<drum roll please> Andro Super-Core Kinetic OFF+

Well I finally got my grubby hands on an Andro blade. I'd always wanted to try one. Don't know what did me in, could have been the interesting technologies they pitch or that catchy yellow logo!

So I took the plunge for a Super-Core Kinetic OFF+ (I was actually trying to get OFF but they were sold out) and a pair of 2.0mm Plasma 380s (hope to slow down the pace just a tad).

So fresh and so clean I like how they shrink wrap the blade it's a nice touch. None of my other blades have come like that.

Can't wait to try this thing. Gotta seal, wait, glue, wait, and play! I'll try to post back some initial impressions. But don't expect too much as I've only limited experience to get across how it plays, but i should be able to give basic comparisons to the blades in my sig.

Anyone else have this snazzy blade?

Congrats.  I used to own the Super Core Kinetic OFF+ blade.  It was a very good blade.  The design and fit of the handle were great.  It played very nice too (good power and control).  I sold it to a guy in my club since I have too many blades and he has been thanking me ever since. :)  You will be happy with this blade I think.

Hmm. Yeah I guess when something's sold out there's usually a reason for it. So do you think the OFF+ is probably way more stiff? Will it be stiffer than my Stradi?

Ok, well if it's similar to the Stradi in feel then at least I will not be disappointed. Although the Stradi is stiffer than some other blades I play very well with it and my sensitivity is well accustomed to it's style of play.

I have heard a lot of people say good things about the Carbo-Aramid. If I feel good with this Andro, maybe that will be my next blade. I can't imagine a blade similar to Stradi but even better feel, sounds like heaven

Now you make me salivate over Andro products. As a matter of fact, I just visited a new TT store that carries Andro. The owner showcase Cell Core Series, complete range with only Off- missing (sold out). He has 1 Carbo-Aramid left and now I am wondering, how do you compare Carbo-Aramid with TBS and MMaze?

Thanks.

tdragon wrote: Ando Carbo-Aramid has better control , better feeling comparing with TBS and Michael Maze. It also is lighter. However, it is not fast. I would say OFF- to OFF.

Thank you, tdragon.  Does it have more dwell time compared to TBS and MMaze?

k I played some games with the Kinetic OFF+ today. It felt great, despite worries that it would be stiff, i thought it had a great feel, kinda reminded my of my friends Clipper, but I thought it had slightly less vibration. It was a joy to play with, felt more control and softer to me than my Stradivarius. Paired with the Plasma 380s it delivered good spin and an amazing sound when I unloaded! I was rewarded with a satisfying <crack/pop>. Actually, when I first started using it, i briefly had visions of making this my new setup. However, it's actually quite a bit faster that the Stradi I feel. It was a little too fast for me. My blocks were going long and my short pushes were kinda all over. lol. I think the speed is still controllable though, the jump is within range that I think it would not be THAT hard to adjust from the OFF-/OFF speeds of the Stradi and develop the touch to make this my main weapon. But I'm staying with the Stradi for now because I still have a couple kinks to work out in some of my strokes. But I look forward to when I start using this in some serious matches

TWO THUMBS UP!

(Note: yeah, this blade is probably for more advanced players that have experience playing with speed, and have developed a good touch. As mentioned near the beginning of the thread, a better alternative for most would probably be the OFF version. But yes KINETIC ROCKS!)

doraemon wrote: Now you make me salivate over Andro products. As a matter of fact, I just visited a new TT store that carries Andro. The owner showcase Cell Core Series, complete range with only Off- missing (sold out). He has 1 Carbo-Aramid left and now I am wondering, how do you compare Carbo-Aramid with TBS and MMaze? Thanks.

Super Core Cell OFF- is Available here:

http://www.dandoy-sports.com/product_info.php?pName=andro-super-core-cell-off--2&cName=blades

Im always amazed at how much technical info Andro give with their blades,  (see description below) is a bit confusing. You have Kinetic, Super Core, Super Core Kinetic, Super Core Cell, Has anyone used the new Super Core Cell blades yet? I wonder if they are head heavy as the handles of the supercore have foam in them?

When producing a high-performance blade the perfect harmonisation of the different veneers is the key. The optimum combination of the veneer thickness is the secret when constructing upscale table tennis blades. By intensifying the ball rebound effect andro succeeded to create the SuperCore CELL range, the next level of the established SuperCore series and an innovative adaptation to the needs of modern table tennis. The handle�s foam chamber is parted into small cells resulting in a more precise absorption of vibration and creating counter-energy for the next stroke. The 360� veneer edge protection prevents from mechanic influences. The CELL blades with their revolutionary structure are ideally adapted to the change of playing characteristics by the upcoming speed-glue ban. Features -High rebound effect realised by thin outer veneers -Small cells in the handle maximise the vibration absorption -Innovative 360� edge protection prolongs durability -Higher ball flying curve improves hitting area and control -Strengthened blade fibre structure creates a better energy transport and excellent ball feedback -Enlarged sweetspot area provides high mistake tolerance -Decreased level of wrist fatigue due to lower weight. Super Core CELL OFF- The CELL OFF- combines the power of an offensive blade with the fantastic feeling for the ball known from an allround wood � therefore the ideal choice for many players. Though the OFF- is relatively fast you will never have the feeling of losing control of the ball. This enables to comfortably reliable blocks without the loss of speed especially in the passive play. A change-over to active top spins happens easily because the high base speed reduces work. The innovative small cells within the grip system filled with special foam maximise the feeling for the ball and further help to decrease the error rate for strokes hit under time pressure. The perfect blade for the sportive offensive athlete.

patrick1v wrote: In actuality none of the andro blades are head heavy, they are all well balanced. Like i posted before, the carbo-aramid is the best of the bunch followed by the supercore off kinetic, the suss supercore kinetic off,the saive kinetic off then the cell off+. The carbo-aramid is a bit softer feel than both these blades(tbs,mmaze) you mention and also good controll.i think what people dont like about these blades are that they have a compact headsize the blade is verygood for blocking this blade has such good feeling.also the cell off plus plays very nice.the normal supercore series are not as nice as the cell or kinetic series

I have a Super Core Kinetic OFF and its good to know that its a fine blade. It was given to me as a present by mistake (I had specified OFF+ and the person buying got confused).

It has great feel and control with good enough speed.

Recently I switched to short pips (both sides) and I am wondering if this blade is suited for aggressive all pips hitting style.

Some players have suggested that  a stiffer blade such as Clipper or Avalox 700 would be better suited for pips.

Another club player (one of the better ones) has also criticized my blade as a poor choice and said that "its better suited for loopers". I don't think he realized that I used the grippy 802-40 pips and not the regular 802.

Has anyone here used  short pips on the Super Core Kinetic series?

 

gundam wrote: Here's my current setup ... Andro Kinetic Explorer (OFF+) with Andro COR short pimples, max (BH) and Andro COR 2, max (FH) and all I can say is that it is a thing of beauty! I've been playing with it for two weeks now...

Is the Explorer better than the Super Core Kinetic OFF+?

Patrick1v,

So, out of these four, how would you put them in order of the better blades? Why? I know you mentioned your order of preference of Andro blades earlier but I was quite a bit confuse with all the naming. Here are four that's available locally and just would like to you know thoughts about these four:

Andro JM Saive Kinetic Off-
Andro JM Saive Kinetic Off
Andro Super Core Kinetic Off+
Andro C.Suss Kinetic Hinoki / Explorer

well for flat pips hitting the explorer kinetic and off kinetic+ are prob the two best.for spin the carbo-aramid and kinetic off and the cell off+ suss off are the best.also the all+ kinetic very nice feeling and controll blade.