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vjramire
Member Joined: 02/08/2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6 |
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Posted: 02/08/2005 at 5:14pm |
any comments on this blade. is the extra dollars worth it for the arylate/carbon combination. i play offensive forehand (sriver g2) with defensive back long pips out no sponge (feint ox). i'm using a grubba pro blade which is too slow for me. -vince |
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khvn
Super Member Joined: 09/28/2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 496 |
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This is the fastest blade of BTY's carbon-Arylate series. It's a pure attacking blade and wouldn't be suitable for defensive rubber like feint ox...
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whp90
Member Joined: 11/03/2003 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 43 |
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Actually u can play offensive with the feint ox.
As long as you play close to the table. Make your long pips as a serve opener, blocker or driver. It will work nice with fast blade. You don't have to be defensive player if you play with long pips. whp90 |
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Gergely 21 ST
FH & BH Sriver G2 - Max |
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manaseth3
Super Member Joined: 11/22/2004 Location: Saudi Arabia Status: Offline Points: 166 |
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I have two Arylate carbon blades: Viscaria and KLHS. I would have bought Iolite instead of KLHS if it was available locally. Anyway, I am very happy that I bought KLHS as it is a very nice blade and somehow I find it different from Viscaria that actually is rated close to KLHS. Both blades have soft feel and are very light but I find KLHS having more power and handle is more compatable to my grip. Iolite is rated fast+. It is a thick (so heavier) blade like Sardius and Schalager carbon but supposed to have soft feel because of Arylate in it. I also find it strange that you want to use an ultra fast blade when you use ox rubber as backhand. Well, why not try such blade owned by a friend before you sacrifice a big amount for unknown. |
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ttnooblar
Super Member Joined: 08/26/2004 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 450 |
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just wondering if anyone has also tried the vsg1000 AND an iolite with similar rubbers? i am so tempted to try it out, but the vsg1000 is pretty sweet... anyone tried them both and care to explain how they're different?
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khvn
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ttnooblar, I don't know how your VSG1000 plays, but the Iolite feels very stable due to the Arylate. Its strongest suit is hitting & smashing. That said, I also found the Iolite + 2.1 Bryce letting me counter loop with ease and confidence from the deep away from the table. I haven't have a chance to find out how it does with flicking/looping short ball near the net though.
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vjramire
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I was told that Iolite does not have a lot of control and would be difficult to play with. I was also told that since the Iolite is super stiff, the ball would not have a lot of time to stay on the paddle with Feint Long-OX rubber and that it would just bounce off without the control. Would it be that hard to play with the long pips no sponge on this paddle? I think I would just normally buy this but this blade is expensive!! -vince |
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sprite
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A fast blade is not necessarily difficult to control; it is more a matter of style and perception. One of the top coaches in the If your style is getting more balls on the table than your opponent is capable of keeping up with a fast blade may not be the best selection for you, but if you aim to maneuver your opponent in order to pass him at the first possible opportunity a fast blade may be what you are looking for. Also, two of the best players in my state play with very fast blades; one uses various medium or long pips no sponge on his backhand and the other plays exclusively hard bat (short pips, no sponge) both are 2200 level players, one aged over forty and the other is over 50. Fast blades and control are not mutually exclusive with either inverted or orthodox rubber sheets. If you are accustomed to slower control type blades you might find something like the Iolite difficult to cope with because its behavior will be very different from what you are familiar with. On the other hand you may find it to be exactly what you always wanted. My first two blades were very fast and as I began to improve many players at the club I where I played at suggested I get a slower more flexible blade and focus on a forehand loop dominated style of play. I now wish I had never listened to them. My natural style is close to the table quick attack via flip, hit and loop and I has spending my time trying to be a forehand dominate mid distance looper; it proved to be a frustrating experience. The moral here is to know your style and use equipment that suits that style while also accommodating your personal preferences. That you use long pips no sponge on the backhand would suggest that a stiff blade with little flex and minimal vibration would normally be selected; the speed of that blade would be a matter of personal preference. I hope I have said something you might find to be helpful in selecting a new blade. The Iolite is a pricey piece of equipment and you might consider something less expensive in order to try a faster blade. I have not kept up with all the current blades available but the Stiga Clipper comes to mind as less expensive and suitable option for your style.
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sprite
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I failed to mention that if you are intent upon a carbon/arylate blade but are concerned about the speed of the Iolite the Maze blade would be a good option, though still pricey.
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kresimir
Member Joined: 10/20/2003 Location: Croatia Status: Offline Points: 48 |
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I experienced something similar like sprite. Other people made me try out slower blades, and it was hazarderous for my game. I had to execute completely different strokes and I was never sure that ball would lend on the other side of the table. I was gradualy increasing the speed of blades (expensive sport though) and was keeping the same (fast rubbers). Finnaly I discovered that relatively fast blade (Dicon for last 2 years, and now Carbo 7.6) + moderately fast rubber is the best combo for me. I am back to old strokes, feeling comfortable and look natural to me. Hope this helped. Cheers, |
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Stiga CARBO 7.6
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gordman9
Beginner Joined: 01/10/2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 53 |
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I jsut wanted to say, I have jsut put together my new Timo Boll Spirit with Sriver EL both sides, amazing combination, swtiches so easily from looping, blocking, smashing, everthing works perfectly. I am finding it extremely easy to get used to, I used to use a Stiga Titanium with magna and carbo, good for blocking and smashing, looping is terrible, rubbers way too tense, blade has too much vibration, not abl to generate spin (not enough, anyways). Although very powerful, cannot generate spin, many choice opportunities to loop turned into flat no spin blocks or drives. With this new setup I am able to deliver powerful loops from both wings, block, drive, punch veyr efficiently, smashing is as easy as a chinese man. chopping is difficult, and if ball is returned flat it will pop up veyr high, but any spin is amazing, veru consistant.
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Putting together a new setup. PM me if you've got a MMaze ST for sale!
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Jodo1
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Yes I have too a TBS Blade and two SRiver EL 2.1 It's really good combination but I think when i will buy rubbers for the FH I need someting elase (not sure what). The Weird thing was when I got my rubbers and play with them and after I reglue it I get a better control for long time - not only for caple hours, that was really weird . |
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eatmenot
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The iolite is superior to klhs, greater speed and control. the viscaria plays very similar to the iolite. the iolite has a very nice straight handle, its flared handle is very skinny on the other hand. the iolite is the better choice in my opinion.
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IIIIIIII
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does the iolite and stiga tube carbo has the same head size? i am thinking of switching blade but want to keep all rubbers with the same size. thanks alot!
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kimberman
Member Joined: 12/07/2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 22 |
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If your style is a hitter then the iolite is great and if your style is a horizontal looper then the Timbo sprite blade would do the trick but if your style is a arc looper then the Viscaria would be great for this.
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cole_ely
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I am carrying the 729 carbon arylate. It seems to be an excellent blade. Very fast and springy but very soft at the same time. It's beyond me though. I either hit an awesome shot or an awesomely bad shot when I use it. However I've sold two to 2000+ players and they both swear it's every bit as good as a 100+ butterfly arylate. One was pen though.
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rocket_luc15
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I have never seen anyone use a fast rubber like G2 with a slow no sponge rubber. Seems odd. |
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MildSeven
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Its the change of pace in his game that will catch you off guard, like every other modern defender
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