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varghesep
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Posted: 01/12/2007 at 10:46am |
Recently I'm practicing hard to improve my offensive game. I find I'm consistant to hit the balls (smash, counter) that come to medium distance on the table. I smash the ball from top of the table fast at the top of its bounce. The problem I have is I can't smash or counter the balls that comes in high tragectory to my fh or bh almost to the corner (loop shots by my opponent). I have also noticed, these looping shots go so high to the other court, no way to return at all sometimes. Sometimes I return the shots, and most of the time are weak returns and that causes a smash by the opponent. One mistake I'm making is I try to hit the ball the way I hit the ball from top of the table - too early. My qns are: 1. How to return the powerful loop shots? 2. How to prevent the opponent's high tragectory balls?
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idchong3
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"eat and brush it " forward and up.. you will get to counter like the pros... no matter how spinny the ball is... because you are hitting only.. you are using only 50% of the potential ball spin and speed...
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varghesep
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Does counter mean taking advantage of the ball's spin and speed that come from the opponent?
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O! Ju Qian
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off the bounce loop or mid distance counter drive. |
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pingpongpaddy
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I dont think you are playing too early. But hitting or driving the loop off the bounce is one of the most advanced shots. For normal fh you strike ball at highest point. This means you probably really focus on the ball as it bounces. To take it early you must focus on the ball while it crosses the net so you can hit it just as it hits the table. Start with blocking(no power just close angle), block-hit (a little power and small counter hit stroke) Then just carry on developing.Three keys are watch ball early in flight, keep head close to ball, compact controlled stroke. Your opp shot provides the power |
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ryu seungminfan
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wait for the ball to drop down more before chopping. u could post a video to show us your problems
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varghesep
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The shots that I'm talking about, the loop shots by the opponent, are hard to chop because it hits almost the corner in high tragectory (means so high and drops at the corner), and jumps to the next court. There are few players whose balls are low which I can chop, but the kinds of hard shots that I'm talking about are hard to chop. The problem that I'm noticing is there are few players highly successful in looping against my chops. |
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TT_Freak
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You might want to float the balls back if you aren't able to chop them, many top choppers such as Hou Yingchao use it when chopping would be a bad move.
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YATTP
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High trajectory loops are dangerous for a chopper if they are too short to chop properly. These shots needs to be blocked or attacked. You are a beginner, so blocking or smashing is best. Work on both.
One thing you have to remember is that these shots usually carry much spin but no speed. If you want to block them you have to make up for the lack of speed by really actively going forward *explosively* against the ball when blocking. This will give you a very spinny (you return his spin) and fast block if you have enough power to accelerate the ball enough. Don't swing at the ball. Wait for contact and then go forward explosively. Use your wrist and underarm. Guide the ball forward, make sure that you don't hit because this will take away control. The racket angle is usually OK at 45� or less closed. Do not close it more than 45� on a standard block at normal playing distance from the table. If the ball flies out, you have to push forward faster. You don't have to close the blade more. Make sure to contact the ball on the top part of your blade, not in the middle or too close to grip. This way you'll have more acceleration and better control. If the ball goes into the net, push forward faster or open the blade more. Whem trying to smash these balls use *lots* of body rotation for power. A smash needs to be as fast as possible. Turn your waist explosively and shift weight for forward momentum. There is no such thing as "Slow smashes" or "safety smashes" - especially against heavy spin. You need full power to overcome the spin on the ball. If you only use your arm for smashing, you will never be consistent. This works for balls that are close to the net, but not for long distance smashes. Use your entire body for consistency and power. |
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TT freak i sent u a message asking about the violin on another topic board just incase u dont read it there here it is again
How hard exactly is the violin? (also in comparison to other blades including accoustic,) and i assume that its the same wood used throughout the blade?. I hear its a good blade for serves, is this because its very thin? Also you said the feeling is very crisp and clear and tsubusa said it has "direct ball feeling" but is this mainly at higher speeds as in the faster u hit the better feeling u get and does it also has very clear feeling at low speeds for the short game and finally is the handle particularly comfortable? I know its thin which i like, Im just about to order one so i wanna make sure its the right blade for me. |
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damn ppl never reply here
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TT_Freak
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Sorry, I was caught up elsewhere most of the past week. Anyway if you've been playing long enough its very advisable to invest in a violin or acoustic (never tried the acoustic, the violin is plenty fast). If you could imagine a magical feeling when you make contact this is the closest thing to it, most blades today either vibrate too much or are dead. With the Violin feedback is clear and concise, well worth the pricetag and will last quite bit longer than custom blades.
PS: Most custom blade craftmen are fond of using balsa, it deteriorates very quickly. |
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????
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thanks, not that u answered any of the questions! but anyways it sounds like this is the perfect blade for my game so im gonna order it.
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