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can someone contast E. Musk!
I am sure he can make a rubber far better than Tenergy lol
& call it Tesla 05 P100D lol
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not the entire name...just the letters

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Originally posted by taczkid taczkid wrote:

can someone contast E. Musk!
I am sure he can make a rubber far better than Tenergy lol
& call it Tesla 05 P100D lol

He cannot, but he will claim that the extrapolated result shows that the rubber that they might release next year is better. 
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Originally posted by yogi_bear yogi_bear wrote:

Future M will not be released yet. 

It will be released by the end of the month. DNA Future M is a rubber for developing players and will be much cheaper than DNA Pro.
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Originally posted by tabletennisx32 tabletennisx32 wrote:

Anyone notice they missed the opportunity to name the rubbbers corresponding to nucleotides in DNA? They could've made it Stiga DNA Pro A, G, C, and T. They could've also made a short pip version called Stiga RNA Pro U or something. :p

In all due respect, I do think it's important to keep nucleotides out of this discussion, otherwise it will be but a moment and someone will identify an association with trimethylglycine, then where will we be?

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Stiga DNA Pro H (Hard)

Weight: 71 grams uncut

Hardness: 50 degrees ESN scale

Speed: OFF++


Hi,

On first observation, I really did hope you made an error with the "OFF++" reference.  The first breach of protocol of a similar nature that I recall was when the rubber speed and spin scale was established from 1 to a maximum of 10, only to have produced products rated 11 and above.

May we anticipate in our future an enhanced version rated "OFF+++", extending the paradigm?  If not, I will be disappointed.

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Which protocol? There is no established protocol for that, not officially. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BRS Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/03/2019 at 6:22pm
Originally posted by yogi_bear yogi_bear wrote:

Future M will not be released yet. 

Best post ever.
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Originally posted by guni4you guni4you wrote:

I don’t think it worked for Truls as he lost in the first round of Swedish open

Karakasevic played quite well. On the other hand, Truls did not play great.  Somehow, I did not get the feeling that it was due to equipment change.
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Originally posted by Dream1700 Dream1700 wrote:

Truls vs Dan:
https://youtu.be/K0RXo1ce9QU


Dan about the hardest H version: "not as fast as tenergy 05", "great control", "good stable attacking rubber", "spin is similar to that of MXP".
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Originally posted by Charlie Brown Charlie Brown wrote:

Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

Truls changed from Carbonado 290 to 190?

The sheets must be really fast for him to change to a "slower" blade.

Mantra is relatively slow.  I wouldn't put it on how fast the sheets are per se.  190 is on par with a Boll ALc 
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$45.74 at TT11 but listed OOS and 2.1mm only. I like the price drop.
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well they released Future M after saying they will not released it. Introductory rubber at 47.5 degrees.
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Originally posted by yogi_bear yogi_bear wrote:

well they released Future M after saying they will not released it. Introductory rubber at 47.5 degrees.

same sponge as in Pro but different top-sheet?

32.90 € 


Edited by Dream1700 - 10/24/2019 at 7:15pm
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not sure because I have not tried them yet but it is still an ESN rubber probably closer to Vega Intro or Musa 3.
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DNA Pro series going for ¥199 in the Chinese market, which is about the same as the Rozena. This is about USD$28.
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$28 is very cheap indeed. I only see $54 on aliexpress.

i will wait until 1.9mm comes out and when the rubber makes it way to TT11 3-for-4 section.
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Originally posted by Facepalm Facepalm wrote:

DNA Pro series going for ¥199 in the Chinese market, which is about the same as the Rozena. This is about USD$28.


Are they fakes ? That seems a bit too cheap for a brand new rubber, no ? Shocked
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Originally posted by JustANoob JustANoob wrote:

Originally posted by Facepalm Facepalm wrote:

DNA Pro series going for ¥199 in the Chinese market, which is about the same as the Rozena. This is about USD$28.


Are they fakes ? That seems a bit too cheap for a brand new rubber, no ? Shocked

No, this is the regular retail price available on several reputable stores. Sometimes the Chinese market is just like that.
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Originally posted by Facepalm Facepalm wrote:

Originally posted by JustANoob JustANoob wrote:

Originally posted by Facepalm Facepalm wrote:

DNA Pro series going for ¥199 in the Chinese market, which is about the same as the Rozena. This is about USD$28.


Are they fakes ? That seems a bit too cheap for a brand new rubber, no ? Shocked

No, this is the regular retail price available on several reputable stores. Sometimes the Chinese market is just like that.

Are there any sites that are shipping it international? 
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looks like in stock now at Dandoy and TT11.  Now off  to fight the EJ demons 
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$45.74 per sheet on Tabletennis11 
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fyi: paddlepalace.com
also has them under 45$ on intro sale...
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Originally posted by taczkid taczkid wrote:

fyi: paddlepalace.com
also has them under 45$ on intro sale...

i think you mean under $50, it currently $45.95 - regular price will be $54.95 Tongue

"Future M" which no one here is probably gonna use because everyone's a "baller" is $33 to be $39 regular price.


Edited by Charlie Brown - 11/05/2019 at 4:22pm
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Originally posted by Charlie Brown Charlie Brown wrote:

Originally posted by taczkid taczkid wrote:

fyi: paddlepalace.com
also has them under 45$ on intro sale...

i think you mean under $50, it currently $45.95 - regular price will be $54.95 Tongue

"Future M" which no one here is probably gonna use because everyone's a "baller" is $33 to be $39 regular price.

Future M must be very different from the Pro versions, otherwise the price difference does not make sense.

yogi_bear says it has 47.5 sponge. i am guessing that either the top sheet is very soft or the sponge is of different mix or both.

I am curious about this rubber. I hope it will be somewhat lower weight than the Pro versions and have interesting playing character.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Charlie Brown Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11/06/2019 at 10:06am
From Stiga's site...not really "entry-level" because it still is ESN technology, probably comparable to say a MarkV gluable variant just a touch faster because of ESN technology?


  • Ideal for those who want to glue their first bat.



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Originally posted by Charlie Brown Charlie Brown wrote:

From Stiga's site...not really "entry-level" because it still is ESN technology, probably comparable to say a MarkV gluable variant just a touch faster because of ESN technology?


  • Ideal for those who want to glue their first bat.


If it is ideal for those who want to glue their first bat, it is an entry level rubber. Probably a replacement for the Stiga Evo rubber before.
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This is the long and more detailed review of the DNA rubbers 

but this is a breakdown on the findings:

DNA Pro H
1. This is the best Stiga rubber right now. It is 50 degrees and much harder compared to their previous rubbers expect for the Mantra H which I still love until now.
2. I think everyone should just get this rubber instead of 2 other variants because it is an amazing rubber.
3. Even close to the table, it is more controllable than other rubbers such as Rasanter R50 or MXP 50 but it is just as fast.
4. Topsheet is very grippy and quality really looks good.
5. Spin is really good. It is as spinny as the other 50 degree rubbers but easier to handle and produce spin. Arc is medium to medium high.
6. It is the easiest rubber in the 50 degree range that is easiest to adjust to because of its very forgiving characteristic. It is very good control.

DNA Pro M
1. This is a competitor of MXP as they are in the same range of hardness.
2. Topsheet seems durable after almost a month of usage and is still very grippy.
3. Sponge is quite durable as I have glued it a few times on different blades.
4. This is as spinny as the MXP but easier to handle and has better control.
5. This is also quite fast but the speed is manageable.
6. It has a medium arc when looping.

DNA Pro S
1. In the class of Rakza 7 soft but a bit much more firmness overall.
2. This is much spinnier than Tibhar FX-P. Both are soft rubbers but the S version offers more spin.
3. A bit faster than Rakza soft or FX-P.
4. High arc when looping.
5. The most control you will get among the 3 DNA rubbers but still a very bouncy rubber.
6. This is a very good backhand rubber.
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