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Topic: Me playing a friend
Posted By: BinaryLoop
Subject: Me playing a friend
Date Posted: 12/18/2014 at 1:59pm
Here's a video of me playing a friend of mine. I am the one on the left. Please be as brutal as possible with your criticism. Thanks Smile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyoH5BJlZtE



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Posted By: TT newbie
Date Posted: 12/18/2014 at 2:31pm
My main critic goes to the person holding the camera. Does he (or she) have parkinson?


Posted By: skip3119
Date Posted: 12/18/2014 at 2:32pm
Originally posted by BinaryLoop BinaryLoop wrote:

Here's a video of me playing a friend of mine. I am the one on the left. Please be as brutal as possible with your criticism. Thanks Smile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyoH5BJlZtE
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Posted By: BinaryLoop
Date Posted: 12/18/2014 at 2:35pm
Sorry. In my folly I forgot to stabilize the video. Me and my friends are pretty casual, so we didn't hog in a tripod (not that we have one anyways). Thanks for the input!


Posted By: BRS
Date Posted: 12/19/2014 at 7:42am
The light changes make it hard to see.  If you do another video try to record it in a gym or someplace with only artificial light so it stays even.

As far as your game, you do some nice backhands over the table, but your FH looks really uncomfortable.  It's a small sample, so maybe not accurate.  But you had more than one total whiff on the FH side, and generally don't look comfortable hitting multiple FHs in a row.  Do you practice loop v block drills and can you hit 5 or 10 FH loops in a row when your partner blocks back to the same spot?  

Also, stay lower.  You stand up a lot, and that makes it hard to move properly and hit consistent topspin strokes. 


Posted By: BinaryLoop
Date Posted: 12/19/2014 at 11:46am
I'm having a grip dilemma, which is why you see me struggle when switching from backhand to forehand/vice versa. I have slightly different grip for either stroke,  and it's costing me during fast switching. Should I stick to one grip and make it work for the other stroke?


Posted By: V-Griper
Date Posted: 12/19/2014 at 11:54am
Originally posted by BinaryLoop BinaryLoop wrote:

I'm having a grip dilemma, which is why you see me struggle when switching from backhand to forehand/vice versa. I have slightly different grip for either stroke,  and it's costing me during fast switching. Should I stick to one grip and make it work for the other stroke?

My opinion is that you should stick with the separate grips. 


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Posted By: hookumsnivy
Date Posted: 12/19/2014 at 2:08pm
I saw that during a number of forehand attacks where your right leg came up and went backwards either right before or during your swing.  Reminded me a little of a leg kick in bowling.  You should be getting back to neutral and if anything your leg should be going forward.



Posted By: BinaryLoop
Date Posted: 12/19/2014 at 2:11pm
So in general stay more grounded during forehand attacks?


Posted By: BinaryLoop
Date Posted: 12/19/2014 at 2:12pm
So in general stay more grounded during forehand strokes?


Posted By: hookumsnivy
Date Posted: 12/19/2014 at 2:13pm
Originally posted by BinaryLoop BinaryLoop wrote:

So in general stay more grounded during forehand attacks?
I wouldn't say that, but generally your weight should shift forward into the ball during an attack.  By pulling your right leg back, you're bringing your weight down and away from the ball.


Posted By: berkeleydoctor
Date Posted: 12/19/2014 at 2:33pm
things to improve upon:
1) prepare for the next shot after you loop
2) body positioning after you loop or punch block
3) index finger positioning when blocking

i didn't pay super close attention to everything and i only watched it once, but those were what i caught!


Posted By: BinaryLoop
Date Posted: 12/19/2014 at 2:47pm
Thanks for the tips! I'll post another video when I feel like I've adequately addressed those points.


Posted By: jrscatman
Date Posted: 12/19/2014 at 2:59pm
I would suggest more fluid with your movement. Finish the stroke, so you're back in the ready position. Too many times watching your shot and not getting back into ready position. 
(I actually do the exact same thing - hmmm easier to tell other people how to do it rather than doing it myself) - Game looks pretty good!


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Posted By: GeneralSpecific
Date Posted: 12/19/2014 at 10:07pm
Poor choice of music out of 10.

But in all seriousness you need to improve your footwork and recovery. Pay more attention to your feet for now.


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Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 12/19/2014 at 10:42pm
criticism is the poor lighting (bright sun)


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Posted By: BinaryLoop
Date Posted: 12/19/2014 at 11:50pm
Yeah we chose a bad time & place. Next time I'll film in a place with only artificial lighting.


Posted By: smackman
Date Posted: 12/20/2014 at 6:23am
I would normally say that serving for a reason ( getting back probable returns) would help you, but for you , you need to be ready to do a forehand or backhand, just slow your game down and work on transition and spin that forehand unless it is high 
 I like your little pro backhand attack against the short serve, but as others are saying have a look where your feet go when you are doing your forehand, start helping each other out , with both having turns at 1 backhand 2 forehands and some other repeated drills


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Posted By: cole_ely
Date Posted: 12/20/2014 at 7:59am
Also I like your bh flip of service, but you shouldn't have to even do that against those serves.  They're high and not that spinny.  You should be able to just flat right through them and hit a winner.  Both of you need to work on tightening up your serves and that alone should take you from 1500 to 1700ish.

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Posted By: cheondo
Date Posted: 12/20/2014 at 6:02pm
What kind of ball was that? It looks huge! Or maybe it was just the lighting. Agree with Cole, those serves you can just pop them with a flat hit. They were really high. Your serve form looks good and overall form not too bad.

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Posted By: 109dream
Date Posted: 12/21/2014 at 1:25am
Hey guys, I'm the other kid in the video. Could I get any advice other than work on my bad serves?


Posted By: heavyspin
Date Posted: 12/21/2014 at 2:28am
I think there are weight transfer issues. It looks like you often have your weight on your heels and you are not transferring weight from left side to right side properly for the forehand stroke. As for strategy, you should always serve from the shadowy area to the sunshine area of the table. 


Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 12/21/2014 at 5:25am
Originally posted by heavyspin heavyspin wrote:

... As for strategy, you should always serve from the shadowy area to the sunshine area of the table. 
  got some homework


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Posted By: hookumsnivy
Date Posted: 12/21/2014 at 9:39am
Originally posted by 109dream 109dream wrote:

Hey guys, I'm the other kid in the video. Could I get any advice other than work on my bad serves?

The most important thing is to keep them low.  If they're not low, they become easy to attack.  
Also, you should mix them up a bit.  It looks like you do the same serve to the same place every time.  Your opponent is expecting that serve and is moving into position to flip it before you even make contact.  You have the entire table to work with, make your opponent move.  Short, long, fast, slow, FH, BH, middle, top spin, no spin, under spin (all with variable amounts of side spin).  This is the 1 part of the game were you can impose your will without having to adjust to the type of ball you're receiving.
 


Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 12/21/2014 at 9:52am
Play people who are not your friends. Familiar opponents make serves look worse and returns and rallies better.

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Posted By: cheondo
Date Posted: 12/21/2014 at 6:18pm
Basic rule of thumb for serve length is serve long or short. By short, I mean the ball must bounce twice or more on the table. By long, I mean it must hit the last 6 inches of table. Anything else is easily attackable as the ball falls off the end of the table.

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