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-3db 
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 Topic: my special rubberPosted: 05/12/2007 at 10:10pm |
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Nittaku Violin C Haifu BW II National Version 37deg Sriver FX |
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ttman
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Posted: 05/12/2007 at 11:53pm |
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ive seen that before isnt that the sriver given to the sponsored teams and players?
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Posted: 05/13/2007 at 3:35am |
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yes I saw this too
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Posted: 05/13/2007 at 12:02pm |
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Ya, it's for the chinese national team
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Posted: 05/13/2007 at 1:40pm |
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so you have this rubber? how much did you pay for it $40 a sheet?
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ttman
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Posted: 05/13/2007 at 1:45pm |
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ive gotten some of the korean team kind and it did not come in any packaging, is this the same? mine had BD max on the sponge
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sunflex
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Posted: 05/13/2007 at 3:29pm |
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that's not korean team that's just a version for sponsored players
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Posted: 05/13/2007 at 5:47pm |
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i seen one of the chinese nat.team player yesterday with this same stamp on two shriver fx rubbers at the hong kong cup tournament.my comments are wow.the chopper /attacker was sooooo!!!! good.
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ttman
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Posted: 05/13/2007 at 6:01pm |
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ya some of the uni players in peking had this its sriver that has the exact hardness and is better quality or something
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forehandchop
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Posted: 05/13/2007 at 7:41pm |
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this is exactly what I have been telling all of you about different versions of Sriver. Some philippines jump on me when I mentioned different version and qualities of Sriver rubber.
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patrick1v
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Posted: 05/13/2007 at 7:51pm |
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this was the first time i have seen sriverfx rubbers with red stamp and the btfly emblem on it.the had a chopper there his forehand was so good.he was usiness i think tackiness wasn't sure if it was chop but definately tackiness put a hole lot of spin on ball when looping.
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yogi_bear
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Posted: 05/13/2007 at 11:34pm |
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the sriver above was for SPONSORED PLAYERS! not for the stores sold in singapore and NOT the ones you can just buy in any store!!! |
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Posted: 05/13/2007 at 11:43pm |
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btw FHC, the issue you brought up before was that singapore srivers are wayy wayy betetr than any other sriver sold in south east asia.. i never claimed that there is only one kind of sriver but i said the srivers sold in your place are no better than the ones sold at my place so before you make any stupid or misleading posts again pls try to read what -3db said, it was for the CHINESE NATIONAL TEAM AND NOT GOTTEN FROM STORES SOLD IN SINGAPORE!
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forehandchop
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Posted: 05/14/2007 at 12:44am |
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haha... please dont get upset if your country is getting lower quality Sriver, you can still play with it and it is still quite powerful and you wont probably notice it, unless you play at a very high level.
Last time I did mention 4 different version of Sriver. You and your country men did not believe me, just wait awhile all the proof will appear as people are now more observant and post their discovery here... like in this post.
The 4 different version of sriver are....
1. Sriver for sponsered players ( best quality )
2. Sriver for Japan only ( 2nd best quality )
3. Sriver for Table-Tennis Advanced Countries like Singapore ( 3rd best quality )
4. and finally.... Sriver for non table-tennis advanced country ( 4th best quality ).
haha... dont say I give stupid and inaccurate information. Because sooner or later you will find out what I say is true.
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rossicarbon
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Posted: 05/14/2007 at 3:17am |
Well it is true but it is the same as the normal version sold in store. HK team had 20 sheets directly made for them to used each year, but i was told by the coachig staff that it is the same thing as the normal version. The coaching staff from Hk told me that i would be wasting my money if i want to get them. They could sell it to me but it is not worth it. They cost about 40Aud.
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forehandchop
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Posted: 05/14/2007 at 3:58am |
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you already say "directly made for them"... else they just take a batch from their export product and give it to the HK team. Why would they want to waste time doing a special order ? Believe me, there is a big difference. The coaching staff obviously dont want you to have that Sriver. If it is the same, they will be happily sell it to you higher price and buy from their local shop replacement Sriver at cheaper price, easy money. It seems like they are reluctant to sell... they know it is better.
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yogi_bear
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Posted: 05/14/2007 at 4:52am |
and you're a high level player bah!!! anyway, it seems you can't understand what -3db posted on top since he said it is for those chinese national players, which means you're still insisting with your idiotic ideas that the one above is the one sold in singapore.. and pls spare me the "believe me" crap coz until now you've never posted the 4 kinds of srivers with pics.. the one above IS NOT THE ONE SOLD AT SINGAPORE NOR DID I AND MY COUNTRY MAN CLAIMED THAT THERE IS ONLY 1 KIND OF SRIVER.. we claimed that there are only 2 srivers.. the ones pro used and the ones sold in stores period! YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING AND STOP PRETENDING THAT YOU DO COZ IT WILL MAKE YOU LOOK MORE STUPID!
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Posted: 05/14/2007 at 4:54am |
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common sense FHC, if in the first place they are reluctant to sell them why mention it in the first place that they have those rubbers???? and hasn't it occur in your feeble mind that maybe you came across a pro sriver rather than the one you thought was the one sold in singapore? |
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Posted: 05/14/2007 at 4:58am |
 
MAYBE YOU HAVN'T INTERNALIZED THE MEANING OF THIS POST ABOVE FHC?? DOES IT SAY SOMETHIGN ABOUT THIS SRIVER BEING SOLD AT SINGAPORE? He only posted a the pic above and confirmed that it was for the chinese national players and you jumped to conclusions that this is the proof that singapore and some other "1st class tt nation" have betetr sriver qualities wowwww!! nice logic!!!! from a guy who suggested to an inquirer about a good attacking blade with control and suggest a boll tri carbon i dont think people will believe you! coz all you show is crap and never proofs! btw, the "believe me i know this that crap thing" is not a valid arguement!
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Posted: 05/14/2007 at 5:19am |
It is not that because of the contractual rights that the associations have with butterfly. HK belongs to CHINA, whichever CHINA have HK is eligible to have that equipment as well.
HK has a seperate admin so if the players do not think that equipment is good, they will not get alot but they still get them as they must oblique with the contract. Most HK players used palio on their backhand not sriver only a few odd one that still use sriver.
At the start of the year when i heard about this "sponsored version", i asked them and they offered to me 10 sheets of this type of sriver.They also mentioned to me, if i do not like it,don't complained!!!
The feedback from the HK players that this type of sriver is basically the same as the one which sold in store. May be because their levels are high so they could just use the normal sriver.
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Posted: 05/14/2007 at 5:55am |
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anyway, dont have to be so upset :)
Like I said, sooner or later someone will show you proof that there are different quality of commercial sriver sold in shops in japan, shops in advanced tt countries and shops of non advanced tt countries.
Very unfortunately I have dispose my proof of srivers bought from Malaysia. You can visibily see and feel the difference in the sponge, they also have special codings printed on the sponge when compared to Srivers from Singapore commercial shops.
Like I said many times, its up to you to believe or not.
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Posted: 05/14/2007 at 8:43am |
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fhchop, you're difently wrong with the 4 types of sriver and the levels they correspond to
if the sriver in the picture is for sponsored players, it must be for only the top sponsored players in world i often train with a fully sponsored butterfly player (#300 and something in the world) and in the past i've used her old (14days old) rubbers.. and they're just like ordinary butterfly sriver rubbers.. play the same and look the same..no special stamp etc. this must be for players more of the level of chinese national team etc. not just fully sponsored people |
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Posted: 05/17/2007 at 10:09am |
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I wonder if their bersion of sriver is like our sriver g2 and their sriver fx is our sriver g2fx
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Posted: 05/17/2007 at 10:41am |
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Nah, I think pro's who speed glue heavilly probably stick with the standard variety they're used to.
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Posted: 05/17/2007 at 12:42pm |
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my friend ordered a sriver d 13 rubber directly from iruiru and it appears to be softer than the one i got.
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Posted: 05/17/2007 at 2:27pm |
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So I guess we can all agree then that even mighty Butterfly has quality control issues.
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Posted: 05/17/2007 at 4:49pm |
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i think H3 has the worst quality issue. well, butterfly is jap company, so it makes sense to say that the rubbers over there are better. i am not saying that the rubbers in here are different from the ones made in japan, but i would say that they know how to keep the rubbers fresh and well protected from the air. quality of the rubber is decreased here because not many people play table tennis, and dealers would not want to restock fresh ones in. |
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Posted: 05/17/2007 at 5:27pm |
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does anyone know the meaning of the characters on the sponge? is it katakana?
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Posted: 05/19/2007 at 2:16pm |
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The bottom part says that the rubber is from such and such factory in Japan. The top part is trickier to know. The first character is Il in Korean, meaning not or no. The last one is easy, material, stuff, goods. I can't find the middle one anywhere, nor can I determine the radical. I can only guess that the meaning is "Not for Sale" or "Not for the Public", or Not for Export" or " Not for Regular Sale" .......
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Posted: 05/19/2007 at 5:52pm |
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those words are all in simplified chinese.... top row says this product is not for sale, and bottom row says japan butterfly company
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