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shiningkeedoong
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Posted: 12/31/2007 at 10:51am |
Hey all,
just happened to come across this forum. I just started assembling the rubbers on my own (before I had them assembled when they were bought together with the blade). But any tips on how to make a clean cut?? It's so difficult for me ! the arrangement of the pips makes it almost impossible to cut it round. Oh, and another thing. As ghetto as this sounds, I was wondering if anyone ever cuts the handle of a shakehand to make it shorter (for a penhold). My friend recently gave me his shakehand blade, but since i'm a penhold player... cheers ~ |
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http://www.colestt.com/howto.php
watch the videos too :D and as for cutting ur handle.. im cutting up a handle. actually im making an entirely new one for v-grip. :D but it shouldn't be a bad thing, and i dont believe it would effect the blade face. |
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mafia
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I have seen in butterfly catalog picture of step by step on how to cut the rubber into Jpen blade. I am not sure if you have access to that catalog or not, you can use that as reference
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asr1990
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use scissors but make them wet when you cut them
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dalamchops
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i use a grinder ;p
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cole_ely
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The best two tips I can offer (thanks to Tom at Zeropong for these) is to keep your scissors wet (like with windex) and to take lots of tiny cuts with your scissors wide open, down in the fulcrum of the scissors where the power is. If you try to make long cuts and follow the curve of the blade you're screwed, although this seems like it should be the best way.
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shiningkeedoong
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i like that. thanks for the tip ~
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gurovski
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it is easier when you use grinder
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JimT
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You can also buy an inexpensive cutting board (there are even specialized sets for rubber cutting which can be easily rotated). I use an exacto-knife when I am doing that for myself and I want my paddle to look pretty - you simply make much more precise cuts with E-knife: the trick is not to try and cut thru the entire rubber at once, this is just impossible. Make a 1-2 inch long incision following the curve of the blade, then follow-thru by repeating that incision 3-4 times along the same groove. Then repeat that for the next 1-2 inches of the blade contour. Works really good - and don't forget to replace the E-knife's blade once in a while (not too often, I am sure).
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JimT
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Another thing - if you use scissors: try to make sure that they are sharp and short... my experience shows that the longer the scissors' blades are the worse they are for rubber cutting.
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varghesep
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I normally mark the rubber with a marker pen, and then cut it with a sharp knife before gluing. I can't cut it successfully after putting the rubber on the blade.
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JKC
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You make it look so easy Cole, doing it in the dark in your video is just showing off though.
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A brand new single edge razor blade and a plastic cutting board works beautifully and with reasonable pressure will cut the sponge, rubber and protective sheet in a single pass.
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When you use an X-Acto knife, I recommend holding the knife at a low angle (as horizontal as you can). This prevents ripping the sponge.
Plus definitely replace the blade every once in a while. And use soap water to lubricate it between cuts. |
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Isn't a C-pen handle is about an inch shorter than a shakehands blade handle? Would be best to saw it off with a fine-tooth saw,like a hacksaw,then smooth it with sandpaper. A bench grinder would take forever to remove that much wood. |
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tommyzai
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I am the self-proclaimed Xacto Knife King!
I am right handed. I start at the left lower corner and with even pressure and the slightly angled I go around the blade, pressing against the edge with the side of the knife. I stop every inch to let the rubber rebound, but I am careful NOT to lift the knife. Then I continue until I go around the entire perimeter. I do this about three-four times. Do NOT try to cut through on one go. Oh . . . I also found that removing the protective plastic cover helps get a cleaner cut for some reason. :-). Happy New Year! Happy Cutting! |
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JimT
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Lubrication certainly helps. Also, i just bought a pair of really short scissors for $5 at local CVS - if you moisten them with Windex, they cut the rubber really good. The only problem arises at the start, when you have to cut against the wings - they get in the way... maybe it is true, one should cut before putting the rubber on the blade but then there are two problems a) nothing to cut against, the sheet of rubber flaps helplessly in your hand with no support b) using marker pen is kinda too final.. once you marked the rubber you cannot erase that line, also markers are rather finicky and are liable to jerk a little bit when you draw lines on the rubber surface... |
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Don't cut directly into a cutting board, cut into a smooth piece of cardboard layed over the cutting board. I replace my blade after each combo (2 sheets and a glue sheet or two).
Jim's right about the angle but make sure you're not too far horizontal as to scrape the handle of the Xacto into the outer edge of the blade. |
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ppgear
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Another problem is putting the cut rubber onto the blade perfectly. It's hard to line up the edges. |
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mqr 116
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Similar to tommyzai's style, i use a sharp cutter and apply light pressure as i make a first continuous, slow pass at the entire circumference of the blade, but not exactly outlining the rubber on the edge of the blade; meaning, i give a little allowance for the rubber to protrude. Then i repeat the procedure with added pressure for about 3-4 times, until the residual rubber separates by itself. But i cut my inverted rubbers, especially built-in speed glue rubbers (like F1, Plasma 470, etc..), only after at least 6 hours, or overnight at best, from gluing on the blade. My experience with built-in speed glue rubbers is that they continuously shrink for a couple more days from cutting, and a small new rubber on a blade is such an unpleasant and disappointing sight. So i provide allowance in glue drying and cutting. When the shrinkage halts after a few days, i sandpaper the protruding rubber for full measure, and get quite a neatly fitted inverted.
I, however, don't exert the same patience when putting on new long pimples rubbers. They don't seem to shrink, so i cut them to exact fit just a few minutes after gluing them on.
Just my 2 cents worth experience and input.
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JRSDallas
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If you use a plastic cutting board and press the single edge blade firmly down you can get a perfect cut clean through on the first pass. Sometimes I even move the paddle and hold the razor blade still once the corner of the razor has sunk itself into the cutting board a bit.
Razor blades are far sharper than Exacto blades. Razor blades make cleaner cuts. |
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PingPangQiu
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very nicely cut
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JimT
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That is true but what do you use to hold them - are you just holding the naked blade in your fingers? |
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PingPangQiu
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razor blades? arent they short?
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Single-edge razor blades, 4.95 for pak of 100 at Home Depot. They have a thick,dull metal "strip" on the back edge so you dont cut yourself. |
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When refering to "razor blades" are you talking about the utility knife blades?
The knife 7homuz used in his video seems to work great. Anyone knows where to get such a knife?
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I've seen similar knifes at Wal-mart... < id="jajah">span.jajahWrapper { font-size:1em; color:#B11196; text-decoration:underline; } a.jajahLink { color:#000000; text-decoration:none; } span.jajahInLink:hover { background-color:#B11196; } |
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Jeff(ATTC)
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I use utility blades (trapezoid shaped). The rectangular blades feel thin and flex when I cut rubbers. Box cutter blades are thicker and don't feel like you're about to bend or break them in half.
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