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    Posted: 11/02/2022 at 2:20pm
https://world-tt.com/blog/news/archives/37708
Watanabe looks back on WTTC Finals 2022:
Hayata started feeling pain in her playing arm in the match against Uzbekistan;
He expected France(because of Yuan Jia Nan) instead of Slovakia in the QF;
Kihara was designated as the 3rd singles player, with Nagasaki as backup;
Hayata wanted to play in the final and was in the lineup the day before, but he didn't want to aggravate the injury and benched her;
They were stimulated by Harimoto and wanted to keep it going but CNT was impeccable;
With Hayata out, Ito told him "leave it to me. Let's do it." Despite being visibly disturbed by the unforced errors in the group, she got used to the ball and went into the final with confidence;
Even though Ito didn't play bad against WMY, she still couldn't win, therefore something must change, or something must be added;
In response to Konno[interviewer] citing Mizutani's comment that service and receive are the keys, that Ito uses reverse spin only when serving and should add gyro spin and pendulum spin, and should anticipate long serve when receiving, Watanabe says SYS also loses playing that way;
He expects CM to play Paris 2024 because she is treated as the trump card here;
On world class women's table tennis, Europe is so lonely. It feels to have always been in a slump. Unlike WTT, WTTC is an authoritative tournament. Other than China and Japan, perhaps the rest of the world is decreasing in level;
On Kihara and Nagasaki experiencing WTTC, Watanabe says it reaffirms that WTTC is a tournament that carries a lot of weight, unlike WTT individual events. He hopes the two of them can make good use of the invaluable experience gained from playing against China in the final next time. He thinks more Miwa Harimoto will appear in Japan in the foreseeable future, but it is important to experience the world in order to keep the players uninterrupted. He stresses that "defeat China" must be realized.

Edited by zeio - 11/02/2022 at 2:24pm
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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Originally posted by stiltt stiltt wrote:

Can't we ask those questions to 100 times more people and select the bad answers to make that movie? 

The same kind of movie can be done in any country and therefore all the countries would be on the verge of collapse? I guess "on the verge" is relative. On the geological scale, a country has collapsed very shortly after it came to be.

Bump. Imagine the following players making the podium and the announcer pronounces "Lily Zhang from Canada!" or "Alexis/Felix Lebrun from Monaco!" Badminton Danmark and BWF are getting grilled as of this moment because of that.

https://twitter.com/j_soekop/status/1584185265060397056
https://indonesiaexpat.id/news/denmark-apologises-for-mentioning-indonesian-badminton-winners-from-malaysia/
Denmark Open 2022: Indonesia = Malaysia
Indonesia: You want WWIII?

There is more.
https://english.news.cn/20221022/b1c22ad1514a4d07b3c031882236eab9/c.html

Edited by zeio - 10/25/2022 at 6:09am
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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Overall, I think most members in the forum are polite and considerate. A couple might have a little bigger "ego" than the rest, but still not out of the line.  Don't see that the mod needs to do anything here.
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The whole point of a forum is to argue.  Just try to argue about TT, any bit of minutiae you want, and try to make at least a small effort to not derail the threads by making it excessively personal or going hundreds of miles off topic.  Because the other members really don't enjoy scrolling through endless streams of some of this angst.

The only person I've banned in a long time is the many carnations of Sjan. 

And I'm not wanting to ban any of you guys.  Just try to understand that a ping pong forum is not life or death. 



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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

It's amusing how the mods keep telling members to move on, yet decide to keep this thread going the wrong way. One last response.

Again, I have no problem with name-calling if it pushes the discussion forward, which I've been subjected to for years. Nextlevel's case, however, is different. Unlike I, jackwong23, tom, et al., who are peers, you're not. You're in a position of power. At your discretion, you could wield the ban hammer to stop other members. Where were the other mods to rein you in? Is it right to assume the mods won't act unless someone hits that report button? If true, I'll no longer refrain from hitting that button in the future. Be warned. How is that any different from passive-aggression? How does that improve the sense of community if that's how we operate when divided?

Baal has admitted on multiple occasions that he spends more time on his other hobby(and likes to quote "harden the *bleep* up"). Is he even fit to serve as mod, for lack of motivation? Should he not keep himself to "For Sale" as he's not even listed under "General"? Should I just quote "harden the *bleep* up"?

I fixed the ailing forum once without any remuneration. Can't wait to see those who hit that report button to contribute to MyTT in a more concrete way.

Hi zeio,

In America, what you consider "power", we consider a form of "service".  I can't remember having the discretion (which is different from the ability) to ban or punish anyone but maybe you have examples of when I have done stuff.  I have the ability to ban people, but I always pretty much have to justify my decisions to anyone if asked.  It is like saying that I have the discretion to stab people which makes no sense to me.  Maybe you see it as "power", and maybe you want that power, tell stiltt that you want the "power", that you are convinced that at least two of the current moderators are not getting the job done.

You can lodge a formal complaint with stiltt/alexli if you feel that what I did was egregious enough.  I think most moderators have similar judgment but I will speak for myself.  I am disinclined to get between two posters interacting with each other unless I feel that they have not developed a rapport with each other.  Moreover, in the absence of a formal report, people can interpret my decisions as being grounded in favoritism, so I tend to avoid taking action in those circumstances where I have interacted with the posters.  In any case, everything is a judgment call, never been black or white to me unless you get sufficient mass behind a certain view.  That is partly why reporting is helpful.

Ultimately, these things come down to ownership vision, and we as moderators just execute on it as best we can. If you want to change the vision, sell the admins (alexli, stiltt) on your vision.  they may be more receptive than you think.

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Edited by NextLevel - 10/12/2022 at 10:18am
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by BRS BRS wrote:

It seems like there is a really simple solution that could work for everyone.   

I understand for some of the best posters that it isn't fun providing interesting content on the forum unless you can argue and talk shit to each other.  But that is really tedious and boring for those of us who only want the TT content. 

Why can't you insult each other and argue in PMs?  Take it outside, in effect?

If you understand the psychology of a performative poster, you will see that doesn't really make sense.  Audience matters.

LOL, I wanted them to have to say it, but you said it for them. 
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Originally posted by BRS BRS wrote:

It seems like there is a really simple solution that could work for everyone.   

I understand for some of the best posters that it isn't fun providing interesting content on the forum unless you can argue and talk shit to each other.  But that is really tedious and boring for those of us who only want the TT content. 

Why can't you insult each other and argue in PMs?  Take it outside, in effect?

If you understand the psychology of a performative poster, you will see that doesn't really make sense.  Audience matters.
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I think arguing should be part of the forum just leave out the name calling
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It seems like there is a really simple solution that could work for everyone.   

I understand for some of the best posters that it isn't fun providing interesting content on the forum unless you can argue and talk shit to each other.  But that is really tedious and boring for those of us who only want the TT content. 

Why can't you insult each other and argue in PMs?  Take it outside, in effect?
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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

It's amusing how the mods keep telling members to move on, yet decide to keep this thread going the wrong way. One last response.

Again, I have no problem with name-calling if it pushes the discussion forward, which I've been subjected to for years. Nextlevel's case, however, is different. Unlike I, jackwong23, tom, et al., who are peers, you're not. You're in a position of power. At your discretion, you could wield the ban hammer to stop other members. Where were the other mods to rein you in? Is it right to assume the mods won't act unless someone hits that report button? If true, I'll no longer refrain from hitting that button in the future. Be warned. How is that any different from passive-aggression? How does that improve the sense of community if that's how we operate when divided?

Baal has admitted on multiple occasions that he spends more time on his other hobby(and likes to quote "harden the *bleep* up"). Is he even fit to serve as mod, for lack of motivation? Should he not keep himself to "For Sale" as he's not even listed under "General"? Should I just quote "harden the *bleep* up"?

I fixed the ailing forum once without any remuneration. Can't wait to see those who hit that report button to contribute to MyTT in a more concrete way.
You make some good points zeio; however, I have to disagree with:

"Again, I have no problem with name-calling if it pushes the discussion forward, which I've been subjected to for years."

Name calling and other insults only serve to drag down a discussion into the gutter.  It's not something you or anyone else should be subjected to.  For some, it may take a certain amount of self control, but surely we can all have good discussion without it.  
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It's amusing how the mods keep telling members to move on, yet decide to keep this thread going the wrong way. One last response.

Again, I have no problem with name-calling if it pushes the discussion forward, which I've been subjected to for years. Nextlevel's case, however, is different. Unlike I, jackwong23, tom, et al., who are peers, you're not. You're in a position of power. At your discretion, you could wield the ban hammer to stop other members. Where were the other mods to rein you in? Is it right to assume the mods won't act unless someone hits that report button? If true, I'll no longer refrain from hitting that button in the future. Be warned. How is that any different from passive-aggression? How does that improve the sense of community if that's how we operate when divided?

Baal has admitted on multiple occasions that he spends more time on his other hobby(and likes to quote "harden the *bleep* up"). Is he even fit to serve as mod, for lack of motivation? Should he not keep himself to "For Sale" as he's not even listed under "General"? Should I just quote "harden the *bleep* up"?

I fixed the ailing forum once without any remuneration. Can't wait to see those who hit that report button to contribute to MyTT in a more concrete way.

Edited by zeio - 10/12/2022 at 5:32am
Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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I'm mostly a passive reader and for all the insights your posts provide, zeio, I do find the quips tedious.

It's absolutely amazing that you're willing to dig out 10 year-old comments at the bottom of MyTT or other Chinese online community sources and document every single one of your quotes and posts, but doing so to send snarky comments is not only not worth the effort, it's actively detrimental.
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Originally posted by Baal Baal wrote:

in the past I used to be a lot more proactive in stepping in to stop flame wars. There were some former members who were almost always contentious, legends of trolling, and we had to rein in a few of them so many times that they eventually quit (or we permanently banned them,). But at some point I started to wonder whether moderating so actively was actually having the effect of sucking the life out of the forum. So I've personally tended to let things boil and die down organically.   

It is hard to find that happy medium but clearly this thread had degraded to the point where mods were receiving complaints..

So those who have been warned, take heed.
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in the past I used to be a lot more proactive in stepping in to stop flame wars. There were some former members who were almost always contentious, legends of trolling, and we had to rein in a few of them so many times that they eventually quit (or we permanently banned them,). But at some point I started to wonder whether moderating so actively was actually having the effect of sucking the life out of the forum. So I've personally tended to let things boil and die down organically.   

It is hard to find that happy medium but clearly this thread had degraded to the point where mods were receiving complaints..

So those who have been warned, take heed.
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Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by bard romance bard romance wrote:

Tom, you have been throwing gas on the zeio/JW fire for years on repeated occasions, and everyone knows it including yourself. No need to feign innocence now. Just move on from it and get better. 
no feigning of any kind. I express my opinion.  Bard you are not a saint yourself so why the hypocrisy and unwarranted moral superiority?  

Mistake, I was thinking about another member when I replied above.  But  a quick search did reveal my last sentence to have some merit.  Just see some of Bard's comments on this very thread.
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Originally posted by bard romance bard romance wrote:

Tom, you have been throwing gas on the zeio/JW fire for years on repeated occasions, and everyone knows it including yourself. No need to feign innocence now. Just move on from it and get better. 
no feigning of any kind. I express my opinion.  Bard you are not a saint yourself so why the hypocrisy and unwarranted moral superiority?  

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Tom, you have been throwing gas on the zeio/JW fire for years on repeated occasions, and everyone knows it including yourself. No need to feign innocence now. Just move on from it and get better. 
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Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

hope what happened on this thread won't make the forum traffic even less than the current low level

From a benefit cost standpoint, if we can stop reading mostly tom calling jackwong23 amberheard23, we will accept it.  We would like to believe that most of the valued contributors can post without a return to such antics, and anyone who frequents the major TT webforums won't find mytt at a major disadvantage in terms of quality contributions.
not taking what you said seriously and not demanding you trace its origins, I don't know how amberheard23 came about but it seemed funny and joked around with it.  Just to set things straight.

Thankfully, you admitted to using the amberheard23 pejorative and hopefully you have accepted that you will stop.  Many people who didn't originate it never used it, so the choice to use it repeatedly was deliberate.  I am hoping that these posts are part of a good faith reset on your part.
how do I know if he had not posted as amberheard23 and that is how this banter came about?  When you saw that it was against the forum rules you could have informed me instead of using it as a retort on what I just said about the forum traffic.  BTW I said that not with me in mind as I am only a casual user.  I was thinking more about Zeio.

Everyone signed the forum rules when they joined the website and everyone tends to know when they are violating the forum rules, the truth is that we moderators tend to exercise wide discretion when enforcing forum rules for reasons including some of those you have given.  Zeio is pretending that the wide discretion was some attempt to give myself favoritism and you are now arguing that you didn't know you were violating forum rules because you were not informed.  Like I have said already, I hope this is all in good faith.  Your defense of zeio is acknowledged.  I honestly would prefer to moderate less, but it gets harder when we all claim righteousness rather than finding areas of mutual agreements.  We will see how it all works out.
I am not trying to defend outright insults, like idiot or moron (or Amberheard if it came about without cause).  I want to remind the forum that many users here prefer it over TTD because of the wider discretion given.
If that is truly the case, then I think we should figure out how to limit the abuse the discretion rather than assume that the discretion is not being abused.  As a realist of sorts, I admit that life is all about all kinds of tradeoffs, sometimes people make decisions over one issue such as "I can't stand NextLevel,  I will never post at mytt for that reason alone" but usually, we balance things and come to a conclusion.  

As I said, we will see where it ends up, but it is to no one's benefit if we think these recent back and forths represented some kind of ideal rather than something that had gone off the rails a bit and needed to be reigned in.  That said, I am pontificating a bit much, need to return to paying the bills.
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

hope what happened on this thread won't make the forum traffic even less than the current low level

From a benefit cost standpoint, if we can stop reading mostly tom calling jackwong23 amberheard23, we will accept it.  We would like to believe that most of the valued contributors can post without a return to such antics, and anyone who frequents the major TT webforums won't find mytt at a major disadvantage in terms of quality contributions.
not taking what you said seriously and not demanding you trace its origins, I don't know how amberheard23 came about but it seemed funny and joked around with it.  Just to set things straight.

Thankfully, you admitted to using the amberheard23 pejorative and hopefully you have accepted that you will stop.  Many people who didn't originate it never used it, so the choice to use it repeatedly was deliberate.  I am hoping that these posts are part of a good faith reset on your part.
how do I know if he had not posted as amberheard23 and that is how this banter came about?  When you saw that it was against the forum rules you could have informed me instead of using it as a retort on what I just said about the forum traffic.  BTW I said that not with me in mind as I am only a casual user.  I was thinking more about Zeio.

Everyone signed the forum rules when they joined the website and everyone tends to know when they are violating the forum rules, the truth is that we moderators tend to exercise wide discretion when enforcing forum rules for reasons including some of those you have given.  Zeio is pretending that the wide discretion was some attempt to give myself favoritism and you are now arguing that you didn't know you were violating forum rules because you were not informed.  Like I have said already, I hope this is all in good faith.  Your defense of zeio is acknowledged.  I honestly would prefer to moderate less, but it gets harder when we all claim righteousness rather than finding areas of mutual agreements.  We will see how it all works out.
I am not trying to defend outright insults, like idiot or moron (or Amberheard if it came about without cause).  I want to remind the forum that many users here prefer it over TTD because of the wider discretion given.
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Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

I'm glad the forum is getting cleaned up.  Things had been festering for years, and the forum rules had become a bit of a joke.  I sometimes find myself refraining from posting because although someone may have had an interesting point I wanted to respond to, it was in the middle of their flame war so I chose not to.  All of the toxicity was taking the fun out of the forum.  And ultiimately, that's what I hope to get from the forum: fun and interesting discussion.

It's a hard balancing act, and I am grateful you explicitly posted.  You are likely part of a silent but substantial crowd that sometimes needs to make its voice heard.  In the end, the forum is what we contribute to it - no more, no less.


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Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

hope what happened on this thread won't make the forum traffic even less than the current low level

From a benefit cost standpoint, if we can stop reading mostly tom calling jackwong23 amberheard23, we will accept it.  We would like to believe that most of the valued contributors can post without a return to such antics, and anyone who frequents the major TT webforums won't find mytt at a major disadvantage in terms of quality contributions.
not taking what you said seriously and not demanding you trace its origins, I don't know how amberheard23 came about but it seemed funny and joked around with it.  Just to set things straight.

Thankfully, you admitted to using the amberheard23 pejorative and hopefully you have accepted that you will stop.  Many people who didn't originate it never used it, so the choice to use it repeatedly was deliberate.  I am hoping that these posts are part of a good faith reset on your part.
how do I know if he had not posted as amberheard23 and that is how this banter came about?  When you saw that it was against the forum rules you could have informed me instead of using it as a retort on what I just said about the forum traffic.  BTW I said that not with me in mind as I am only a casual user.  I was thinking more about Zeio.

Everyone signed the forum rules when they joined the website and everyone tends to know when they are violating the forum rules, the truth is that we moderators tend to exercise wide discretion when enforcing forum rules for reasons including some of those you have given.  Zeio is pretending that the wide discretion was some attempt to give myself favoritism and you are now arguing that you didn't know you were violating forum rules because you were not informed.  Like I have said already, I hope this is all in good faith.  Your defense of zeio is acknowledged.  I honestly would prefer to moderate less, but it gets harder when we all claim righteousness rather than finding areas of mutual agreements.  We will see how it all works out.
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I'm glad the forum is getting cleaned up.  Things had been festering for years, and the forum rules had become a bit of a joke.  I sometimes find myself refraining from posting because although someone may have had an interesting point I wanted to respond to, it was in the middle of their flame war so I chose not to.  All of the toxicity was taking the fun out of the forum.  And ultiimately, that's what I hope to get from the forum: fun and interesting discussion.
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Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

hope what happened on this thread won't make the forum traffic even less than the current low level

From a benefit cost standpoint, if we can stop reading mostly tom calling jackwong23 amberheard23, we will accept it.  We would like to believe that most of the valued contributors can post without a return to such antics, and anyone who frequents the major TT webforums won't find mytt at a major disadvantage in terms of quality contributions.
not taking what you said seriously and not demanding you trace its origins, I don't know how amberheard23 came about but it seemed funny and joked around with it.  Just to set things straight.

Thankfully, you admitted to using the amberheard23 pejorative and hopefully you have accepted that you will stop.  Many people who didn't originate it never used it, so the choice to use it repeatedly was deliberate.  I am hoping that these posts are part of a good faith reset on your part.
how do I know if he had not posted as amberheard23 and that is how this banter came about?  When you saw that it was against the forum rules you could have informed me instead of using it as a retort on what I just said about the forum traffic.  BTW I said that not with me in mind as I am only a casual user.  I was thinking more about Zeio.
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Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

hope what happened on this thread won't make the forum traffic even less than the current low level

From a benefit cost standpoint, if we can stop reading mostly tom calling jackwong23 amberheard23, we will accept it.  We would like to believe that most of the valued contributors can post without a return to such antics, and anyone who frequents the major TT webforums won't find mytt at a major disadvantage in terms of quality contributions.
not taking what you said seriously and not demanding you trace its origins, I don't know how amberheard23 came about but it seemed funny and joked around with it.  Just to set things straight.

Thankfully, you admitted to using the amberheard23 pejorative and hopefully you have accepted that you will stop.  Many people who didn't originate it never used it, so the choice to use it repeatedly was deliberate.  I am hoping that these posts are part of a good faith reset on your part.
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

hope what happened on this thread won't make the forum traffic even less than the current low level

From a benefit cost standpoint, if we can stop reading mostly tom calling jackwong23 amberheard23, we will accept it.  We would like to believe that most of the valued contributors can post without a return to such antics, and anyone who frequents the major TT webforums won't find mytt at a major disadvantage in terms of quality contributions.
not taking what you said seriously and not demanding you trace its origins, I don't know how amberheard23 came about but it seemed funny and joked around with it.  Just to set things straight.
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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

hope what happened on this thread won't make the forum traffic even less than the current low level

Have faith. There's no shortage of people who hit the report button just because they can't be bothered to do some more scrolling for the biggest team tournament in 4 years, when there is little scrolling on TTD, which is just a few clicks away?

This is an interesting claim, one which I do not believe is supported by any data that I have seen in my years posting and moderating on this and any other forum.  I do hope the recent posts from people like zeio and tom who engaged in a lot of the back and forth are part of the attempt to help the forum find a new equilibrium.

I also wonder whether TTD would support the way you zeio use pictures to communicate match results to the same degree and in the same manner we do here.  I suspect they could, but it would be interesting to see anyways.  In the end, this forum, just like any other, has its strengths and weaknesses, and in the end, people will decide.  The party is over, we can all go home until someone throws another one.
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Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

hope what happened on this thread won't make the forum traffic even less than the current low level

Have faith. There's no shortage of people who hit the report button just because they can't be bothered to do some more scrolling for the biggest team tournament in 4 years, when there is little scrolling on TTD, which is just a few clicks away?
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Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

hope what happened on this thread won't make the forum traffic even less than the current low level

From a benefit cost standpoint, if we can stop reading mostly tom calling jackwong23 amberheard23, we will accept it.  We would like to believe that most of the valued contributors can post without a return to such antics, and anyone who frequents the major TT webforums won't find mytt at a major disadvantage in terms of quality contributions.
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