Great rally @ Westchester Feb14 Open
Printed From: Alex Table Tennis - MyTableTennis.NET
Category: Table Tennis Communities
Forum Name: Worldwide
Forum Description: tournament announcement, results, etc.
URL: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=65283
Printed Date: 04/28/2024 at 10:43am
Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 12.01 - http://www.webwizforums.com
Topic: Great rally @ Westchester Feb14 Open
Posted By: andy.h
Subject: Great rally @ Westchester Feb14 Open
Date Posted: 02/25/2014 at 3:54pm
| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg1kYtS8Fnk&edit=vd&t=29m35s" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg1kYtS8Fnk&edit=vd&t=29m35s |
Replies:
Posted By: liulin04
Date Posted: 02/25/2014 at 4:01pm
|
at what time in the video is the rally ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35056&PN=14&title=feedback-liulin04" rel="nofollow - My Feedbacks |
Posted By: hookumsnivy
Date Posted: 02/25/2014 at 5:20pm
| The time is in the link. I like how Eugene calls time out after that to catch his breath. |
Posted By: Tinykin
Date Posted: 02/25/2014 at 6:26pm
|
That scoreboard. I assume it's a normal monitor hooked up to a PC. Is the software generally available? ------------- Blade: Darker Speed90 Rubber Fh and Bh DHS Hurricane 3, 39/38deg Delusion is an asset |
Posted By: assiduous
Date Posted: 02/25/2014 at 8:50pm
|
man, this guy has a nice away from the table BH. I am trying to develop something like that myself. Funny, in practice drills I am actually pretty consistent, but in match I can't force myself to stay neutral, always turn my body slightly to favor FH, and I never seem to be in a good position for that shot. ------------- puppy412 : Sorry man, I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but I know that more training will make me better, I don't need to come here to figure that out |
Posted By: hookumsnivy
Date Posted: 02/25/2014 at 9:03pm
If I remember correctly, it is controlled via a tablet (ipad I think). There is a small box (maybe a roku, or apple tv or something similar) connected to the TV that you can see on top. That's all I know.
|
Tinykin wrote:Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 02/25/2014 at 11:21pm
A bit unrelated to the thread but: he plays with soft rubber on his BH (T05 fx - I saw his blade last year at a local tournament). So does Bochao Li (ex-CNT, Polish Super League player in NJ) who has a good away from the table BH as well. ------------- Trade feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787 |
Posted By: schen
Date Posted: 02/26/2014 at 12:32am
Will Shortz (the owner) told me that it was a custom app they had programmed and it's synced to the TV's wirelessly via Apple TV from an iPad. ------------- http://bit.ly/1clQmfp" rel="nofollow - Feedback | http://bit.ly/1rcjTiH" rel="nofollow - FOR SALE - updated Mar 19 Dynasty / H3 / H3 |
Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 02/26/2014 at 1:08am
|
24 strokes for the kid to get the point; that was hard work! ------------- /forum/topic91512_page1.html#1124698" rel="nofollow - sales - forum_posts.asp?TID=19315" rel="nofollow - feedback |
Posted By: mhnh007
Date Posted: 02/26/2014 at 6:40am
| Looks to me like Eugene Wang has figured out how to beat the kid, and just let him play to entertain the crowd. |
Posted By: jrscatman
Date Posted: 02/26/2014 at 2:16pm
|
Nice match - thanks for posting! ------------- Butterfly MPS FH: Donic Acuda S1 BH: Palio CK531A OX |
Posted By: assiduous
Date Posted: 02/26/2014 at 5:12pm
i had that same feeling. He looked all too comfortable countering everything, but to me it appeared he always tried to land the ball back on the table softly. ------------- puppy412 : Sorry man, I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but I know that more training will make me better, I don't need to come here to figure that out |
Posted By: assiduous
Date Posted: 02/26/2014 at 5:48pm
what blade did he use? ------------- puppy412 : Sorry man, I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but I know that more training will make me better, I don't need to come here to figure that out |
Posted By: Matt Pimple
Date Posted: 02/26/2014 at 5:50pm
------------- OSP Ultimate; Dr. Neubauer Dominance Spin Hard max, Dr. Neubauer Troublemaker 0.5 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55835&title=feed-back-for-matt-pimple" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Purett
Date Posted: 02/27/2014 at 3:16pm
|
im just wondering how that kid stays that good without practice ------------- rating solid 1000 moving up to 1001 |
Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 02/27/2014 at 9:10pm
Both use Viscaria. Eugene used to use IF-ZLC prior to this. ------------- Trade feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787 |
Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 02/27/2014 at 9:16pm
He doesn't practice? I thought he'd be ever present at Westchester TTC ... ------------- Trade feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787 |
Posted By: Purett
Date Posted: 02/27/2014 at 9:18pm
|
he is but hardly ever practicing i mean his level practice ------------- rating solid 1000 moving up to 1001 |
Posted By: GMan4911
Date Posted: 02/27/2014 at 10:21pm
| I heard that Kai trains at the Lily Yip TTC |
Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 02/27/2014 at 10:32pm
You heard wrong... ------------- Trade feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787 |
Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 02/27/2014 at 10:37pm
|
I find his footwork more amazing than his BH. He's going to gain some power as he gets a little bigger. He hasn't reached his ceiling yet. ------------- Trade feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787 |
Posted By: GMan4911
Date Posted: 02/27/2014 at 11:06pm
I remember where I read it - in this thread http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=54190" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=54190 He trains at NJTTC. Don't know if that is still current though.
|
Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 02/27/2014 at 11:12pm
Wrong again  I started that thread. He was much later, living with the owner of the Westchester club & has been affiliated with them since. No comment on his LYTTC story... ------------- Trade feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787 |
Posted By: aroonkl
Date Posted: 02/28/2014 at 12:10am
What rubbers? H3 both?
|
Posted By: puppy412
Date Posted: 02/28/2014 at 12:22am
|
wang equipment: http://www.butterflyonline.com/static.asp?htmltemplate=bio_e_wang.html I wonder if he boosts his rubbers. maybe he doesn't but he probably changes his rubbers every other week. he has somewhat of a similar style to appelgren who's been mentioned a lot here lately. as for the other guy, great rally but you could tell he was forcing it to the edge, which generally means at some point you crumble down. |
Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 02/28/2014 at 12:27am
|
Eugene uses t05 FH t80 BH on Viscaria last time I knew. Guessing Kai is Viscaria H3 T05fx?
|
Posted By: hookumsnivy
Date Posted: 02/28/2014 at 8:15am
I could be wrong, but last I heard he was using T05 on the FH. When he got here I think he was using H3.
|
Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 02/28/2014 at 9:41am
Yes. Most of the Chinese imports play Viscaria / H3 / Tenergy. Bochao Li uses ZJK-ALC which is Viscaria 2.0. I'll check this weekend if his FH rubber is tuned or not. Kewei Li (who of course, plays from way back so has different equipment requirement) used the Mizutani blade when I took a few lessons from him a few months ago - I thought he'd use a defensive blade. Nasty FH when he twiddles to using his Tenergy side. Could someone (Andy.h, Purett, Kurokami?) request Will Shortz to start streaming his tournament main matches live? He gets the best players in the East coast to play. Should be good national advertising for his club as well. And I love watching Kai play. ------------- Trade feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787 |
Posted By: Matt Pimple
Date Posted: 02/28/2014 at 10:30am
------------- OSP Ultimate; Dr. Neubauer Dominance Spin Hard max, Dr. Neubauer Troublemaker 0.5 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55835&title=feed-back-for-matt-pimple" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: Matt Pimple
Date Posted: 02/28/2014 at 10:33am
------------- OSP Ultimate; Dr. Neubauer Dominance Spin Hard max, Dr. Neubauer Troublemaker 0.5 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55835&title=feed-back-for-matt-pimple" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: assiduous
Date Posted: 02/28/2014 at 10:53am
|
pimples, where do you get this inside information about the pros? ------------- puppy412 : Sorry man, I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but I know that more training will make me better, I don't need to come here to figure that out |
Posted By: 100niTenis
Date Posted: 02/28/2014 at 11:14am
|
I really NEED to get my butt down there and check out tournament overthere :) ------------- Blade, Rubbers, Shoes, Socks ... |
Posted By: zeio
Date Posted: 02/28/2014 at 11:21am
|
http://www.sundns.org/discuz/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=355563&extra=page%3D1&page=1" rel="nofollow - Eugene is currently using T05 SP on forehand and backhand. He "primes" his forehand with 4 layers of DHS water-based glue. He boosts on his backhand only. He turned over his Viscaria(forehand side as backhand and vice versa) to use after http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BreKhWaa5ZY" rel="nofollow - playing Fan Zhendong at the Grand Final in Doha , citing that the idea flashed into his mind during training. ------------- Viscaria FL - 91g + Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
Posted By: Matt Pimple
Date Posted: 02/28/2014 at 12:03pm
------------- OSP Ultimate; Dr. Neubauer Dominance Spin Hard max, Dr. Neubauer Troublemaker 0.5 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55835&title=feed-back-for-matt-pimple" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |
Posted By: jrscatman
Date Posted: 02/28/2014 at 12:47pm
I don't know - a while back we volunteered on one of the Killerspin events. My friend who is big Waldner fan was given the job to carry his bag to the arena. So he asked Waldner about his rubber (same argument was being made about pro's getting different ones) Waldner said no, it's the same and gave him the rubber off his racket. My friend having the same setup as Waldner compared the rubbers - they were exactly the same. Another, occasion an international event locally, one of the International players decided to sell all his rubbers after he finished playing - same as the ones we get to buy. The only difference was the serial number. I was told the rubbers player receive are usually bulk packaged, they are not individually wrapped. Atleast, that's how this particular player received them.
------------- Butterfly MPS FH: Donic Acuda S1 BH: Palio CK531A OX |
Posted By: Tinykin
Date Posted: 02/28/2014 at 1:51pm
Thanks to both of you. It gives me a couple of ideas. ------------- Blade: Darker Speed90 Rubber Fh and Bh DHS Hurricane 3, 39/38deg Delusion is an asset |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 02/28/2014 at 2:39pm
It was posted on one of the European forums that a forummer directly asked Dima Ovtcharov about his Tenergies and Dima had said that he used regular Tenergies but meticulously selected by weight and uniformity and feeling. He said something along the lines that he chooses approximately one out of ten by weight, by looking at it and by feeling (he meant feeling it with his fingers). Which posed the question - if he (as elite players do) changes his rubbers after every day or two of practicing, that means he needs 7 rubbers per week. Well, let's say only 5. That means that every week he has to go through 50 brand new rubbers, open them all up, weigh them and probe them with his fingers. What do they do with the other 45 rubbers? The plastic envelopes are cut, rubbers are taken out of the package... I guess they buy so many for his club and he is given first choice. And maybe someone else is weighing them for him...  ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: assiduous
Date Posted: 02/28/2014 at 3:14pm
|
Dima is a strong guy but he can't wear out a new sheet of tenergy in two days. Also he does not select one in ten. But I actually agree with you that this is the general process. They get hand picked rubbers, from the middle of the big sheet (say 4 by 4 feet), where material is most homogeneous. Butterfly already sends them hand picked rubbers (packaged in bulk like somebody said), so Dima does not have to throw out 9 out of 10 sheets. But this is not the same as boosting or tuning, and does not seem unfair to me. All this mambo jumbo about the magic rubbers that the pros use is .. exactly that - mambo jambo. ------------- puppy412 : Sorry man, I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but I know that more training will make me better, I don't need to come here to figure that out |
Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 02/28/2014 at 3:39pm
Where'd you get this info? This is really interesting.
|
Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 02/28/2014 at 3:43pm
Sorry, might help if I clicked the links you provided.  |
Posted By: slevin
Date Posted: 02/28/2014 at 3:51pm
|
FWIW, at Spin NYC, Timo Boll had mentioned to me that he chooses the heaviest T05 sheets available. Regarding Dima, I'd love to believe he does not boost, but looking at this game, I find that unlikely: ------------- Trade feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787 |
Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 02/28/2014 at 4:13pm
| I think I remember a while back Dima openly admitting that he boosts his rubbers. |