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thethinker
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Another review after a change of blade.
Blade: Stiga Titanium Wood Peter Rubbers: FH: Haifu BW2 BH: Xiom Vega Asian MAX Review: I went back to my main weapon for the testing of Vega Asian. I find it suits Vega more. There is more dwell time and even more control, almost too much. Vega Asian is excellent at block. It gives the blocker a little more time by "holding" onto the ball longer and making solid contact. Although the ball would sit higher compares to Tenergy but the angle can be adjusted easily after the Tenergy user play just a few balls. Short game is average because aggresive flips are harder to execute with such soft sponge, while soft flips are piece of cake. The same is true with placement of pushes. It's easy to push but the control of the location needs a bit of practice with such a soft sponge. Compare to Tenergy it's better still. Up to now the most troubling stroke with Vega Asian is the loop kill. While counter looping and control loops are easier to produce and to control than Tenergy, Vega Asian cannot be used to finish a point like Tenergy with a loop kill. This is the lacking of gears that I was talking about. For a forehand rubber this is absolutely the deal breaker for me because I prefer to loop kill to end point while I am close to the table. But Vega is just as good as Tenergy on Backhand where I can end points with a hit. Sometimes even a Waldner like punch is enough to win the point. Vega Asian is more than hold its own for a backhand rubber. Its soft sponge is vey good for hitting. (And the sound is pretty loud, a lot louder than Tenergy) I think this review is pretty complete for now until I find out how durable it can be. |
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Anton Chigurh
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For what it's worth, I fully concur with your estimation. I'm not into tensors on my forehand (I use Chinese rubber), but I've been using Vega Asia on my backhand and, after some minor adjustments, I find it to be absolutely suitable for the task. I too noticed the louder sound. Personally, I really like it. Just out of curiosity, I'm going to toy around with Coppa Platin on my backhand for a bit; but so far, Vega Asia is more than adequate for a backhand rubber and I'll likely come back to it.
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zain islam
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any of the vega's good for rpb
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blade: butterfly schalger carbon
forehand rubber: sriver L max backhand rubber: sriver EL max |
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thethinker
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Anton, thanks for the backing up.
Zain, all of them (three versions of Vega) are good for rpb. There are no requirements for rpb. It all depends on what you like and dislike. You may not like a heavy rubber; then Vega is not for you. It's alomost as heavy as Tenergy. But then, you may like the control and sound of Vega. |
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bogeyhunter
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Could reviewers include level of reviewers?
Reviews of someone at similar level means more than reviews from players rated 400+ points higher or lower.
I decide to stick with Xiom Vega series. Can't beat its price/quality ratio!!!
I have Pro black 2.1 mm but looking for more control and better short game.
Anyone has Vega Asia BLACK 2.1 mm and want to trade for Vega pro 2.1 mm Black?
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addoydude
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You mean 2.2, right? I don't think Vega has 2.1. I'm using 2.0 of Pro and Asia. Main difference is that the Pro topsheet is firmer so if you like slightly softer feel, go with Asia. I think the Asia short game and control is not much different than the Pro. They weigh the same also. Probably you get better short game & control by going thinner to 2.0.
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sadius
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Xiom Vega Asia has 2.0mm and max 2.2mm. I'm using 2.0mm on BH now and it is a very good ruber, it feels softer than Pro, good control for short game and still have gear for long rally, loop and block.
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beoperson
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Hi All, Why XIOM? Being butterfly customer since 80-es (Classic Sriver) I just heard �glue� like sound during practice of one of the club members. He had XIOM Omega 2 on TB 5000 blade. I have tried it for few minutes and was pleasantly surprised. So I decide it to give it a try. Since I was ok with Tenergy 64 on FH my plan was to try Omega III on the backhand, and since Vega was (judging by review similar to Tenergy) to try Vega on the FH. FH Looping � (Vega) nice arch good control, adequate speed (definitely slower than Tenergy 64) BH Looping � (Omega) Excellent control and speed. Blocking both very solid � Vega has very impressive control. My next game � Semifinal was with very aggressive attacking close to the table player with killer FH loop. I was impressed with OMEGA on the FH � speed and control are excellent � loops are solid. Can�t fully compare to Tenergy 64 just yet � need more time. In short lost 1:3 but had a very decent game. Overview: Counter looping � not as fast as Tenergy 64. (that is Con for me) Not as spinny as Tenergy 64 (That�s Pro for me) BH Vega Asia Amazing block control and excellent drive speed. FH OMEGA III Great speed and spin during looping first impression is excellent � (need more time to fully compare to Tenergy 64 � most importantly I need to tell if it�s as fast as Tenergy 64 � if it is so I would definitely switch to it) Decent control on serve return � (As decent as it can get from such fast blade/rubber combo) Blocking � excellent. A lot more control compared to Tenergy 64 Excellent looping � speed and spin.
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thethinker
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I've used Omega III eur and it didn't last long. Not good money for a fragile rubber too. Vega asian is fast enough if your blade is OFF- and up. I can't seem to find where you mentioned your blade, or did you?
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addoydude
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he mentioned it. Butterfly Timo Boll Tricarbon. Rated the fastest butterfly blade. My friend has this, can't say it's the fastest but fast enough.
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thethinker
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Thnaks addoydude. I have to conclude that Tricarbon is not a good match for Vega Asian that's all. I find it to be true with T5000, a stiff blade. Now that I use Stiga Titanium with Vega, it bring out the rubber more. Just try Vega on a softer or wooden blade.
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sadius
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I never played Tri-Carbon before but I found the Vega Asia 2.0mm worked with medium hard and soft blade likes Hurricane King 655 and Kong Linghui Special. My playing style is close to table agressive attacker and sometime at mid-range and I really like Xiom Vega Asia 2.0mm over Baracuda and Hexer for my BH.
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Hans Regenkurt
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I've been using VEga Asia red max on my FH for two weeks.
I have not experienced any loss of speed or spin yet and I dont think I will because these rubbers don't seem to contain any kind of tuning. The rubbers that come in a vacuum bag have that. Compared to Vega Euro it is a more effective rubber if you have advanced technique so that you can get the performance out. As other members have previously posted, it is not a typical Chinese rubber as to hardness. Indeed, it can be best described as a Euro with a somewhat harder sponge. It differs from the Euro in the strokes it requires and in this regard it is Chinese and good for a Chinese style game. You need to use your biceps more than with Euro and the movement of your arm needs to be more forward than upward. This way even very low balls can be hit onto the opponents side of the table with noticeably more speed than with the Euro. Spin is on a par with speed glued rubbers, just like the Euro. Serving is not different form the other Vegas given that the topsheet is (almost) the same. Maybe the Asia topsheet is a little softer while the sponge is harder and it is the other way round with Euro. Countertopspinning is very good, brush and powerloops are easy to do -if you use the right technique. It is very predictable once get used to it -unlike the Pro which I have been unable to learn to predict. As I always say, if you are a Tenergy fan, I'm not sure you will like this as it requires better developed strokes, however, it is more effective. Speedwise it is not much faster than Euro. It is the fact that it allows you more direct strokes that makes its user faster. I like it better on my FH than my BH, where I would be unable to play with it. |
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gtx634
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I tried it yesterday,
it has amazing block with fast reaction and tension sound |
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tomaca
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if someone could compare vega asia and eurpe with H3 neo 39 deg and BW2 38 deg
interested me which is faster and harder
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Anton Chigurh
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It depends on how well one's technique can exploit Chinese rubbers. In my experience, the top end of Whale II will be faster (and spinnier) than the Vegas, but most of the lower gears of the Vegas will be faster for your effort. The Vegas are Euro tensors, whereas Neo H3 and Whale II are not--they're hard, tacky Chinese rubbers. Neo H3 and Whale II are definitely harder, by quite a bit. SIDE NOTE: For some people, the Chinese rubbers never get to demonstrate their full potential due to a lack of the requisite technique. For a long time I had the same problem; I didn't understand the appeal of hard, tacky Chinese rubbers. They felt dead no matter what I did... until I changed/refined my technique. Now they're all I use on my forehand. I don't know your skill level/experience so please forgive me if this is something you already know. But comparing Euro tensors to "traditional" Chinese rubbers is almost apples and oranges, IMO. |
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tomaca
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That is my problem, I can draw from Chinese rubber maximum why would want to change but not for a very soft rubber.
I choose between Vega and tenergy |
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unagidon
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where to buy xiom vega asia cheap?
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tomaca
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http://tabletennisequipment.dandoy-sports.com/en/index.php |
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beginnerluck
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I'm in the process of shopping, 've using Xiom Vega Asia and thinking of trying something else. any one has compared with Xiom Vega Asia against Xiom Vega Europe or Andro Ransant? how about the durability?
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patelaaaa
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revisiting a very old thread about Xiom Vega Asia. I've recently bought one with Max sponge. I've already played with Xiom Vega Europe for almost an year so far. Once I get it on my setup, will compare it with Vega Euro and add my opinion here.
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patelaaaa
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My short review:
Definitely not a beginner rubber. Been playing with Xiom Vega Asia since a week now on my DHS 301. It has a crisp sound, grabs the ball enough and does play similar to chinese rubbers. Requires effort to lift the underspin balls and with its low throw, not as easy as Xiom Vega Europe. Doesn't feel bouncy as long as you don't engage the sponge on pushes, vice versa on strong loops which spins the ball like crazy. Flat hits are not forgiving, so don't go with a balsa blade setup with this rubber. You'd need an all round blade for sure. On Backhand, you need to close the blade enough to create a spinny arc. Far from the table play is much better than Xiom vega europe as there is more speed and blocks the ball well with out much reacting to the incoming spin. Given these properties, It would definitely grow on someone who wants to advance their game to next level.
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