Short Pips on the Backhand

Played for the 4th time since coming back from my 10 plus year hiatus and my timing is starting to come back. Forehand loop is coming back surely but slowly...but since i dont want to hurt my back by twisting too much, i have decided to switch to short pips on the backhand. Are there any training and tips videos for backhand short pips. I prefer a pick and attack type of style. I have noticed that you have to generate all your own power with short pips and hit the incoming ball at the highest point. I just need some pointers and examples to lead me on the right track. By the way the Adidas Hypertouch was a little too soft for me on my forehand with the P7 2.0 and have changed to the Adidas Strike Carbon/Adidas Ultra Tenzone Max. Also changed to the Haifu Whale 2 Speed Glue instead of using the Donic Vario Glue. Any guidance is much appreciated. 

If you're in NYC, I would recommend contacting Shao Yu if you want to get some insight or coaching with short pips.  He is a 2500 one-wing looper with short pips (Stiga Clippa 2.0mm) on his BH.  You can watch him drilling with Gao Yanjun in this video to see his form and timing.

haha well in the video yes.  His FH loop and counter is no joke though despite being overshadowed by his characteristic BH punch.

Watching Shao Yu now on YT and maybe i will go visit his club. Its only about a 10 min drive for me. Coaching maybe later on, gotta see how the back holds up in regular once a week play. Also thanks for the pips recommedation and the HK one too. I am happy with the Adidas 1.8 spin blaze on the backhand. Shao Yus backhand is awesome! Thanks

NextLevel wrote: schen wrote: If you're in NYC, I would recommend contacting Shao Yu if you want to get some insight or coaching with short pips.  He is a 2500 one-wing looper with short pips (Stiga Clippa 2.0mm) on his BH.  You can watch him drilling with Gao Yanjun in this video to see his form and timing. Now that's more truthful... he almost always uses his backhand.

schen wrote: bbkon wrote: <span style="line-height: 1.4;">is he still playing with clippa?, i find hard to believe a pro is using that pip unboosted</span> He is, and it is most definitely boosted though

I didn't even know you can boost pip sponge. Does that increase sponge elasticity and help generate more spin and/or speed?

Also congrats on breaking 1900 Schen!

Edited by DreiZ - 11/07/2014 at 11:53am

42andbackpains wrote: I am using the Haifu Whale 2 speed glue on my Adidas Spin Blaze 1.8 and it only makes already soft sponge a little softer. But i am using 1.8 so my guess if you were using 2.0 or max, the effect would be greater.  The Tang Peng videos are awesome on YT, but very hard to find pointers. He plays way too fast....lol  He also plays off the table alot to favor his forehand too. The dream continues

A lesson or two might be helpful for you. I second Shao Yu. I heard he is a good coach from other players here in NYC as well.

Question, Does coach Shao have time at night to give lessons?. I pretty much work 7 days a week and can get to the club by 7 or 8. And does the club really close at midnight....and are there members still there to play. I am pretty much a night person these days. Thanks for the help.

Thanks for the info. I hope to play you soon. I may post of videos of my very lacking skills so you guyz can criticize me....lol. Thanks again.

I just went to dig out my 20 year old  TSP spinpips paddle on both sides.  It was great attacking rubber.

Tinykin wrote: No. There were some changes to ITTF rules regarding pips structure. This made those 90's TSP Spinpips illegal. Do you have any spare?

chopslice wrote: Tinykin wrote: No. There were some changes to ITTF rules regarding pips structure. This made those 90's TSP Spinpips illegal. Do you have any spare? I don't have a spare.  It was the only paddle when I played as a kid.  Surprisingly, it is still almost like new. I mean it is still spinny and can do loop. I don't understand why they would ban such a good rubber and last so long !!! It just does not make any sense.

schen wrote: If you're in NYC, I would recommend contacting Shao Yu if you want to get some insight or coaching with short pips.

Edited by bogeyhunter - 11/07/2014 at 8:02pm

Funny how some people still don't believe ITTF banned LGL's rubber.


Edited by roundrobin - 11/07/2014 at 11:03pm

Funny that Spinpips was mentioned - Shao Yu told me he used to use Spinpips before the ban, but he was only informed about the ban by an umpire 20 minutes before a match at US nationals that year and had to quickly change his rubber.  It turns out Clippa played the closest to spinpips for him