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    Posted: 06/12/2014 at 5:47pm
Ha ha,got a new ball to try tonight.





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a box of ONE?  how much is the one?

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sample from japan,just receive today

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Is it seamed or seamless?

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Originally posted by haggisv haggisv wrote:

Is it seamed or seamless?



seamed

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That's weird. ITTF lists it as seamed, which is confirmed by World-TT.
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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

That's weird. ITTF lists it as seamed, which is confirmed by World-TT.


I did not see any line on the the ball so .....
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Now that's really puzzling. I bet you have tried looking under the light?

In the "Table Tennis Goods" magazine you have lying there, there is an article "Plastic Ball Unveiled - Debut and Test Play" showing a comparison of Nittaku seamed ball and Xushaofa seamless ball.
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Ok,after playing for 30 mins.
i think i saw the line,so is  seamed.
the ball feel heavy,less spin but feel more speed,solid maybe because the ball is heavy.
no broken sound.



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Thanks nittakuball.Thumbs Up

Yes I think the 'broken ball' sound only comes from the seamless balls.
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That's understandable as the new Nittaku ball does not let light through much.

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+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
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Nice picture for comparison. You're right, they are much less translucent!

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Hmm... how can it be so heavy if it has to comply with the rules about weight?
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The heaviness could be due to the new material deforming less upon impact.
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+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
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The latest issue of Table Tennis Goods contains some really fascinating articles. nittakuball, do you mind taking some closeups of these three articles, "特殊素材 コンプリートマニュアル", "フォア&バック 打球感の深~い関係", "“弾道”から見る用具のコントロール"?
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
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Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Hmm... how can it be so heavy if it has to comply with the rules about weight?

I've also heard they (the main manufacturers) are trying to make them as heavy as possible within the legal limits (tolerance), so they may in fact be heavier than celluloid balls.


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because of the ball is abit heavy and thicker so the ball feel very solid when blocking a loop.
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this ball is good for hard rubbers like DHS H3
my friend is using DHS Pro H3
when I block his loop the ball feel so solid I feel a lot vibrations on my blade(never have this feel before when using normal nittaku ball)

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The 40+ Nittaku looks so milky white. How is the texture? Any powdery dust? And what blade are you using?

Edited by zeio - 06/13/2014 at 3:42am
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
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Great pictrures nittaku ball! Thumbs Up

The measurements are good to see... they bigger size is very obvious.

The weights comparison made me laugh LOL
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This is the most interesting topic for me from this week!
nittakuball:  Thank you very much for the photos and shared details! Now I feel mixed, as I almost fixed my future's combo after the knee injury recovering.
Now I will need to switch once again, may be?
I am using M.Maze ALC 90 gr. ST + Aurus Soft max both sides.
May be faster blade and hard sponged rubbers are waiting for me, because of the new ball's playing skills/specifies.
What do you think ?

Thanks in advance!

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Originally posted by kolevtt kolevtt wrote:

This is the most interesting topic for me from this week!
nittakuball:  Thank you very much for the photos and shared details! Now I feel mixed, as I almost fixed my future's combo after the knee injury recovering.
Now I will need to switch once again, may be?
I am using M.Maze ALC 90 gr. ST + Aurus Soft max both sides.
May be faster blade and hard sponged rubbers are waiting for me, because of the new ball's playing skills/specifies.
What do you think ?

Thanks in advance!



thanks,i think this ball is good for heavy blades,fast blades and hard rubbers,advantage for player have a lot power.(because of the thicker and heavy ball)
that"s what I think but I might be wrong......

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Maybe the ITTF is doing their usual skirting of the rules by 'increasing the tolerance'. Thus a heavier ball.
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Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Hmm... how can it be so heavy if it has to comply with the rules about weight?


+1

Sometimes the hardness of a ball deceives the feeling so the ball feels heavier, but it is actually harder...
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Changed my mind


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>60yo, presently less lardy, overweight rather than obese.

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Larry Hodges had a lot to say about this ball in his blog

http://tabletenniscoaching.com/node/1848


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As long as the ball is more consistent, I am fine. It sounds like this will be the case.
I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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Originally posted by reflecx reflecx wrote:

Larry Hodges had a lot to say about this ball in his blog

http://tabletenniscoaching.com/node/1848



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