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A personal invitation from Robert Blackwell - Event Date: 12/27/2009

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I hesitate to throw myself into the fray because I think arguing the popularity of TT in the U.S. versus other countries is futile.

However, one thing I will say that I think is "wrong" with some of the approaches to "popularizing" the sport is that many people don't want to take the sport as it is. That is, instead of accepting the sport as it is and then getting to know more about it, they want to change it to make it more accessible to them.
 
@icontek: I very much respect pretty much everything you have to say, in every thread in which I've encountered you. That is, I value your opinion even when I disagree with it. So please don't view what I'm about to say as being in the unecessarily taunting tone that takaaki has taken.
 
However, I've witnessed you critique the "third ball attack" strategy many times, saying that for most spectators, including yourself, it is boring. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, of course, but I feel such a perspective is a limitation. It's simply a fact that third ball attacks are a vital part of the game--boring or not. Personally, I love them... applying them or watching someone else. Ma Lin, the master of the third ball, is one of my favorite players to watch, even though I don't play c-pen anymore. That guy is just evil! Evil%20SmileLOL
 
I've played many sports throughout my life, and I cannot imagine a slower, more boring game than baseball. Yet, it is considered the A #1 American sport. I don't think it's the third ball attacks, or the frequent stops and starts of modern table tennis that are holding it back (in general). Personally, I think it's a result of two things: 1) Table tennis is a game that doesn't translate to TV very well. 2) It's a difficult sport to understand unless you play it.
 
I watched the same thing happen to the UFC. People would "Booo" every time the fights would go to the ground, but of course that's where the most technical aspects of the fight take place. It wasn't until the general audience came to understand the intricacies of grappling that they fully accepted the UFC and it has now taken off.
 
The point is, people don't understand the complexities of table tennis, and they can't be understood by watching it on TV. If more people play it, then more people will watch it.
 
But like I said, this is just speculation. It's futile to think we can put our finger on precisely what's "wrong" or how to "fix" it. Also, like I said, I hope we never do. I don't want to see table tennis popularized.
 
My > two cents. Wink
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Yeah, Ma Lin's third ball attack is absolutely electrifying. IMO, the way he moves, uses his body, the placement, power, speed, he generates and the fact he goes all or nothing makes it the most entertaining shot in TT.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote figgie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/17/2009 at 4:48pm
Originally posted by takaaki takaaki wrote:


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Originally posted by NickW NickW wrote:

Locally in Chicago, table tennis would be NOWHERE without Killerspin. Clubs are fragmented, there is no league system- team or individual,and there are no organized training development group camps for juniors.
 
 
You guys need to come to MN and learn a few things from our league systems ;)
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not to start a argument, but which state have the best TT system in the U.S? CA? MN? AZ? or else?
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Originally posted by spitfire spitfire wrote:

not to start a argument, but which state have the best TT system in the U.S? CA? MN? AZ? or else?
 
well, great question...
 
new thread starting in 3.. 2...1....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote theman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/17/2009 at 8:15pm
with regards to Anton's comment about UFC and how most fights would end up on ground...when i first watched early UFC, i could hear the boo's and i too would find it very frustrating to not see any action. However, being more appreciative of grappling and ground techniques, especially employed by gracie, taktarov or severn, i have grown to see the strategical side of the fight and rather more curious than angry to see what the opponents next move would be.

Anton's spot on with his own 2 points of understanding and translation to  tv
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote icontek Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/17/2009 at 11:10pm
takaaki, anton and any others interested in keeping the side discussion about TT popularity out of this thread can find it here:

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although i never liked their products (not because they are inferior or of poor quality but because they have rubbers similar to other brands with cheaper prices) killerspin and robert blackwell has been giving TT a lot of boost in promotions in the states. for a country who are so crazed in baseball, basketball, football and UFC, table tennis is so hard to reach out among americans so killerspin's promotions are better than no promotions at all.
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robert, i wish you could tour and expose biba more she attracts a lot of attention, don't you agree???
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i wish kreanga was coming this year, but i might stop over to catch some hot JOO action!
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he he he!LOL
 
mdjenders said "hot JOO action!"
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Originally posted by Heimdallalso Heimdallalso wrote:

he he he!LOL
 
mdjenders said "hot JOO action!"


He likes Joola 3 star balls maybe?    Wink

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