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    Posted: 06/27/2024 at 12:11pm

Hi, just got my hands on this Mizuno Single Ply Hinoki.


It is 8mm thick and weighs 126gm.


I didnt open the handle cover since it feels so comfortable, and i dont feel any lens underneath.


Hard to find information on this particular blade. If anyone knows, can please share more?



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Hi, 

I am not sure about what other people think but 8mm is borderline thin for a 1-ply blade, I am curious about it. When you test it, can you tell us about the vibrations if any?

For example, I had a terrible experience with 2 different Tibhar H-1-9 vibrating like a I was using a jackhammer and I am wondering about this one.
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I heard (years ago) more than one case of blade breaking/splitting on a single ply 8,5mm Hinoki, but I never have problem with 9 mm. Just be extra careful when using it.
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126g is very heavy! It must be from a dense batch of Kiso Hinoki, if it is indeed Kiso Hinoki, not another type hinoki in the same family. 8mm would be thin for a 1-ply Kiso hinoki, and as Stillt pointed out, it may have very high vibration. Will be interesting to hear how it plays.


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Thanks for the tips. Once I have time will give it a review. Have several blades coming to compre them as well. 
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As haggisv says, 126g maybe means very dense wood which would be a good sign re. less vibrations.

I once owned an American Hinoki built 1-ply made out of Ancient Kauri (fossilized wood...) which is very dense. It was 8mm thick and had no vibrations at all but I had chosen a cork handle which is good at dampening them. So there is that hope (assuming you do not want too many vibrations).

Of course, there is the possibility that your blade features a very heavy handle and it would be great that you precise its line of balance. Is it very close to the handle? how close? place a pen, a thin ruler, a screwdriver etc...  perpendicular to the handle to carry the blade. The closest to the handle you balance the blade, the heaviest the handle; but you probably knew that, I put it there just in case.



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is 8mm really thin for a shakehand one ply? Or are we judging by pen standards? The shakes I've seen (cougar?) Weren't so thick.
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Off topic, but I found a Kokutaku Staysher 60, single ply Hinoki. I would upload a picture if I could. Can't seem to find a mention of it anywhere. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote manallackst Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/29/2024 at 3:01am
Oh Staysher are usually a 7 ply if im not mistaken? do share pics
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