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    Posted: 06/14/2024 at 8:51am
Can anyone explain to me in detail of the effect of long pips with and without sponge and the length of the pips with and without sponge? Thanks!
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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Gregs description is mostly true for lower friction no sponge long pips, but does not apply to higher friction pips with sponge.

Statements such as "chop against backspin" only reduces the spin and returns a light top spin ball are incorrect. A high quality precise chopping stroke can reverse the spin as a normal inverted rubber and send back decent amount of back spin.



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Long pips with friction and sponge(no real reversal)are not the long pips that confuse people other than maybe on dead balls so in general, long pips with significant friction are not the subject of such inquiries.

I usually just recommend that people play their game and learn to read the spin that comes off the pips by the effect of the ball in response to their stroke/serve etc. and adjust from there.  But as long as you continue to learn and read clues, good things will happen.  The worst thing is to just assume that since it isn't acting like inverted, you are completely lost.  It still behaves fairly predictably, you just have to adjust your reads and strokes over time and hope it doesn't take you too long to lock into what is happening.
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Always check your opponent’s rubbers. Long pips with euro/Japanese sponge will play differently than the harder Chinese sponge.
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With : More catapult, more control.
Without : More disruptive, higher reversal
Length of LP/SP are the same as long as they are in the same brand.
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