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cheapo 
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 Topic: How do you make "Treated Pips"?Posted: 07/25/2007 at 5:54pm |
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I hear a lot of talk these days about "Treated Pips". I also hear that you can "treat" your own pips.
Can some one explain what "Treated Pips" are and is it possible to "Treat" your own LPs? and if you can treat your own LPs how do you do it?
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TT_Freak
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Posted: 07/26/2007 at 3:50am |
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Treating pips is illegal and against the spirit of table tennis.
PS: Put some super glue on the top of your pips. |
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Posted: 07/26/2007 at 6:07am |
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Spraying hairspray on your pips may help also ..
Didn't ty it myself (yet)
 .But coating your pips with superglue is noticable, because after playing the tops of your pips become white.. |
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Atomica
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Posted: 07/26/2007 at 6:45am |
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Soak your pips in spinmax first.
This will make them very sticky and spinny. Then brush a little bit of superglue on the tips of the pips. This will make the top of the pips frictionless when the glue has dried. Result: Smooth frictionless pip tips with sticky spinny sides. |
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Posted: 07/26/2007 at 10:42am |
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In italy some players are specialized in treat long pimpled and is near impossible to play against them: one of them told me how to treat but never tried. I wrote it on my website but it is in italian language; i try to explain in english but my english is not so good.
the easy way is to put some oil on the pimples
the best way: you have to put long pimple in a box with solvent (trichloroethylene) some seconds; immediatly the rubber enlarges; when the pimples are near the original width but a bit larger is better, put inside another box with linen oil to keep that new shape. After you will have a rubber with larger pimple but softer and very deceptive.
Another way is to cook the rubber inside microwave or owen, or to let it in the sun to have a slower rubber.
Another way is to put some cream under the rubber
but if you use some rubbers you are not a sportman and is not legal: but I think everyone has to know how can be treated a rubber
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Posted: 07/26/2007 at 11:32am |
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LOL
You have my sentiments man.
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cheapo
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Posted: 07/26/2007 at 1:01pm |
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Thanks for the replies.
I am was not aware of the large number of ways you can Treat pips. I had heard of the super glue method, however, I can't figure out how you actually treat just the top of the pips. Super glue drys VERY fast, so it would see very difficult to "roller" it on.
Isn't some of Dr. Neubauer rubber sheets considered "treated"?
I am just doing some research on this subject for educational purposes only.
Thanks Lucioping for some of your ideas. What is the Italian web address that you wrote about?
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Posted: 07/26/2007 at 3:05pm |
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All the Dr.'s rubber sheets are treated, but within the old regulations of the ittf. Now with the upcoming minimum friction limit, most of the Dr. Neubauer rubbers will be banned (i guess). Even the 755 Faster will be forbidden i heard ... :(
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Posted: 07/26/2007 at 4:10pm |
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 What strange effects would microwaving your pips have? Will it soften the pips, or just harden it? Does the color change if the pips are red?
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Posted: 07/26/2007 at 10:08pm |
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The idea of treating long pimples is usaully to make the tips very different from the sides of the pimples, so you get a different effect depending on how much you bend the tips. This has actually always been against the ITTF rules (since rubber material needs to be continuous), but the ITTF has recently annouced that they will ban them.
Their test for treated pips is to measure the friction level since most treated pips have very low friction levels. Unfortunately this has the effect of banning some of the non-treated pips as well, which I strongly oppose!
There should be nothing wrong with having a sheet of completely frictionless long pimples, it does not break any ITTF rules....
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Posted: 07/26/2007 at 10:53pm |
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I know that playing with pips requires skills also, but I still think that pips players depend too much on the rubbers rather than their normal skill. I hope I don't create an uproar among pips players with my comment. The reason I said this: there is an old player in my club that play with treated pips and it's hard to beat him because in order to do that we have to beat both him and his rubbers (too deceptive). |
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Posted: 07/26/2007 at 11:26pm |
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Ocasionally I play against treated LP, and it's difficult. In Jakarta, it's easy to buy a treated LP sheet. |
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Posted: 07/27/2007 at 10:54am |
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Even though I don't like playing players using Treated long pips, I also agree, if it doesn't break any current ITTF Rules, then that particular LP should stay. As i understand, the ones that are uniform throughout should be OK. Even if they are slightly frictionless. They haven't said they would ban Antispin rubber, its totally frictionless. |
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Posted: 07/27/2007 at 11:27am |
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I just go to ace hardware and buy krazy glue in a little bottle with a brush and brush it onto the pips. Again, it's not legal but if you want to make a sheet to practice against in your club but you don't want to drop $45, for a test sheet, it's a valid option.
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I feel the same about speed-glued inverted. ;-) *It took me 13 1/2 years to respond to this thread.
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I agree with you all that it is wrong to modify pips as it is against ITTF rules
Given that you made this post in 2007, did they not ban some frictionless long pips after 2007 ? I am not sure about the exact year 2010 ? 2012 ? So if there was "nothing wrong" with completely frictionless long pips why were some of them banned , based on some kind of measurement of friction ? I am not trying to question you or make fun of you . Just trying understand why this ban occurred and which country initiated this and how do players feel about this in general Some players I know tell me frictionless pips are unethical because the lack of friction makes the ball go crazy in random fashion sometimes but not all the time and so not fair to more athletic normal players (who use normal regular rubber reversed rubbers and work very hard to train using regular topspin ) who get confused & frustrated when older players use such tricky pips and win. Some of them also told me that this eventually caused lots of young players worldwide to quit the sport getting frustrated. I would like to hear your side of opinion Edited by DonjoSmit - 03/24/2021 at 3:51pm |
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I tried something similer. Ya, the result was so good  . The downside was that the rubber was wrinkly.
I tried the UV lamp instead
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