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liulin04
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jpenmaster
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When I saw this blade a while ago on the Japanese site the first blade i thought of was Timo Boll CAF.
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DarkerMyLove
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Is this Koto outer? (Butterfly has it listed with same "Reaction Property" as the Timo Boll/ZJK ZLC but less vibration. And a touch less "reaction" as Viscaria.)
Certainly a gift option for the EJ in your life that has 'everything'.
Very generous of butterfly to 'recommend' the Tenergy line for this blade and not Dignics |
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Simas
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the price is Economic logic IMHO says it's the price for early adopters. If everything goes ok, after some time Butterfly should release "simpler" blade with a reasonable price of 200USD Drop here! Edited by Simas - 02/26/2020 at 5:02am |
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And...440$, 294 $ for Harimoto super ZLC and ZLC blades….. |
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timoboll89
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well this blade will be an instant classic to collect in case playing properties will be good
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purpletiesto
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This blade is actually amazing.
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Simon_plays
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Suspicious release date...-- Estimated Arrival 4/1/2020
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sunny
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Can anyone share their thoughts on blade vibration, there is more mention of it in recent years, past I never saw that mentioned by Butterfly when they brought new blades out.
What is good less vibration or more and why?
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SmileTT
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I don't like these newer descriptions either. I much more preferred their chart that depicted speed and spin ratings as well as including the feeling of softness or hardness. The feelings of vibrations are based on your own personal preference.
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What does CNF stand for ?
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windysummer1
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Maybe there will be a zlc or super zlc or inner version for the Lin Gaoyuan blade
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SmileTT
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Cellulose Nano-fiber
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sunny
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In essence looks like Butterfly is expanding wood blade feeling with wood fiber for power. I used to hear chinese top players like wood blades compared with carbon layered ones to get better feel and control and use the rubber for better spin. Power they generate from their body weight transfer. This racket may be good once we know reviews in wood blade control and still allowing power to be generated from the blade.
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Veet
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Just remembered that Butterfly has another blade called Timo Boll CAF, comprising of some sort of Fiber material derived from wood ..
I wonder what CAF (Butterfly calls it Control Assist Fiber) really is, and the difference between CAF & CNF... Timo Boll CAF is less than half the price of the Revoldia CNF
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since it is cellulose shouldnt it be called plantilium?? Hahahah
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Charlie Brown
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if it's all wood shouldn't it be 7ply wood vs 5 ply plus 2 CNF?
btw as to the "price" it's sold out already Edited by Charlie Brown - 03/01/2020 at 1:51pm |
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sunny
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Is their any top level player using this blade? No news anywhere except its the new blade coming April 1st
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kuifje
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That's just paper, isn't it?
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sunny
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Can anyone point me or knows how to get speed and control for this blade. Past we used to get speed and control for blades and I have not purchased recently, still using Jun Mizutani Super ZLC, trying to figure if there is alternative blade which has higher control and this could be it but don't quite know how to find that detail
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DarkerMyLove
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Butterfly lists only as "reaction" (speed) and "vibration" (feel).
Revoldia CNF seems to be a touch slower than Viscaria but *MORE* vibrations. (edited March 8) For their newer blades in Butterfly's description they do recommend rubbers and interestingly they recommend Tenergy line for this Revoldia. (for the new Harimoto zlc and super zlc they recommend Dignics line) Garaydia T5000 Reaction: 13.6 | Vibration: 14.5 MIZUTANI SUPER ZLC Reaction: 12.5 | Vibration: 11.6 VISCARIA Reaction: 11.8 | Vibration: 10.3 Revoldia CNF Reaction: 11.7 | Vibration: 9.5 BOLL ZLC Reaction: 11.7 | Vibration: 10.8 Edited by DarkerMyLove - 03/08/2020 at 8:24pm |
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Was only able to hit with it for 10 minutes, couldn't get enough feel for the blade. I didn't feel that much vibration, but then again, it could also have been the 09c also on there, wish I had more time with it. It did have a solid hit to it. The handle felt shorter in length to my donics blade.
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vik2000
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Seems like lower vibration score indicates higher vibration? I can't imagine Viscaria having less vibration than Mizu SZLC and T5000.
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DarkerMyLove
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Yes you are absolutely correct. Higher value should indicate less vibration.
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Ray
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Butterfy Revoldia CNF review by Brian Pace: |
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andzejgolot
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Buy apolonia Put faster rubbers
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4 posts in an almost all of them not helpful. To answer the actual question: BTY introduced "Vibration" and "Reaction" - vibration gives you an idea for the feel of the blade - i.e. higher vibration means the feel is more muted and the blade more "steady", lower vibration means that you have more feedback in the blade and it feels less muted. Reaction presents how quickly the ball leaves the blade; higher reaction means it leaves faster, leading to the impression of playing a "faster" blade (similar to frequency measurements, its an indication of subjective speed), lower reaction means the blade has more contact time with the blade, creating the impression of playing a "slower" blade (again, mainly subjective, for example HL5 feels relatively slow on low-impact shots, but feels very fast on high impact shots). hope that helps
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DonnOlsen
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Hi,
Very generous of butterfly to 'recommend' the Tenergy line for this blade and not Dignics Boy do I need help here. Can any of our most knowledgeable posters explain to the less developed the subtle or otherwise distinction Butterfly is making in recommending Tenergy here and not Dignics? It first seems surprising Butterfly would produce a new blade and recommend the not-most-current offensive rubber. A creeping sense of complexity is shadowing me. Thanks.
Edited by DonnOlsen - 03/09/2020 at 9:46pm |
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h0n1g
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my only guess is that they tested softer rubbers to work better with the blade. Another guess could be that the blade is low catapult.
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sunny
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Thanks H0n1g
Edited by sunny - 03/10/2020 at 9:45am |
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