it doesn't crumble off when impacted like Tenergy.

Can you tell something about long term durability.Some say that after week one you can notite a signifigant reduction of spin??????
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Originally posted by louisc louisc wrote:

Originally posted by LOOPMEISTER LOOPMEISTER wrote:

I think a lot of the sound comes from the soft sponge and tall pips, rather than some kind of manufacturing treatment that leaves a rubber brittle.

As for durability, last week I hit the table and splintered the edge of my blade but Vega Euro was not even scuffed. I also noticed the topsheet was durable when I was cutting the rubber. And it doesn't crumble off when impacted like Tenergy.

Can you tell something about long term durability.Some say that after week one you can notite a signifigant reduction of spin??????


Vega rubbers lose some of their surface grip after a few weeks. But Euro is overall soft enough that it keeps a good mechanical spin for its lifetime.

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Originally posted by LOOPMEISTER LOOPMEISTER wrote:

Originally posted by louisc louisc wrote:

Originally posted by LOOPMEISTER LOOPMEISTER wrote:

I think a lot of the sound comes from the soft sponge and tall pips, rather than some kind of manufacturing treatment that leaves a rubber brittle.

As for durability, last week I hit the table and splintered the edge of my blade but Vega Euro was not even scuffed. I also noticed the topsheet was durable when I was cutting the rubber. And it doesn't crumble off when impacted like Tenergy.

Can you tell something about long term durability.Some say that after week one you can notite a signifigant reduction of spin??????


Vega rubbers lose some of their surface grip after a few weeks. But Euro is overall soft enough that it keeps a good mechanical spin for its lifetime.



I've heard that, but I've also heard that the top sheet can be easily "revitalized" by a drop of paraffin oil being spread on and soaked in. I haven't had to do it yet, but if I notice a drop in grip then I'll give it a shot.


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I've used Vega Europe for some months now and like it. Nice and soft, quite spinny, good throw, reasonably good glue effect, quite durable (except it can tear easily around the edges). Ideal for good loopers.
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I've been using this on my backhand for the last week or so. Red 2.0.

I was using Dawei ULQ 2.0 before (excellent control + decent speed and spin but a little too slow). After that, I briefly played with a Max Xiom Asia (too fast for me at this point).

Going back to Xiom Europe. Not sure about the soft sponge + soft top sheet combination. Not much adjustment on loops, serves and push. Blocks is a totally different thing. I can't control this rubber when I am blocking. It seems to react too much to incoming spin. I actually have to be a little bit more aggressive i.e. a little bit of brush or punch.

I will stay on this rubber for another week. If it still behaves the same, I might just go back to ULQ.

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Is there a difference between how the red and the black Vega Euro's play?
(1) Juic SBA (Fl, 85 g) with Bluefire JP3 (red max) on FH and 0.6 mm DR N Desperado on BH; (2) Yinhe T7 (Fl, 87 g) with Bluefire M3 (red 2.0) on FH and 0.6 mm 755 on BH.
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Originally posted by JacekGM JacekGM wrote:

Is there a difference between how the red and the black Vega Euro's play?

No. 

Unless I am mistaken, black top sheets have a tiny bit of extra grip. This is because top sheets are naturally black and they are dyed red so a trivial amount of grip is lost during the dying process. At least, that's what my friend told me. But this doesn't really matter imo. 
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Hello everybody. 


Could someone advice me. I want to use Vega Europe for BH on my Acoustic but I am a bit worried is it going to play on my blade since it is quite hard. The second issue is thickness of the rubber. I am choosing between 2.0 and max. 

I mostly use BH for drives and block but want to develop top spins from close to the table distance. 


Thank you in advance. 


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Go with Vega Asia or Omega Asia
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Vega Europe isn't "quite hard".

If that is quite hard for you... then.......
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I meant my blade is quite hard. Upper layer is koto. 
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Originally posted by player87 player87 wrote:

Hello everybody.

Could someone advice me. I want to use Vega Europe for BH on my Acoustic but I am a bit worried is it going to play on my blade since it is quite hard. The second issue is thickness of the rubber. I am choosing between 2.0 and max.

I mostly use BH for drives and block but want to develop top spins from close to the table distance.

Thank you in advance.



I have Vega Europe on my backhand with an acoustic. They go very well together.

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what is the thickness? 

I am planning to get 2.0 

want more control. Hope it won't be too slow

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If you are mostly looping on backhand, you should not be disappointed with the XVE 2.0. 
However, something like Rakza 7 Soft in that case might be a better choice.
(1) Juic SBA (Fl, 85 g) with Bluefire JP3 (red max) on FH and 0.6 mm DR N Desperado on BH; (2) Yinhe T7 (Fl, 87 g) with Bluefire M3 (red 2.0) on FH and 0.6 mm 755 on BH.
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Originally posted by player87 player87 wrote:

what is the thickness? 

I am planning to get 2.0 

want more control. Hope it won't be too slow



It is 2.0 actually. Not too slow. Very good control and spin.
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Thinking about FH now)) 

How about Genius Max or 2.0 on FH  or better Omega 4 Europe? or maybe another option of Xiom. But weight is essential for me. Want to decrease the weight. 

My game mostly close to the table with FH loops. Wink


Thank you in advance. 

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vega asia omega asia should be light enough.. depending on how strong you are?
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Originally posted by decoi decoi wrote:

vega asia omega asia should be light enough.. depending on how strong you are?


I was thinking the same thing.
Maybe Vega Asia on FH to pair with Vega Euro on BH
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I am not a strong player however would like to improve myself. Here we come, my final setup is FH Evolution MXP max, BH Vega Europe 2.0  


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Quote I am not a strong player however would like to improve myself

which is exactly the reason you should be using Vega asia  on either of your sides. theres a guy at my club who is jsut a bit better than me and he has been using vega asia both sides for a long time now
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Decoi, thank you very much for the advices but I was choosing from what is available at the moment. Otherwise I would need to wait for several week until I get my order. 

I am really looking that my setup will fit me. 

P.S. I have watched your youtube video. Are you playing cpen? If yes, then I am playing a bit better. 

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did you check the dates :P
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:P
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