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    Posted: 07/31/2008 at 12:47am

As the previous threads on the "best of brand series" seemed quite succesful, I'll continue onto the next brand: Yasaka.

What we're after here is opinions on what are the best rubbers/blades from this particular brand. It would be great to get as many opinions as possible about which you think are notable/special products from the particular brand, and a brief reason why. It's not about finding out which is THE most popular, but about finding a range of rubbers/blades from that manufacturer which are good and stand out a little.

This can be useful and interesting for anyone to find out a little about a brand, and can be particularly helpful to those that only have access to one or 2 brands, or have a personal preference to a particular brand.

I will also run it at the other major forums, and after a week or 2 I'll compile the list and summarise the comments. Then we can start on the next brand.

Brand of this thread: Yasaka
 
[Brands covered already: Butterfly, Joola]
 
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I think the Mark V series, especially the original and the 30deg glued would be the most popular by far, and probably among the most popular in the world!

Yasaka don't seem to be that big on blades compared to the likes of BTY & Stiga, although the Ma Lin Carbon and Gatien extra 3D seem very popular...

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Couple great new Yasaka rubbers as Yasaka X-tend HS, Yasaka Pryde.

Yasaka Ma Lin Extra Offensive (YEO) could be considered as great blade as well.
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Aha, I can contribute for this brand !!!Wink

Definitely Mark V !!!  For the variants,  Mark V 30 and Mark V AD (debatable on this one).

For Blade:  Definitely Extra and / or Extra 3D.  Mine is Extra 3D, never try original Extra.

I have also tried Ma Lin Carbon and Ma Lin Soft Carbon.  They are both OK and felt a bit similar to Donic Waldner Senso Carbon.
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I have not used Mark V in a long time, but I did for many years. It's a great rubber. I also play wiht Extra 3d. I tried some other blades, even made the switch a couple of times but I always come back to it. Even if I'm using a faster blade, I find I can hit faster shots when I go back to my old Extra 3d. Gatien Offensive and Offensive 40 are great blades too.

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the regular yasaka extra, extra offensive, and original T version(sp)
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Thanks guys! Does anyone know where their factories are? All their stuff I've seen looks of pretty high quality, perhaps it's all made in Japan?
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 With no doubt:
 
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i used Yasaka "Black Power" at some point of time..
 
Was among the fastest rubbers in those days. Later I think, Butterfly came into prominance.
 
Mark V definitely is a well balanced rubber. In India it's kind of a coaches favorite rubber to teach techniques.
 
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Originally posted by tdragon tdragon wrote:

Couple great new Yasaka rubbers as Yasaka X-tend HS, Yasaka Pryde.

 
does anyone know how soft/hard the sponge of Pryde is?
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I currently play with Extra 3D with Pryde on FH. 

I have not tried many tensor rubbers, but IMO Pryde is as good as Donic's tensors but with a little bit cheaper price tag.
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I personally would love to know more about Xtend and Pryde, there has been a bit of buzz about these, anyone with some experience, love to know why this should be best of brand. (Possibly this deserves another thread though)
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Originally posted by haggisv haggisv wrote:

Thanks guys! Does anyone know where their factories are? All their stuff I've seen looks of pretty high quality, perhaps it's all made in Japan?


Most of their blades are made in Sweden, probably where the Stiga stuff are made. Some rubbers are made in China, some in ESN, and most of them are in Japan.
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Mark V and the other similar Yasaka's have allways been the best rubber to use when learning table tennis, still is really in 1.8-2.0mm you wouldn't find a better rubber for learning correct European shot making :). Then you can step up to a more powerful rubber later on if you need to
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Originally posted by dalamchops dalamchops wrote:

Most of their blades are made in Sweden, probably where the Stiga stuff are made. Some rubbers are made in China, some in ESN, and most of them are in Japan.
 
Interesting, didn't know that about their blades!
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So which ones of the V-Stage and and the X-Tend series are the most popular? Are the popularity of their rubber likely to change after the glue ban? Obviously the Pryde is likely to become popular, with it's in-built speed glue effect, but what about the other?
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Yasaka blades have been made in Sweden since 1993.

The first blade they produced in Sweden was the Gatien Extra, which has been popular with loopers ever since.

V stage works well on the forehand of a Synergy blade.

Xtend is better than Mark V in my experience on a number of blades.


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I'd say the mark V rubbers by far and recently the YEO
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Originally posted by haggisv haggisv wrote:

So which ones of the V-Stage and and the X-Tend series are the most popular? Are the popularity of their rubber likely to change after the glue ban? Obviously the Pryde is likely to become popular, with it's in-built speed glue effect, but what about the other?



From conversations here in the forum, I would guess the X-Tend is more popular, the V-Stage is hardly ever mentioned and, when that happens, it is mostly in the form "how does V-Stage perform"? Personally I use V-Stage on my backhand without glue, as a less spinny with a bit less speed rubber than the EGP I am using on my forehand, but with better control and consistency. It is an indeed rare occasion playing against another person with V-Stage, although a few times my opponent had X-Tend. Price also may be a factor in this decision, the V-Stage consistently being priced above $40 and never on sale, where the X-Tend costs $32, and less if on sale. In some other thread, Geoff was mentioning that the V-Stage's 42 degrees of hardness are always consistent through very careful quality control, which may be the reason Yasaka is always keeping the price high and probably the profit margin low, since there is never a sale on this product.
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Originally posted by haggisv haggisv wrote:

Thanks guys! Does anyone know where their factories are? All their stuff I've seen looks of pretty high quality, perhaps it's all made in Japan?
 
Most, if not all the Yasaka blades are made in Sweden.
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Yasaka is a weird brand in terms of blade and rubber making.

The New-Era rubbers for example, are made in China. The Gatien blades are made in Sweden. Mark V is made in Japan. So their products are made everywhere actually.

Their prices are not crazy like butterfly which is good. i think the YEO is going to become a classic.

The Mark V is already a classic.
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THat makes sense that new era is made in China, as eacheng.net just got all those rubbers in~
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IMHO, the best Yasaka rubber would be the Mark V GPS and the best blade would be the YEO. Maxwood is also a good blade but it's a little bit heavy.
 
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my first penhold blade was Yasaka Gatien Extra 3D cpen,
 
and because i loved it so much, I bought one for shakehand too..
 
i also purchased YEO, felt so good...
 
then my first yasaka rubber was v-stage....
 
then went to mark v, mark v xs, mark v m2, fusion, new-era...
 
 
if i didn't switch to shakehand, i would probably kept playing YEO..
 
and i'm always tempted to try v-stage again...
 
 
YEO with V-stage... lovely combination :D
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Originally posted by T h e N A M T h e N A M wrote:

my first penhold blade was Yasaka Gatien Extra 3D cpen,
 
and because i loved it so much, I bought one for shakehand too..
 
i also purchased YEO, felt so good...
 
then my first yasaka rubber was v-stage....
 
then went to mark v, mark v xs, mark v m2, fusion, new-era...
 
 
if i didn't switch to shakehand, i would probably kept playing YEO..
 
and i'm always tempted to try v-stage again...
 
 
YEO with V-stage... lovely combination :D
 
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Why didn't you get the YEO FL/ST.
 
Agreed with you. It's really a good blade with good feel.
 
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i love korbel on shakehand, but not so much on cpen..

i love yeo on cpen, but not so much on shakehand...
 
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Thanks for all the replies!

Anyone else have any further comments on Yasaka blades or rubbers, or any facts about the manufacturer, before I summarise this and move onto the next brand? Cheers!
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