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    Posted: 04/14/2009 at 11:00am
This blade is 104 gr, with thickness less than 9 mm. It has large head size compared to my Kokutaku 3008.
I exchange my Schalger Carbon to get this blade. The previous owner of this blade said he bought it in 1960s. Has anybody in this forum ever seen this blade before? Is it true it's 1960's production? I need help from 1 Ply Hinoki Expert to comment about this blade Smile

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Great stuff! I have never seen this nittaku logo at the back before. But a few things can gurantee that this blade is at least 20-30 years old (at least, it may be 40 and above)
1. Old hinoki blades are less than 9mm, in the 38mm ball era, the thickness of more than 9mm is actually not really ideal
2. The jttaa mark on the blade is at the side of the shoulder
3. The blade have a grip wrap that come with it (it may be removed by the original owner, there is a nail mark on the handle) old blades normally come with the grip wrap
4. Nittaku was using a black rectangular logo at the back of the blades from 1980s onwards (from what i saw on a 1982 carbon blade), this is definitely much older than that.
 
all in all, take good care of it! if the original case (dont think its packed in a box then) is still around, it would be great.
 
pm me if you decide to let go of it yeah LOL
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Originally posted by bleachfan92 bleachfan92 wrote:

Great stuff! I have never seen this nittaku logo at the back before. But a few things can gurantee that this blade is at least 20-30 years old (at least, it may be 40 and above)
1. Old hinoki blades are less than 9mm, in the 38mm ball era, the thickness of more than 9mm is actually not really ideal
2. The jttaa mark on the blade is at the side of the shoulder
3. The blade have a grip wrap that come with it (it may be removed by the original owner, there is a nail mark on the handle) old blades normally come with the grip wrap
4. Nittaku was using a black rectangular logo at the back of the blades from 1980s onwards (from what i saw on a 1982 carbon blade), this is definitely much older than that.
 
all in all, take good care of it! if the original case (dont think its packed in a box then) is still around, it would be great.
 
pm me if you decide to let go of it yeah LOL


Yeah, I still has the grip wrap which is made of leather. I never thought it's original from the manufacturer.
What is the original case look like? Is it made of plastic bag with zipper?
I found this blade easier to play compared to my 3008.
It's not too bouncy, easier to loop.

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Looks like a great blade. If i were you id go over the blade surface with some superfine sand paper to get the small scratches out, add a new surface and glue some rubbers on.
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Originally posted by Wawaicetea123 Wawaicetea123 wrote:

add a new surface and glue some rubbers on.


How to add a new surface? Do you mean by sealing it? Thanks for your suggestion Tongue
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That is too cool.


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peter.looks like the blade was laquered all the way.nice find!the blades looks as if nobody really played with it a whole lot.have you used it yourself already?
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Originally posted by holda holda wrote:

peter.looks like the blade was laquered all the way.nice find!the blades looks as if nobody really played with it a whole lot.have you used it yourself already?


Yeah It's Laquered by nittaku I think. I met a guy which is 69 years old, he stop playing table tennis for 40 years. Now he start playing again. He met me and he want to buy new blades, when I saw his blade, I was amazed Big%20smile, I asked him to trade with my blades.He chosed my sclager carbon.

I have used it before, he put cheap dawei rubber on FH and 729 Fx orange sponge on BH.
It's nicer compared to my 3008.
Very good for looping and good control, better than my 3008 Wink



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well,lucky you ,both!peter,you have been hidin' somewhere..how about that violoncello?you like it more that you do violin ?
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Originally posted by holda holda wrote:

well,lucky you ,both!peter,you have been hidin' somewhere..how about that violoncello?you like it more that you do violin ?


Vioncello is Violin with bigger headsize. with bigger cut rubber, it makes heavier total setup weight.
My 80 gr FL violin feels like my 92 gr FL Vioncello.
My 93 gr ST violin is stiffer though.
The FL handle is bigger than Violin's, but still a bit small for big hand.
But for me is ok without overgrip.

I think you should try to get one, Holda Wink


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1. I think the surface is not lacqured but is because of the many layers of glue used.
2. The grip wrap is original, i think you should attach it back.
3. Its better control and softer because its only around 8mm...
Yes i believe is in such a case, but i am not sure if theres a zipper.
For reference, a butterfly case and a tsp blade with the wrap:
 
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That's a great find, Peter! I'm jealous as a Censored!
 
I'm still trying to find a vintage Stiga blade from the seventies!
Or a Stiga Clipper from the eighties.
 
 
 
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It would be great if you could add pictures of the front grains.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote peter79 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04/15/2009 at 5:22am
Originally posted by bleachfan92 bleachfan92 wrote:

It would be great if you could add pictures of the front grains.


Thanks for your info and confirmation Bleachfan Tongue
Btw when is the TSP and butterfly blade made?
I'll post the picture of the side and front grain later tonight.

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Originally posted by scottymang scottymang wrote:

 
I'm still trying to find a vintage Stiga blade from the seventies!
Or a Stiga Clipper from the eighties.
 


You can visit www.oldstiga.com Wink

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The butterfly blade should be at least 30 years old. The tsp one i would believe to be 25-30 years ago.
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Originally posted by bleachfan92 bleachfan92 wrote:

The butterfly blade should be at least 30 years old. The tsp one i would believe to be 25-30 years ago.


Wooow, Very nicely preserved Clap
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You will learn tricks to restore the blades after some time of collecting old blades Sleepy
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Originally posted by peter79 peter79 wrote:


Originally posted by holda holda wrote:

well,lucky you ,both!peter,you have been hidin' somewhere..how about that violoncello?you like it more that you do violin ?
Vioncello is Violin with bigger headsize. with bigger cut rubber, it makes heavier total setup weight.My 80 gr FL violin feels like my 92 gr FL Vioncello.My 93 gr ST violin is stiffer though.The FL handle is bigger than Violin's, but still a bit small for big hand.But for me is ok without overgrip.I think you should try to get one, Holda Wink

please,u have a collection that sometimes makes me want to try something that you got..don't you know we have global crisis :(
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Here are the additional Pictures:











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Originally posted by peter79 peter79 wrote:

Originally posted by scottymang scottymang wrote:

 
I'm still trying to find a vintage Stiga blade from the seventies!
Or a Stiga Clipper from the eighties.
 


You can visit www.oldstiga.com Wink

 
Thanx Peter.Thumbs%20Up
 
Nice site!
 
 
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excellent grains...congrats on aquiring a great blade
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Thanks for your judgement and sharing knowledge, Bleachfan Smile.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote manallackst Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/29/2024 at 4:58am
Hi Peter.

I believe your Nittaku blade is the only one, the Nittaku single ply I have seen on the internet. Nothing else like it.

Hence, I am reviving this 15 year old thread.

I am currently on the hunt for single ply, and this particular one is one of the hardest to get.

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