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shingouki666
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I loved how they had a bit of fun with the match in the end. |
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benfb
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Anyone know what rubbers Vladi was using during the Euros? it seems he is still looking for the right choices.
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vvk1
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Fully agree - Kreanga's backhand is simply the best!
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kreanga, regardless of the outcome, is a gladiator on court, entertaining and beautiful backhand whirls
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Jonan
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Throwing in a chop to reset the rally a little is really effective. Legout did it all the time with plenty of success. |
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bull_harrier
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that was cool watching kreanga pull a joo at about 6:50 i think
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The video is squished. |
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chris.b40
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lack of confidence and finishing power was her undoing I could see the excitement to finish the point,the tendency to be rushed at that critical stage surely at this level I expected more professionalism from the loser.
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JimT
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There really could be something to that - I am 6`1" and I sometimes wish I were a little closer to the ground when I play. But then again, I am able to get to some fast cross shots by simply stretching and reaching with my arm... so it's a trade-off... I think I simply needs to lose another 10 pounds and get a bit more stamina in me... |
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benfb
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I agree that both players have that reputation for looking slow or lazy, but it doesn't necessarily mean that they are. Waldner always had the reputation for being slower or looking lacsidasical. However, I heard from someone who should know that Waldner was actually one of the very fastest, even among the greats. The difference was that his anticipation was so good that it never looked like he needed to move much because he was already there, waiting for the ball.
That's really a side comment to my first idea. It is true that a shorter person would have to move more. However, consider this analogy: you're going to have a race, such as 5 km. The short guy has to run the normal way, but the tall guy has to run squatted very low to the ground. That tall guy is going to have very sore thighs by the end of the race.
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Cyrilix
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But then again, taller people don't have to move as much or as far. Samsonov and Oh Sang Eun both have "lazy" looking games, so surely they must be saving that energy for when they need to move. |
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benfb
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I've seen Vladi give up on a few other matches. Sometimes I think he just has a bad day and figures it's a lost cause anyway. However, this time I have a new theory.
While all pro level TT is athletically strenuous, I would argue that it's harder on taller people. They weigh more and it's a lot harder on the legs to stay low. If you watch Wang Liqin, you'll see that is not merely very athletic, but he is looks like 1% body fat. Vladi is very fit and athletic, I am sure, but perhaps not as much as Wang Liqin. And he's taller, to boot, making it even harder on his body. I think that sometimes he runs out of gas. Not in an obvious way, where he can't move, but in a more subtle way, where his timing isn't quite as precise. And at that elite level, losing a bit of timng is everything.
Anyway, that's my new theory.
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Rich215
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wow......pongp thank you so much, highly appreciated!
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pongp
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http://nos.nl/video/135004-li-jiao-succesvol-in-dusseldorf.html
this is only the final set, and comment in dutch...
there are other videos on the site of semi final
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TTNoobie
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anyway to watch the women's final? Sounds like a great match
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I was there with my GF and there were some really good matches, the atmosphere was excellent and the crowd showed their appreciation. A million miles away from the English Open where there was very little atmosphere and the distance between crowd and finals table was huuuuuge, here in Dusseldorf the action was closer ( Im guessing it is like this in most places, UK cant organise a piss up in a brewery when it comes to Top Class TT)
The ladies final was for me the most enthralling match of the tournament, nip and tuck all the way, you didnt know who was going to win until the last point, great match. The Mens final was a slight anti climax after Boll winning the 4th game after being 8-1 down. Some great points, Samsonov gave up after that, body language said it all. Boll seemed to struggle with Chen in the group matches yet Samsonov blew him away, its interesting how different styles match up, I think Boll has a big psychological advantage now over Samsonov, who is still brilliant. Boll has won the ET12 5 times to Samsonov 4 times, and 4 of Bolls wins have been against Samsonov!! Id like to see the head to head of these 2 players. Boll always seems to win now. Other highlights for me were seeing Kreanga unleashing some amazing Backhands and I was really impressed with the allround skill of Kristina Toth, she was lobbing and occasionally chopping away from the table like Maze does, particularly agains Daniela Dodean and Paskausiane. Only disappointment was that Maze couldnt play... |
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yeah, it was disheartening to see--i was actually predicting vladi would win. i know it appears that he "gave up," but the problem for him is that boll just keeps getting the balls back, no matter where he goes, how hard he rips or how difficult the shot he makes, it just keeps coming back, with interest (and an occasional net). also, he has technical issues that i think boll is well aware of. there's 2 shots that boll has that vladi consistently misses (unlike the chinese & korea's oh sang eun), that being the inside-out fh from the bh side down the line and the outside-in bh cross-court. he consistently misses those 2 shots and so, no matter how deep a hole boll gets into, against vladi, he can always hit himself out of it. they both know that. so, you can't blame vladi for giving up after being up 8-1. cuz he's been up 3-1 in games on a coupla occasions recently and boll still came back and won. |
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lild100
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very true!
and yeah he was incredable at the world cup!
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JimT
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Sheesh... again Vladi didn't break through. He was pretty close but after he lost that 4th set (leading 8-1 !!) he kinda gave up, I guess.Which is disheartening to me since I would like him to show character and fight - I think he was missing that lately (except for WCup 2009, probably).
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Hans Regenkurt
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I agree fully.
I like Kreanga' frank playing style better than Timo's though I admit Timo is better. |
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Boll - Kreanga ; Boll - Samsonov ...
Timo Boll : he can play on higher speed, than all Europeans, but it is not enough against Chineses.IMHO.
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menikmati
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I saw it live! Quite impressing how Boll recovered at 1:8 and 1:2 and just rocked the match. I really thought Samsonov will win the match because it was just amazing how he played against chen weixing...
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Here you can see the Highlights of the Final of the Europe Top 12 in D�sseldorf between Timo Boll and Vladimir Samsonov.
A great Game http://www.youtube.com/user/TableTennisDaily#p/u/0/mHNJsOm0aOA Greats from Germany Thommi |
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Totoro
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I would love to see the Li Jie vs Li Qian match. Someone upload please!
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