DO NOT deal with ttFaka. SCAMMER

pipigrande wrote: I think too many people are being unfair with the supposed scammer. It is obvious that he doesn't speak English fluently and that some words that he might want to say doesn't get translated in the correct way, thus resulting in a misunderstanding. BTW, just for the record I'm not defending him, but I'm just neutral. TBH, The guy to me seems to be telling the truth. Am I stupidly blind? Perhaps. Anyhow, if he was really trying to scam, I believe he wouldn't be trying to defend himself. And simply would create a different account with masked a IP (which is simple to do anyways). I understand Spanish, so I understand where he is coming from. With that being said, I think the morale of the story is that before selling anything make sure both parties completely understand what is being sold/bought and under what conditions. Always make sure not only once, but at least twice. Good luck.

Are you saying that he is not a scammer and I am the scammer? And he is the one to tell the truth by claiming the dispute to take the money and my blade.

Edited by tdragon - 10/26/2010 at 7:29pm

tdragon wrote: pipigrande wrote: I think too many people are being unfair with the supposed scammer. It is obvious that he doesn't speak English fluently and that some words that he might want to say doesn't get translated in the correct way, thus resulting in a misunderstanding. BTW, just for the record I'm not defending him, but I'm just neutral. TBH, The guy to me seems to be telling the truth. Am I stupidly blind? Perhaps. Anyhow, if he was really trying to scam, I believe he wouldn't be trying to defend himself. And simply would create a different account with masked a IP (which is simple to do anyways). I understand Spanish, so I understand where he is coming from. With that being said, I think the morale of the story is that before selling anything make sure both parties completely understand what is being sold/bought and under what conditions. Always make sure not only once, but at least twice. Good luck. Are you saying that he is not a scammer and I am the scammer? And he is the one to tell the truth by claiming the dispute to take the money and my blade.   What happened if I did not fight against the dispute. Oh Well! he would take my money and he is truthful guy who does not know how to speak english well, so people trust him.

I did not imply you were the scammer. Just saying that there could be some misunderstanding and obviously he can't explain himself clearly. Everyone is bound to have different opinions and there will some people that will blindly support their friends and others that will have an unbias opinion (me).

And in my opinion, there aren't enough facts to blame him. But hey I'm not a mod, if you want to ban him, go ahead. Alex's proof is just something to add to this guy's blame. But is it the ultimate proof? Not in my opinion. Something could have happened back then to the buyer, which made him not buy the stuff. I don't know.


Edited by pipigrande - 10/26/2010 at 7:42pm

elmatif wrote: pipigrande wrote: I did not imply you were the scammer. Just saying that there could be some misunderstanding and obviously he can't explain himself clearly. Everyone is bound to have different opinions and there will some people that will blindly support their friends and others that will have an unbias opinion (me). And in my opinion, there aren't enough facts to blame him. But hey I'm not a mod, if you want to ban him, go ahead. Alex's proof is just something to add to this guy's blame. But is it the ultimate proof? Not in my opinion. Something could have happened back then to the buyer, which made him not buy the stuff. I don't know. Español: Correcto, yo abrí la disputa porque no me envio imagenes de confirmacion de envio como el menciono. Translate Correct, I opened the dispute because not me sending images of confirmation of sending since I mention.

What kind of confirmation images could  there be? A photo of a package being given to a post office worker?

if there is no tracking number than there is really no official postal receipt, and there are no "images".

Filing a dispute in this case based on this seems (at least at first glance) like a pure case of "buyer trolling"...

@JimT
Tu si que no me entiendes, cuando vas a enviar algo debes llenar un formulario, esa foto queria..

You really do not understand me, when you go to send something you have to fill out a form, that picture I wanted ..

Here is what I have escalated the claim in paypal. After I escalated the claim, the dispute was closed.

Edited by tdragon - 10/26/2010 at 9:35pm

haggisv wrote: elmatif wrote: @JimT Tu si que no me entiendes, cuando vas a enviar algo debes llenar un formulario, esa foto queria.. You really do not understand me, when you go to send something you have to fill out a form, that picture I wanted .. I think it's you that does not understand... You agreed to buy something, and you agree on the shipping methods. You made the payment (which implies that you accepted the terms), so the seller shipped the goods. You can't change your mind after this, just because the seller did not send you the information you needed. If you're not happy, you should try and sort it out with the seller first, and give him a reasonable amount of time to respond. Also are you the same person as ttFaka? If so, why do you have 2 usernames?

elmatif wrote: Escribe texto o la dirección de un sitio web o traduce un documento. Cancelar < style="display: none;" name="" id="" size="40" =""> Escuchar Entonces, me trataran de estafador siendo que el tiene el dinero y quizas el madero. Ya me tiene harto el tema.. nadie sabe si el lo envio Then I try to con being that he has the money and maybe the blade. I got fed up and the theme .. no one knows if he sent him

elmatif wrote: Escribe texto o la dirección de un sitio web o traduce un documento. Cancelar < style="display: none;" name="" id="" size="40" =""> Escuchar Entonces, me trataran de estafador siendo que el tiene el dinero y quizas el madero. Ya me tiene harto el tema.. nadie sabe si el lo envio Then I try to con being that he has the money and maybe the blade. I got fed up and the theme .. no one knows if he sent him

roundrobin wrote:     No entiendo.  Si eres tan miedoso porque compraste desde alguien tu no conoces... De todos modos tienes que dar mas tiempo para que el envio se llega, no?  Quejar a Paypal despues de solo dos or tres dias no esta bien.

Yo confiaba en el, solo que no me envio ningun mensaje para confirmarme aunque sea.

I wonder how long are all these nonsense going to last before the moderator shut him down?

elmatif wrote: el no me dijo nunca que me lo envio, yo se que se demoraria mas o menos 2 semanas, pero como el no aviso dije a este se llevo mi dinero.. He never said to me that sending, I that demoraria more or less 2 weeks, but since I do not warn charm this one take my money to him..

Edited by tdragon - 10/27/2010 at 3:18pm

roundrobin wrote: elmatif wrote: el no me dijo nunca que me lo envio, yo se que se demoraria mas o menos 2 semanas, pero como el no aviso dije a este se llevo mi dinero.. He never said to me that sending, I that demoraria more or less 2 weeks, but since I do not warn charm this one take my money to him.. Better translation: "He never told me that he sent the merchandise, I know it will take about two weeks (to get here), but since he never let me know (the status) I said he took my money..."

It's been quite entertaining reading this thread.  First, I think elmatif was definitely up to something sneaky.  I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt initially, but with the prior occurence with MYTT shop and now this, it's apparent what he was trying to do.  He ordered the blade from tdragon, dragon sent it, and our Chilean poster opened a claim with Paypal when he knew the blade had been shipped.  BTW, it's worth mentioning that the blade is on the way (barring any problems with Chilean mail service) so at the very worst, elmatif is getting the blade which he paid for.  He hasn't lost anything.

BeaverMD wrote: It's been quite entertaining reading this thread.  First, I think elmatif was definitely up to something sneaky.  I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt initially, but with the prior occurence with MYTT shop and now this, it's apparent what he was trying to do.  He ordered the blade from tdragon, dragon sent it, and our Chilean poster opened a claim with Paypal when he knew the blade had been shipped.  BTW, it's worth mentioning that the blade is on the way (barring any problems with Chilean mail service) so at the very worst, elmatif is getting the blade which he paid for.  He hasn't lost anything.   Si me falta algo, explica me.  Entiendo espanol tambien para elmatif.  No hablo tan bueno como roundrobin pero es suficiente.   (off topic) Yo round, have you played in Latin America lately? I'm always suprised how players always put their cell phone/Blackberry/iPhone on the table by the net.  Sometimes, there will be two on each side of the net.  In the middle of a rally, you hear the phone ringing or receiving a text.  And when the ball goes outside the barrier, they actually get the phone and text a reply while I'm picking it up.  It was annoying at first but after a while, I was able to just ignore it.  Good tournament focus training

Never know what lurks in the heart of men... Better be careful than sorry.

I was going to Buenos Aires with my wife last November, but had to cancel the tickets due to a last-minute business trip... I do get quite a few ping pong buddies visiting from all over S. America in the last two years:  Ecuador, Venezuela, Chile, Peru, Colombia, Brazil, and Argentina.  For these guys, picking up an "important" call in the middle of the game is the norm, lol... The same with many S. Korean buddies I have.    To be honest I feel these guys take the game lighter than many local Americans and that makes it more enjoyable to me...

It's probably a good idea to establish a reasonable time table for the transaction so that both parties can have expectations for a good outcome.