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XIOM Vega Japan Review |
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crackfst
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well fine, you got a point. who am i to critique/make fun of your superstitions, i am sorry
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Tinykin
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Really good posts. I can visualise very closely what this rubber is about. Only thing, how come it's so much cheaper than the other Xiom rubbers? I get the feeling that Xiom is not that great at pricing their stuff. |
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Darker Speed90 Rubber Fh and Bh DHS Hurricane 3, 39/38deg Delusion is an asset |
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128YinYang
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Really good posts. I can visualise very closely what this rubber is about. Only thing, how come it's so much cheaper than the other Xiom rubbers? I get the feeling that Xiom is not that great at pricing their stuff. There was another member who posted his response in this thread about an interview he had with a Xiom executive, stating that the guy basically said that Vega Japan was designed to be one of their top-shelf rubbers, but priced low to make it more available to average consumer. I'll find the quote and post it... |
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128YinYang
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Here it is! Many thanks to alphapong for getting the "scoop" on Vega Japan and Xiom's upcoming releases. I think we can expect them to be one of the best rivals in TT products for other companies (though i think they already are ) |
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Tinykin
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Thanks for the feedback. I'm very tempted to pull the paypal trigger. |
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Darker Speed90 Rubber Fh and Bh DHS Hurricane 3, 39/38deg Delusion is an asset |
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128YinYang
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I know what that feels like! |
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Roger Stillabower
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I wonder how the Vega Japan compares to the Omega 4 Asia ?
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128YinYang
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I can't say too much on that, as i have only briefly hit with Omega IV Pro & Asia for a couple of minutes each on someone else's blade. However, I can easily say that Vega Japan has a softer feel due to its topsheet, and I'm pretty sure it's bouncier too... |
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alphapong
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I got a response from Xiom on my sponge hardness question the other day. Since it did not match the notes I took, and some of it did not seem to make sense, I waited to confirm with him that the table I received was correct. Anyway he did that today, so here is what I got:
VEGA ELITE 40 I was puzzled about the Sigma hardness since Europe feels much softer. He said the sponge is the same, but the top sheet is harder on the Pro. |
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Rich215
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Thanks for that info alphapong...very useful.
I am really wondering about this rubber, can anyone compare it to Rakza 7 regular. Besides weight, what are the differences? Thanks for any help. |
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128YinYang
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I have owned Rakza 7 soft, but not the regular. I can say that Vega Japan is harder than R7S, spinnier, lower throw, faster, and better feel imo. |
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alphapong
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Raksa 7 regular is harder and more unforgiving than Vega Japan.
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stanton65
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Hi All,
I received my Xiom Vega Japan rubber 2 weeks ago and glued it as forehand to a Ross leidy Sotto Voce together with Rakza 7 soft(BH). This is my view of the Vega japan used as forehand, and I must say that I was surprised by its speed and control. Doing forehand backspin short serves is very strong and I must say that my opponents who rarely make receiving mistakes really have a hard time hitting the ball. Top spins on normal rallies and receiving serves is so much easier for me.Looping and counter looping is a dream combined to a relatively hard blade as the Sotto Voce.Blocking is very fast and can easily be placed to get a winning point. I can see a marked difference in speed (it is much faster) compared to my other Xiom rubbers (Vega Europe, Omega 4 Elite). I will definitely try it on my Yinhe T11+ and Stiga Intensity blades as forehand. |
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mr.ishaq
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I'm using Vega Europe for forehand with backhand Vega Elite. While playing, I felt my backhand is better with Europe - lower arc I believe. Thanks for the info. Will change forehand rubber to Pro or Japan. Won't use Sigma or Omega for now, I don't think my skills are sufficient enough for that rubbers. |
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AndySmith
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Wanted to try Vega Japan, arrived today, just stuck them on the Peterpan.
Red 2.0mm - Uncut weight 64g - Cut weight 47g Black 2.0mm - Uncut weight 66g - Cut weight 48g Oh, and it has the Bluefire/Rasant tuner smell, but not as potent. In fact, it smells very much like Sigma II. Edited by AndySmith - 05/03/2013 at 11:22am |
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128YinYang
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ENJOY! Vega Japan is still my official BH rubber :)
I'd like to hear your opinions on it, and if you found anything about it different from my review. Also, everyone stay tuned for a review of the new Victas V>01 rubber, as I am currently testing that. Edited by 128YinYang - 05/03/2013 at 1:26pm |
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Rich215
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Ok after someone has this rubber for 4 to 6 months and the tuning wears off...let us know what it is like. lol
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carmelomaf
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Today i played the vega japan and the tau on a boll spirit
the vega japan is very good rubber, fast and with very good spin the sponge ist quite hard, porous like evolution el-p the topsheet ist thin and very elastic in my opinon the rubber is good for both side,vh and bh I played in the passt all old vega rubbers and i find the japan version totaly different, it is more like evo fx-p/el-p
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geek
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Yesterday, I put 1 more layer of Falco Tempo Booster tuning on sponge, 4 - 5 layers of Haifu VOC Free Glue and stick XIOM Vega Japan 2.0 on my Stiga Rosewood NCT V blade. I'm very surprised. Speed and spin was excellent, amazing control, a lot of balls came to the table without a lot of hassle. It’s surely better than Vega Europe, it’s easier to play than Vega Pro. Today, on my 2nd blade, I will stick Omega IV Europe and than make comparisation. |
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FH: Giant Dragon Storm 2.1 BH: DHS Hurricane3 Neo National 2.2 |
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decoi
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vega europe. felt kinda poor.. waaay too mushy
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Blade: DHS Hurricane Hao
FH: TG3 BS BH: Xiom Omega 4 Aisa Blade: Hurricane Hao 2 (656) Fh: Dhs Gold Arc 3 Bh: Stiga Tour H http://www.youtube.com/user/decoyla?feature=mhee |
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ttman
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Anyone compare vega Japan and acuda s1?
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ckhirnigs113
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I'm interested in a comparison between Vega Japan and Sigma II Europe. They both have the same sponge hardness, but I wonder which would be better for a modern defensive game with occasional chopping on the forehand side. Has anyone played with both?
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Blade: Victas Koji Matsushita FL
FH: Xiom Vega Japan MAX BH: TSP P-1R 1.0mm USATT Rating: 1947 |
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AndySmith
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I've used both. Vega Japan is a touch slower than Sigma II, has a more neutral feel and throw. I'd say VJ would be a better fit with an allround / defensive game (although I wouldn't call it slow), while S-II is more of an all-out looping rubber. Both spin the ball really well, but I think it's easier to keep the ball low and play a wider variety of shots with VJ. Plus, VJ gets better spin with softer shots, while I found that S-II needs more effort (but has a better payoff on bigger shots). |
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This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated.
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ckhirnigs113
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AndySmith, I really appreciate the info. I was leaning towards Vega Japan mainly for the description of its soft topsheet. I play with Palio CJ8000 right now, and it also has a very soft topsheet. I think this helps with touch and defensive shots like chopping. I look forwards to trying out Vega Japan.
Did you use 2.0mm or max when you tried Vega Japan?
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Blade: Victas Koji Matsushita FL
FH: Xiom Vega Japan MAX BH: TSP P-1R 1.0mm USATT Rating: 1947 |
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AndySmith
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Mine are 2.0mm. Faster than CJ8, but not to the point of madness.
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This was a great signature until I realised it was overrated.
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debraj
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its nice to hear an 'elite' player say 'europe' is mushy .. ;) |
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decoi
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i wouldnt consider myself elite by any means :D |
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Blade: DHS Hurricane Hao
FH: TG3 BS BH: Xiom Omega 4 Aisa Blade: Hurricane Hao 2 (656) Fh: Dhs Gold Arc 3 Bh: Stiga Tour H http://www.youtube.com/user/decoyla?feature=mhee |
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Imago
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I found it also to be utterly out of place on Stiga Allround, but it was extremely fast on Xiom Offensive S, AVX C555, or TBS. I don't believe Vega Japan will perfectly fit any blade...
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beeray1
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this actually makes a lot of sense. When tenergy came out, everyone and their mom was saying T64 was softer sponge, and T25 was harder sponge. Nobody would accept or believe that they all had the SAME sponge, and that the difference in feeling was just from the topsheet. But that in fact is the truth. Still today some people are saying that they have softer/harder sponges in comparison.
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smarta
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did you try vega japan on ynhr t11+? what do you think about it? |
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