Why do professionals like the Clipper blade?
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Topic: Why do professionals like the Clipper blade?
Posted By: SmackDAT
Subject: Why do professionals like the Clipper blade?
Date Posted: 07/17/2015 at 1:21pm
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Okay, profesisonals such as Kristian Karlsson and Samsonov (Force Pro which is similar to Clipper) as well as many young chinese players like the feel of Clipper. Is there a reason as to why? To me it seems like an ordinary 7-ply all wood blade, but hopefully someone is willing to shed light on this. ------------- Zhang Jike ALC AN (88g) Tenergy 05 Hard (2.1, B) Tenergy 19 (2.1, R) https://goo.gl/bFWoxW" rel="nofollow - https://goo.gl/bFWoxW |
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Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 07/17/2015 at 1:33pm
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I thought Samsonov was still using his old Mazunov all wood blades, camouflated under Tibhar handles.....for many many years.
------------- Def play grey grip 94gr, Venus 2 blue 2,2, Neubauer KO extreme 1,3mm |
Posted By: TT newbie
Date Posted: 07/17/2015 at 4:08pm
| Why? Because it is the best 7-ply blade ever made. Is that enough? |
Posted By: rocketman222
Date Posted: 07/17/2015 at 5:07pm
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Clipper has great feel(though a little muted, compared to BT777, yasaka maxwood), it is stiff enough to block well, as fast as any of the butterfly ALC blades. Whats there to not like about it? |
Posted By: Snakefish
Date Posted: 07/17/2015 at 5:51pm
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I wonder if Stiga renumerated handsomely the person who created the Clipper for them ? ------------- Andro Treiber Z - fl FH: Tibhar MX-D max BH: Tibhar Quantum ProX-blue,max |
Posted By: thatguy
Date Posted: 07/17/2015 at 5:53pm
wow, i'm a pro now 
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Posted By: rxng
Date Posted: 07/17/2015 at 6:05pm
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I think the best part of Clipper Wood is that it is well balanced, no obvious strong or weak points, and suitable for a variety of rubbers. https://flic.kr/p/vRzs2X" rel="nofollow">  https://flic.kr/p/w94Lht" rel="nofollow">  https://flic.kr/p/vRt74o" rel="nofollow">  https://flic.kr/p/vRzBHa" rel="nofollow">  |
Posted By: SmackDAT
Date Posted: 07/17/2015 at 6:58pm
Remunerated* Doubt it, I suspect it was designed by a production team at the time? ------------- Zhang Jike ALC AN (88g) Tenergy 05 Hard (2.1, B) Tenergy 19 (2.1, R) https://goo.gl/bFWoxW" rel="nofollow - https://goo.gl/bFWoxW |
Snakefish wrote:Posted By: SmackDAT
Date Posted: 07/17/2015 at 6:59pm
Beautiful pictures! ------------- Zhang Jike ALC AN (88g) Tenergy 05 Hard (2.1, B) Tenergy 19 (2.1, R) https://goo.gl/bFWoxW" rel="nofollow - https://goo.gl/bFWoxW |
Posted By: asifgunz
Date Posted: 07/17/2015 at 7:47pm
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What is that handle on the top blade. Round ST? -------------  "I do not have any idols. I am my own idol." - Zhang Jike Feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=71761&PN=1#905629 |
Posted By: NBSR
Date Posted: 07/17/2015 at 7:59pm
"Champ" handle of Stiga is equivalent to conic handle.
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Posted By: asifgunz
Date Posted: 07/17/2015 at 8:52pm
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Thank you. ------------- "I do not have any idols. I am my own idol." - Zhang Jike Feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=71761&PN=1#905629 |
Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 07/17/2015 at 10:25pm
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Among all manufacturers and 99% of all ST handles...Clipper ST is the best. ------------- Wood Paddle Red side Black side. |
Posted By: rxng
Date Posted: 07/17/2015 at 11:31pm
Yes, thanks NBSR https://flic.kr/p/vRsbzj" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Tommy16
Date Posted: 07/18/2015 at 9:45am
He used to use his old Mazunov for many years but wbg ruined it so he was forced to replace it with an other blade. ------------- What is the point of playing safe shots when you can miss with style My feedback: http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=67171&KW=&PID=811763&title=tommy16-feedback#811763 |
Posted By: suds79
Date Posted: 07/18/2015 at 10:32am
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Best blade I have is the clipper. Hard to explain. But it just seems to do everything. It's great for SPs. Can also play inverted really well. But the speed is good, balance feels great. For some bizzare reason the most comfortable grip cpen I have. Feel like it does everything well.
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Posted By: Stavros
Date Posted: 07/18/2015 at 2:25pm
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Unfortunately , Clippers of the PROs are very different than ours. Infinity is the new Clipper for us! ------------- InfinityVPS - D80 - D05 |
Posted By: Ben-Jammin
Date Posted: 07/18/2015 at 8:57pm
| How does the Infinity compare to the Clipper? |
Posted By: chop4ever
Date Posted: 07/18/2015 at 10:28pm
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The 7-ply structure is more reliable than 5-lpy all wood. Clipper is easier to control and more powerful than some composite blades. ------------- There is no real "pro", "prov" or "NT" H3 in the market. Falco is not a booster |
Posted By: Machine_Head
Date Posted: 07/19/2015 at 3:36am
Hi Stravos, can you please explain what you meant by Infinity is the new Clipper? |
Posted By: unstopabl3
Date Posted: 07/19/2015 at 5:06am
Which Clipper are we talking about exactly in this thread??? There is a Clipper, Clipper CR WRB then a Clipper CR and lastly Clipper WRB. What's the difference between these anyways? |
Posted By: OldSchool
Date Posted: 07/19/2015 at 5:15am
Clipper is the base blade with 7 wood layers. Clipper CR have coating to make it a bit more stiff. Clipper CC have carbon powder in-between layers to make it even stiffer than the CR. WRB versions have the hollow handle to make the blade lighter. |
Posted By: unstopabl3
Date Posted: 07/19/2015 at 5:20am
Thanks for the info, which one of these plays the best? |
Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 07/19/2015 at 5:21am
If you were really interested, you would have searched for it. ------------- Life is too short for defensive play. https://twitter.com/spinnier_com" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/spinnier_com https://fb.me/spinnier" rel="nofollow - fb.me/spinnier |
Posted By: unstopabl3
Date Posted: 07/19/2015 at 5:25am
I did, how else do you think I got the names of the different versions? :P I wanted to know the differences from a user as that would be more accurate than technical mumbo jumbo mentioned in the blade descriptions :P |
Posted By: Ray
Date Posted: 07/19/2015 at 6:10am
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From http://stigatabletennis.com/en/tech-specs/blade-tech-specs/ "THE CR SYSTEM is when front part of the blade is UV-finished, which yields a reasonably increased speed to the ball." WRB - hollow handle, makes the blade more head heavy. ------------- Life is too short for defensive play. https://twitter.com/spinnier_com" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/spinnier_com https://fb.me/spinnier" rel="nofollow - fb.me/spinnier |
Posted By: unstopabl3
Date Posted: 07/19/2015 at 6:42am
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Thanks Ray :) So a an offensive style power-looper would prefer clipper CR especially if they don't like hollow handles??? :P |
Posted By: 42andbackpains
Date Posted: 07/19/2015 at 9:22am
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I have gone from the Adidas Hypertouch, Adidas Strike Carbon, Stiga CC, Stiga CR WRB and now a all wood Clipper Oversize WRB. Stiga CC is the fastest and stiffest out all the clippers, but has the least control out of all the clippers. Stiga CR WRB is head heavy, has a bigger head than the Stiga Clipper CC and is good for most techniques. I didnt like it due to my personal preference of having stiffer crispier blades. Stiga Oversize WRB is heavy at 96 grams, head heavy, biggest head, the crispiest and very good control due to the large dwell spot/oversize head. The speed is a tad slower than the CC. But u wont like this blade if you cant handle head heavy and overall heavy blades. Takes a lot of muscle to get the most out of this blade. I would start off with the Stiga Clipper CR or a regular Stiga Clipper first, these are the least expensive and the most attainable.
------------- Mind is willing, but the back goes out too often :P OSP Ultimate II 88 grams FH Dianchi D w/ Secret Sauce BH Butterfly T05 Red USATT rating keeps going down |
Posted By: Stavros
Date Posted: 07/19/2015 at 10:55am
I was playing with a Cipper from 1989 since 2000. The new Clipper looks and plays like a joke. Infinity on the other hand, it reminds me the old Stiga feeling. It is something between the old Offensive Wood and Clipper Wood of the 80's and 90's. Infinity is also the most popular Stiga blade although it appeared the last 2 years. ------------- InfinityVPS - D80 - D05 |
Posted By: smackman
Date Posted: 07/20/2015 at 5:55pm
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1 pro was named by op, any more? ------------- Ulmo Duality,Donic BlueGrip C2 red max ,Yinhe Super Kim Ox Black NZ table tennis selector, third in the World (plate Doubles)I'm Listed on the ITTF website |
Posted By: Baal
Date Posted: 07/20/2015 at 6:15pm
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I saw a lot of good players using Clippers in my trips to China, but I last time I was there I only played at one place and before that it had been awhile. I am wondering if composite blades may be gaining there. |
Posted By: Machine_Head
Date Posted: 07/21/2015 at 2:18am
Kasumi Ishikawa is playing with a Clipper. So does Kristian Karlsson. |
Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 07/21/2015 at 2:37am
True for experienced players but I was surprised at the Liaoning provincial center to see that nearly all the kids (already very strong for 8 or 9 years old children) use BTY ALC or ZLC blades. TB ALC is probably the most used blades there. The coach explained that it is also much more easy to get specific blades from BTY for each player, regarding the weight, than it is from other brands. The coaches use most Yinhe blades :))
------------- Def play grey grip 94gr, Venus 2 blue 2,2, Neubauer KO extreme 1,3mm |
Posted By: Stavros
Date Posted: 07/21/2015 at 3:26am
Butterfly Arylate-Carbon blades are the most popular in the world 1. Boll Spirit 2. ALC 3. Viscaria ------------- InfinityVPS - D80 - D05 |
Posted By: stevenjlyang
Date Posted: 07/21/2015 at 5:48am
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sorry, i can't agree with you. there aren't more professionals use the Clipper blade in china. otherwise i see more and more professionals change blade to mixed blade, like VIS, ZJK ALC or 狂飙龙5 that is made by DHS. the following table show that top professionals have been changing their blade to mixed blade:  ------------- ZJK ALC 90g: T80 + T05FX Boll ALC 89g: AIROC M + Calibra LT Spin |
Posted By: stevenjlyang
Date Posted: 07/21/2015 at 5:50am
previous blades in 2005, by the professionals. ------------- ZJK ALC 90g: T80 + T05FX Boll ALC 89g: AIROC M + Calibra LT Spin |
Posted By: kakapo
Date Posted: 07/21/2015 at 6:28am
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Thanks for sharing this info. ------------- Def play grey grip 94gr, Venus 2 blue 2,2, Neubauer KO extreme 1,3mm |
Posted By: winterdrops
Date Posted: 07/21/2015 at 7:28am
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Hi stevenjlyang, What do you mean by mixed blades? Actually you mean COMPOSITE, carbon blades? By the way, thanks for charts ------------- Stiga Infinity Fh: Bluefire M2 Bh: Evolution ELP |
Posted By: JKC
Date Posted: 07/21/2015 at 6:34pm
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I had one 25 years ago, but as I was young and foolish I ruined it by covering it in a thick layer of varnish. I eventually pulled a layer of wood off trying to remove it. My son switched to a new one about a month ago and really likes the extra power and looping ability. Not sure how the 2 blades compare though as I wasn't really good enough to know what I was playing with back then. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34kRbLNCcpk" rel="nofollow - Fred 49 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGShBxEKnDk%20rel=" rel="nofollow - I once could serve |
Posted By: Leftyy
Date Posted: 07/21/2015 at 6:42pm
Basically because it's a great blade with good feel and control that suits many play styles. I can not see any other reason, the pros does not choose a blade for its design 
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Posted By: rxng
Date Posted: 07/22/2015 at 12:46am
Hi steven, thanks for posting the chart created by me. Actually I have an exactly same topic here, with English version of chart. http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72224&title=world-top-10-mens-equipment-2015-2005" rel="nofollow - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72224&title=world-top-10-mens-equipment-2015-2005  |
Posted By: stevenjlyang
Date Posted: 07/22/2015 at 2:46am
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hi, rxng. sorry for that. and thanks for your update. ------------- ZJK ALC 90g: T80 + T05FX Boll ALC 89g: AIROC M + Calibra LT Spin |
Posted By: stevenjlyang
Date Posted: 07/22/2015 at 2:48am
yes, i mean composite blades ------------- ZJK ALC 90g: T80 + T05FX Boll ALC 89g: AIROC M + Calibra LT Spin |
Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 07/24/2015 at 1:50am
| At least 3 players from japanese junior team . content://media/external/file/5064Team from japan but what can be the replacement for clipper since the modern clipper sucks bigtime |