dont forget to drop a short review.. ;)

 

this is what I can explain why its so good it is super fast and low throw but catches the ball perfectly

its as though because of its throw when loop or drive it the angle makes you hit the wood directly so you get more power than say tenergy which I have to graze it to stay low. 

 

Im so in love ddddddddddaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmm

help me get a sheet for me - the sheet i used was red.. so is the black any different? more or less elastic?

 

do you remember whats the cj8000 version that you were using before?cause there's like 50+ versions of this rubber.and they say that the black topsheet is spinnier than the red one.

 

i am looking for a cheaper replacement for my Bigslam and i only want soft & light rubbers with sound (any suggestions? i already own a Boost TC, perhaps Boost TS ? any reviews?)

 

should be ok if it's under 40

 

if it has that soft bouncy feel with a medium throw it's a keeper, kinda cheap to, i will include it in my next order

 

that sounds about right

 

one more question and sorry for the double post, how soft would you rate it on the tensor hardness table?

 

The CJ8000 Biotech from Fastpaddle.com is glued at the factory and they are well made. So to separate the one's from the factory is difficult.

 

If you want the sponge or top sheet, just order them separately.

 

I find the Palio rubbers are easy to get used to and they last a long time. I used them on my TBS so the power is fine.

 

This is what I'm trying next:

 

http://fastpaddle.com/tt/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=7_18&products_id=44 - http://fastpaddle.com/tt/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=7_18&products_id=44

 

Thanks for your responses guys.  I should clarify, I'm not trying to separate the topsheet from the sponge.  I asked because I don't want the topsheet/sponge to separate easily.

 

@ jt

 

Thanks for that link.  I've never heard of them but I might get the HK1997 Biotech as well.  I just wish it was 36-38 degrees and I'm not sure if they have the $1 shipping for two sheets.

Thanks.  I guess not everyone can have $1 shipping like Cole, Tom or TTArmory

 

@ Deb

Have you tried separating the topsheet from the sponge on the leftover cutout? On most Friendship rubbers, you'll rip the pips if you try this.

@ Deb

Have you tried separating the topsheet from the sponge on the leftover cutout? On most Friendship rubbers, you'll rip the pips if you try this.

 

You can probably have better luck with a clean separation if you drip some Bestine rubber cement thinner (let it sit for 15 to 20 seconds) between the top sheet and the sponge first.

On my TBS, the Biotech was a good all around rubber. It was easy to loop, block and chop. I used the CJ8000 for the U-1900 League play and my record was 13-3. (two of my losses were to 2000+ players)

Its the BATTF league. (San Francisco Bay Area) Now they are allowing a 'two-person' team because some other members cannot make the league play. If they can't make it, why sign up in the first place?

 

sorry...off topic.

 

I guess it depends on your level of play or style. Many 1600-1800 players seem to find it dependable and powerful enough. But then, they aren't usually the ones using Schlagers and Gergelys (an even split between the US1000 and US2000 crowd)...

1. 36-38 would be very similar to sriver el hardness.  39-41 to sriver l.  i have sheets right in front of me for reference to confirm this.

3. the cj8000 is only mildly tacky; its a soft topsheet so really suits a more euro stroke (the harder sponge like 42-44 works with chinese style loop drive).  the black will pick a ball for just a second or so when brand new, red almost none.  for palio rubbers, the hadou is the tackiest, about the same tack as haifu stuff (still nowhere near as tacky as a hurricane).

 

hope i pass the test .