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Reporting the mass of your uncut rubbers |
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piligrim
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Brand: SpinLord Length: 170mm Width: 170mm |
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Yes, a lot of TT rubber sales are generated by ignorance. |
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Impossible task for a manufacture to label ever rubber..... There are way too many variances in cut sizes and weights within the same rubber production run. Even ESN rubbers of the same exact rubber, I have seen varying weights and different cut sizes. Though the ESN rubbers I use most....the amount of cut size difference is small but the weight difference can be bigger because of the sponge production does not allow for exact quality control of density, weight, thickness in a large piece that individual cuts come from. Good example of this is the production of the DHS sponges. So, for a manufacture to state any weight or cut size.....that would be harder to do than a manufacture putting the blade weights and exact thickness on the packaging. There are variances in production and if they did do this....you would see a blade weight listed more realistically as 85g +-12g. lol Rubbers would be worse. A rubber uncut weight could be 66g +- 8g, density 42 +- 4, thickness 2.2mm +-0.5mm, size 169x170 +- 6mm. lol |
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Brand: Nittaku
Model: Hammond Pro-beta Thickness: 1.9mm Colour: black Size: 169x179mm Weight: 58g Density (g/cm2)=0.192
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@Rich 215
Wait a second, Rich, they do report the weight of the blades as a median, why not do that for the weight/area parameter of the rubbers? It still would be very useful. Yes, you are right there is variability, but is it really that large?
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(1) Juic SBA (Fl, 85 g) with Bluefire JP3 (red max) on FH and 0.6 mm DR N Desperado on BH; (2) Yinhe T7 (Fl, 87 g) with Bluefire M3 (red 2.0) on FH and 0.6 mm 755 on BH.
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Brand: Stiga 0.222 g / cm2 |
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(1) Juic SBA (Fl, 85 g) with Bluefire JP3 (red max) on FH and 0.6 mm DR N Desperado on BH; (2) Yinhe T7 (Fl, 87 g) with Bluefire M3 (red 2.0) on FH and 0.6 mm 755 on BH.
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While I agree with you that it would be useful, perhaps ask yourself this question: "What's in it for them?". I think that by giving a weight, they may potentially lose part of their potential customers, who might dismiss it purely based on the weight. |
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Yes, I thought exactly the same thing, but then for the blades the weights are reported... I don't know... |
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(1) Juic SBA (Fl, 85 g) with Bluefire JP3 (red max) on FH and 0.6 mm DR N Desperado on BH; (2) Yinhe T7 (Fl, 87 g) with Bluefire M3 (red 2.0) on FH and 0.6 mm 755 on BH.
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Brand: Yasaka Model: Mark V Thickness: 2.0mm Color: Red Uncut Mass: 60g Size: 171mm x 172mm g/cm^2: 0.204 Brand: LKT Model: Rapid Speed Thickness: 2.0mm Color: Black Uncut Mass: 55g Size: 165mm x 164mm g/cm^2: 0.203 |
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Database updated up to this point (finally, sorry guys!).
http://tabletennis-reviews.com/reference/rubber-sheet-mass-size-database |
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Brand: XIOM 0.2016 g / cm2 |
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(1) Juic SBA (Fl, 85 g) with Bluefire JP3 (red max) on FH and 0.6 mm DR N Desperado on BH; (2) Yinhe T7 (Fl, 87 g) with Bluefire M3 (red 2.0) on FH and 0.6 mm 755 on BH.
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Brand: NITTAKU 0.212 g / cm2 |
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(1) Juic SBA (Fl, 85 g) with Bluefire JP3 (red max) on FH and 0.6 mm DR N Desperado on BH; (2) Yinhe T7 (Fl, 87 g) with Bluefire M3 (red 2.0) on FH and 0.6 mm 755 on BH.
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Brand: NITTAKU 0.208 g / cm2 |
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(1) Juic SBA (Fl, 85 g) with Bluefire JP3 (red max) on FH and 0.6 mm DR N Desperado on BH; (2) Yinhe T7 (Fl, 87 g) with Bluefire M3 (red 2.0) on FH and 0.6 mm 755 on BH.
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HOW TO CALCULATE THE RACKET HEAD AREA BY USING A JEWELRY BALANCES.
Blade's head area (summary for 14 blades): Classic head shape. =200 cm2 Oversized head shape = 215 cm2 You may opt to find an exact area of blade(s) of your own. We would suggest a witty methode to calculate the head area using a precise digital balances (reading to 0.01g) plus A4 sheet of hard cardboard material. I like it best of all, for invariably giving me true results. 1. Copy down the racket head onto the cardboard sheet and cut the contour out. 2. Find weight of the cutting (W) 3. Cut out a 10x10cm rectangle from the head shape and weigh up the rectangle (P) 4. The racket head area (S) = W/P x 100 cm2 Have a fun !!! |
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Acuda S3 Max: 58.5 grams uncut.
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Blade: Hurricane Long 5 (968) FL
FH: D09C max BH: D09C max |
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What are the dimensions of the sheet?
Edited by JacekGM - 09/08/2013 at 11:12pm |
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(1) Juic SBA (Fl, 85 g) with Bluefire JP3 (red max) on FH and 0.6 mm DR N Desperado on BH; (2) Yinhe T7 (Fl, 87 g) with Bluefire M3 (red 2.0) on FH and 0.6 mm 755 on BH.
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Brand: Tibhar 0.193 g / cm2 Brand: Tibhar 0.190 g / cm2 |
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Brand: Palio
Rubber ID/Model: CJ 8000 Biotech (jap sponge 36-38) Thickness: max Color: black Uncut Mass: 66 g Length: 165 mm Width: 166 mm |
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Tibhar Evolution MX-P
Thickness: 2.1-2.2 Black 169*179 (I've checked it twice ) weight: 73 |
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Why the information about this rubber wasn't being updated in the Rubber Database? |
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Database updated up to this point. Thanks for all the entries guys, the list continues to grow well!
You can see the list here: http://tabletennis-reviews.com/reference/rubber-sheet-mass-size-database |
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Brand: Nittaku
Rubber ID/Model: Flyatt Hard Length: 169 mm Width: 180mm |
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Brand: Tibhar
Rubber ID/Model: MX-P Thickness: 2.1-2.2 Colour: Red Uncut Mass: 72 gr. Length: 169 mm Width: 178mm |
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Brand: Xiom
Rubber ID/Model: Omega IV Pro Thickness: 2.2 Colour: Red Uncut Mass: 70 gr. Length: 169 mm Width: 168 mm |
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Brand: Xiom
Rubber ID/Model: Omega IV Pro Thickness: 2.0 Colour: Red Uncut Mass: 64.5 gr. Length: 169 mm Width: 168mm |
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Brand: Darker
Rubber ID/Model: VLON-S Blue V Thickness: 2.2 Colour: Black Uncut Mass: 75 gr. Length: 167 mm Width: 167mm Edited by ashishsharmaait - 11/05/2013 at 3:26am |
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Thank you, list updated up to this point!
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I have the exact same values on the red sheet of Rhyzm regular (48deg). 70g |
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Brand: Donic
Rubber ID / Model: Baracuda Big Slam Thickness: Max Color: Black Uncut Mass: 62g Length: 168mm Width: 168mm |
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Hallmark Carbon Extreme (x3)
FH: D05/G1/RX BH: Z2/D64/Ω7Pro |
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