GAC GROUP 2012 ITTF World Tour, Japan open Open

ejmaster wrote: shibaev and mizutani played very well.   this is the best tournament i have seen for both of them.   being in a similar style of game there is a noticeable difference in the playing level about mizutani and niwa. mizutani moves more consistent and has better strokes. more arm power, more dynamics.   j.mizutani very focused under pressure. with a lot of resources to handle the pressure and the game.

LOOPMEISTER wrote: mrdoodzki wrote: take away the chinese and timo boll, mizutani really seems to stand out as the best player in the world Yep, other than maybe JSH, Mizutani seems to be the next best player after Timo and the top Chinese. Ovtcharov is catching up, though. Dima burned through the Europe Top 12 like they were amateurs.

jun bested dima in their last two meetings in a singles event (harmony china open 2011 and austria open 2011), but it was other way around in wtttc 2012 and euro-asia 2012. jun seems to be pretty solid in singles events but suck in team events

AJay wrote: I enjoy watching Shen YF give others a hard time with her specialty style.     Afterall, if I am not mistaken she is the only left handed shakehand FH PIP player at the top level. After watching the first game in the final, I thought Kim KA would win since Shen's flat hits were not bothering her.    However, Shen started mixing in loops and pushes.

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Edited by skip3119 - 06/11/2012 at 1:55pm

she beat ding ning and feng.

skip3119 wrote: she beat ding ning and feng. =====================   In what tournament?

Couldn't find Ding Ning and Shen Yanfei on ITTF singles from 2012 to 2007.
Maybe that is China Super League game?

Shen Yanfei highest wr was 15 (July 2011)

Excuse me, my previous comment above was in reply to TTNoobie's comment.
Typical beginner...

TTNoobie wrote: lol ittf and its umpires are a big joke.  Match between Ishikawa and Liu Jia,  Liu Jia up 3-2 in games,  and Ishikawa was issued a yellow card.  6th game and Ishikawa is up 11-10,  and the umpire issues Ishikawa a RED card for kicking the ball,  this gives Liu Jia the point and the service!  WOW  but Ishikawa starts crying(!) and since it's in Japan the crowd gets into it and some Japanese official gets called in to sort things out.   Unbelievable, the red card gets revoked and Ishikawa eventually ends up winning to tie the match at 3-3! This is the pro leagues?  Start crying and a red card in a crucial moment can get revoked?  Ittf is a joke league   and Ishikawa wins the 7th game,  so unprofessional,  I wonder if Maze starts crying about a red card it'll get revoked

ZApenholder wrote: Couldn't find Ding Ning and Shen Yanfei on ITTF singles from 2012 to 2007. Maybe that is China Super League game? Shen Yanfei highest wr was 15 (July 2011)

Yellow Card - umpire warns Ishikawa for misbehaving as she called let during service return.

Red Card - umpire gives it as Ishikawa kicks a ball after she wins a beautiful shot. No body had any idea what happens, including Ishikawa, and Liu Jia.

1) Now why would the umpire think Ishikawa want to kick a ball? Do you get in trouble if it was by accident?
2) Why did the umpire award the point to Liu? I didn't even know such a rule existed.

I can understand why Ishikawa cried, she was bullied in public by that nasty umpire, and thank goodness for the hero (match referee) coming to save the day, otherwise we will see ninja stars aiming for that useless umpire


Edited by ZApenholder - 06/19/2012 at 5:09pm

AJay, so Red card offense equals giving one point away?

misbehaving for calling let? ROFL

TTNoobie wrote: lol ittf and its umpires are a big joke.  Match between Ishikawa and Liu Jia,  Liu Jia up 3-2 in games,  and Ishikawa was issued a yellow card.  6th game and Ishikawa is up 11-10,  and the umpire issues Ishikawa a RED card for kicking the ball,  this gives Liu Jia the point and the service!  WOW  but Ishikawa starts crying(!) and since it's in Japan the crowd gets into it and some Japanese official gets called in to sort things out.   Unbelievable, the red card gets revoked and Ishikawa eventually ends up winning to tie the match at 3-3! This is the pro leagues?  Start crying and a red card in a crucial moment can get revoked?  Ittf is a joke league   and Ishikawa wins the 7th game,  so unprofessional,  I wonder if Maze starts crying about a red card it'll get revoked

Someone finally posted a video of this incident (for some reason, the match wasn't available on itTV on demand). What's unprofessional and absurd is the umpire's decision to penalize Ishikawa, not Ishikawa's behavior. Where does she kick the ball? How does that deserve a second yellow?? Fortunately this awful call was reversed by the referee.




Edited by amateur - 06/20/2012 at 5:12pm

dingyibvs wrote: LOOPMEISTER wrote: ejmaster wrote: shibaev and mizutani played very well.   this is the best tournament i have seen for both of them.   being in a similar style of game there is a noticeable difference in the playing level about mizutani and niwa. mizutani moves more consistent and has better strokes. more arm power, more dynamics.   j.mizutani very focused under pressure. with a lot of resources to handle the pressure and the game.   I don't find MJ's and Koki Niwa's style any more similar to each other than any 2 other players are similar to each other. Except that they are left handed, offensive (vs. chopper), and Japanese, that's where the similarities end.   Yea, Niwa stays way closer to the table than Mizutani, take the ball off the bounce a lot more.  Very different styles.