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Could be vladitt the same as vladd or azinoth???
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some people say t64t64t64 is vladitt in disguise but they did not bring any proof about that connection.
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btw, vladitt = bulgaria

vladd and azinoth = romania
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Originally posted by Lestat Lestat wrote:

One last thing: statistically speaking, in cases like this I'd say the chances for the seller simply not to post are a lot greater than the item actually being lost in the post.

Could you explain? What are chances of an item being lost in the post? In my EJ career I had a few "losses" from the post (sending or receiving). 

There is only one that I am absolutely sure it is the Post fault because I know the person well enough. He simply sent the item and it simply never arrived. 

One item arrived 3-4 months later. 

One item was supposedly not received but I somehow found out later that it actually was, because I caught the trader trying to trade the blade again and the pics were exact match. He still denies and said he got this blade (exact pic match) by somebody else (maybe a guy from the post LOL ) but still accepted to send the money he owed...When he told me that he didn't receive the blade but that I could keep the blade he sent to me (it was trade) but would not send the money according to the value difference we agreed. I found this nice or maybe suspicious. I felt bad to be suspicious (in case he was nice) but I was right at the end...

One item was not received by a buyer but I am still wondering if it's true or not. I proposed full refund to the buyer but he said that half-half was ok which I think again is nice or suspicious by pretending to be nice. 

One item I never received in a trade but I am 99,9% sure that it was never sent because the other person was a bit suspicious since the beginning (and I was naive). he never sent my blade back and now he doesn't reply and even changed his e-mail address. 

Recently I received an envelop containing an empty blade box...it looks like the envelop was opened and closed again so most likely it has been stolen on the way or (because of previous experience I am very suspicious) the seller pretended through some weird packaging that it was stolen on the way while he actually never sentit. This sounds quite crazy but is not completely because according to 3 years ebay history the seller already sent twice a tissue instead of the item...(unfortunately I only saw that only later, because he had 100% for the last 12 months and I didn't bother to check older transactions) 


Sorry for the slight off-topic but I hope people can learn from my mistakes and/or unlucky experiences. On the other hand I had so many successfull transactions that this amount of troubles might be quite low in percentage and we can say that I actually had a lot of lucky experiences according to the fact that this kind of transactions are more or less risky. I think I must have received at least 500 items and sent about 300. 
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Originally posted by ttping85 ttping85 wrote:

Originally posted by Lestat Lestat wrote:

One last thing: statistically speaking, in cases like this I'd say the chances for the seller simply not to post are a lot greater than the item actually being lost in the post.

Could you explain? What are chances of an item being lost in the post? In my EJ career I had a few "losses" from the post (sending or receiving). 


In my dealings with ebay, I had maybe 2 items lost in some 1200 transactions over the last 10 years. A quarter of those transactions were cross border. But then again, it's pretty pointless to 'lose' items in the post on ebay. At best, you will have to refund. It seems strange to me that as soon as you introduce the concept of paypal gift, the chances for your item to get  lost in the post increase substantially.

The answer is simple: human nature. I hate to be so gloomy and doomy but there is a lot of naivety floating about on this forum. I'm not saying be suspicious of everybody and anybody - that would be a terrible way to live, but exercise some common sense when you buy or sell stuff.
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ok thanks. I guess this gives quite a lot of trust to Postal Services (even cross-boarder) and mistrust to the seller (or buyer) if the item gets "lost".

I guess my statistic of postal losses, 2 or 3 out of 800, is not far from you experience.

Do you always send/receive cross-boarders with tracking? Registered? With insurance?
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Originally posted by ttping85 ttping85 wrote:

ok thanks. I guess this gives quite a lot of trust to Postal Services (even cross-boarder) and mistrust to the seller (or buyer) if the item gets "lost".

I guess my statistic of postal losses, 2 or 3 out of 800, is not far from you experience.

Do you always send/receive cross-boarders with tracking? Registered? With insurance?

Outside always with registered post (partially tracked, but I can see when the buyer signs for it) with insurance as it's cheap to buy. Full tracking is usually for more expensive items, as it has to go by DHL/Fedex.

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how much price difference per transaction between economic sending and registered with insurance?
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in my case he doesn't even pretend that he sent anything. He told me that he collects the money and someone else has the blades and ships them. So he has no idea if the third party shipped or not. However, if the third party did not ship, I am the one to take the hit. 

This is wrong on so many levels. I should have been told that he doesn't even have the blade. He has no proof of a blade being shipped at all. He can't just collect my money and not even care if the other person ships it. 

I don't believe for a second that my blade was ever shipped. Stuff does not just get lost. They will return it back to him in the worst case. I have never had stuff get lost, and god know i buy loads of crap from overseas. 
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Originally posted by assiduous assiduous wrote:

in my case he doesn't even pretend that he sent anything. He told me that he collects the money and someone else has the blades and ships them. So he has no idea if the third party shipped or not. However, if the third party did not ship, I am the one to take the hit. 

This is wrong on so many levels. I should have been told that he doesn't even have the blade. He has no proof of a blade being shipped at all. He can't just collect my money and not even care if the other person ships it. 

I don't believe for a second that my blade was ever shipped. Stuff does not just get lost. They will return it back to him in the worst case. I have never had stuff get lost, and god know i buy loads of crap from overseas. 

Same modus operandi that Azinoth/Vladd, to blame third person
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Originally posted by ttping85 ttping85 wrote:

how much price difference per transaction between economic sending and registered with insurance?

Here in the UK, it would cost me around £12-15 to send a blade to the US with Royal Mail signed for. Fedex is £20-25.

I could send it standard mail (no signature) for £7 but I never use that service.
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ok thanks so it's about £5-7 difference. So with 1200 transactions that would make £6000-8400 difference. Maybe that is where is the temptation? If send/receive with regular mail and get tricked let's say about 8 times and have 2 real losses by the post it would only make a £1000 difference if we take a £100 average for the item being sent. I am not saying this to justify or to defend this kind of risky way to do things but I am just saying that it might be a considerable incentive for people. 
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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

some people say t64t64t64 is vladitt in disguise but they did not bring any proof about that connection.

I am thinking of purchasing a Tenergy 64 from t64t64t64. Would you recommend I do not go through with the transaction?
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Originally posted by ttping85 ttping85 wrote:

ok thanks so it's about £5-7 difference. So with 1200 transactions that would make £6000-8400 difference. Maybe that is where is the temptation? If send/receive with regular mail and get tricked let's say about 8 times and have 2 real losses by the post it would only make a £1000 difference if we take a £100 average for the item being sent. I am not saying this to justify or to defend this kind of risky way to do things but I am just saying that it might be a considerable incentive for people. 
 
 
From economic view the example is right but 1200 Transactions is very much.Thumbs Up
 
I have to wonder what People have in mind to trade or sell an item they even do not have at their home.
If i want to sell an item that is mine but it is not available at the moment because i gave it to a teammate for testing for example i cannot sell it!Confused
I would never ask my teammate, friend or whatever to send the item out for me. It is my responsibility as seller to ship it myself and not to rely on others...
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Originally posted by Timo1978 Timo1978 wrote:

Originally posted by ttping85 ttping85 wrote:

ok thanks so it's about £5-7 difference. So with 1200 transactions that would make £6000-8400 difference. Maybe that is where is the temptation? If send/receive with regular mail and get tricked let's say about 8 times and have 2 real losses by the post it would only make a £1000 difference if we take a £100 average for the item being sent. I am not saying this to justify or to defend this kind of risky way to do things but I am just saying that it might be a considerable incentive for people. 
 
 
From economic view the example is right but 1200 Transactions is very much.Thumbs Up
 

yes when you have a small amount of transactions that doesn't work and anyway the risky procedure is much more stressfull each time...

I don't proceed the same way if the item if $30 (regular mail) or $200 (tracking and/or insurance) worth. That's a middle way. 
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Originally posted by ttping85 ttping85 wrote:

ok thanks so it's about £5-7 difference. So with 1200 transactions that would make £6000-8400 difference. Maybe that is where is the temptation? If send/receive with regular mail and get tricked let's say about 8 times and have 2 real losses by the post it would only make a £1000 difference if we take a £100 average for the item being sent. I am not saying this to justify or to defend this kind of risky way to do things but I am just saying that it might be a considerable incentive for people. 

When I said 1200 transactions I meant buying and selling lumped together. For the purpose of this statistic buying is just as relevant as it still uses postal services.

Also, the buyer pays the postage so I'm not too worried about the difference. You could argue I have to price the item a little less, but then again what is the exact right price especially for a second hand item? It's not an exact science.

I think you have a point though. some people are like that. They focus on every little penny and miss the big picture. I cringe sometimes when I see some of the prices in the 'for sale' section? I mean, what's the point of selling if you are NOT going to sell? Each to their own.
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