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shrisan
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Yes i could get that good feeling more on FH today.. plus some changes needed in defence since Coppa has softer topsheet than Mantra M How long are you playing with Mantra M, how durable and consistent has it been with time
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Clarence247
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Well, this year I have not played a lot, I play in a league every Friday for 2-3 hours, but I very rarely train mid-week. I attached the rubber in March 2019, and it is still perfectly good. So I can confirm that it is durable. I did not boost it or anything, however, Since I attached it, basically I spent 3 weeks playing everyday for 3-4 hrs, then I played only once a week on average with some weeks being twice a week. However, I am not one of those players who needs a rubber to play exactly like new, nevertheless, I'd say there was less than a 10% drop in performance. Also Remember that currently Mantra M is on my BH with MX-P on my FH - my game is FH looper, BH blocker / hitter, opening loop. I always try to get into a position for my FH if I can, so I think I hit less with my BH in a game than with my FH. Maybe if you are particular and want peek performance, u could change a sheet after 6 months, but for me, I just don't need to. It still has 95% of it's power and spin.
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MX-P (Max) Mantra M (Max) Backup: Yasaka Extra Offensive, Nittaku H3 Prov 729-802 SP |
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shrisan
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That sounds good and maybe better than most ESN rubbers in terms maintaining quality for longer.
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pingpungpeng
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coppa gold is actually a great rubber.
it has more control in the short game than the newer tensor rubbers. when you hit hard it offers the same speed.
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Baal
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The stuff is really fragile around the edges. You can get used to anything but this is a really old approach to getting a "speed glue effect rubber" and I really think there are much better options now.
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pingpungpeng
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indeed if you grab a bluestorm it's faster, more springy, when you loop get a better arc.....
but in a match it's serve receive, block, maybe loop once or twice. the not so bouncy coppa gold with a rather sticky topsheet is great for this. I might become a man and go back to the coppa gold - donic persson powerplay - coppa gold setup
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shrisan
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What is your current setup Yes, there are some points about Coppa , and i wanted to keep those while moving to next rubber I feel Mantra M is a good step ahead atleast for BH, still early days to comment on FH
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pingpungpeng
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I don't really have a setup.... it depends on which way the wind is blowing. last setups I used were tibhar chila with joola rhyzer tibhar iv-l with tenergy 05 I think I even played a league match with the coppa gold and the persson powerplay back then. but later I sold everything.
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shrisan
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Coppa gold suits well with All wood blades and i am feeling so does Mantra M
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Baal
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The Karis sheets I have, made in same factory as Mantra, and similar in many respects, seem immortal,
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shrisan
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After playing with Mantra M for a week, i feel more interest in Karis.. What were the differences you found between Mantra and Karis
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Baal
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Mantra is generally faster, especially Mantra H, which most people who try them prefer to Mantra M. Karis can be just as fast as Mantra H but you need to really swing hard. Karis is better in the short game. The thing they both have is very short pips under the top sheet. However Karis takes that to an extreme, and I think the underlying sponge is slightly slower compared to Mantra H. The very short pips makes the deformation of the top sheet when the ball strikes a lot more predictable but it also means the rubber does less of the work for you. The overall effect is something that is very "linear" and predictable. A lot of people will not like that, especially if they are used to boosted fast rubbers. I very much like it. But I didn't like it the first couple of times I used it. Some other people who have used it maybe can chime in.
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shrisan
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Thanks, would you say that Karis plays closer to Mantra M in terms of regular speed and bit more linear than Mantra M
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Baal
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It's been awhile since I hit with either Mantra. If I remember correctly, Karis is more linear than either, midway between the two in terms of speed. I can use Karis and Mantra H.
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shrisan
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Thats interesting, revspin rating is lower speed than Mark V and which can misguide people from even trying it out
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